affective uninitiated in history -- that we want to do -- that allows it to create a national argument and the titans should the states. j.d. vance is too strong for ohio. and you define that extreme this will affect individual voters health, wealth and safety. you really talk about creating a referendum effect which is, as a pro, the key to disrupting the midterm. -- but the attack is more potent. >> cornell, quick question on florida and north carolina, democrats val demings, and sherry bleeds ali, black women running -- on a lot of the platforms -- are you surprised to see the campaigns see two women of color running? or is that just the way it has to be done? >> the, ablaze surprise.