than that, as we know. crime is much more complex and what these prosecutors these judges do, is only one piece of the very, as we said, systemic system. so i don't think recalls are a good idea. >> and we never recall judge who punish too lenient lee we only, sorry, we never recal judges who punished to charsley, only to lenient lee. and this is part of the crisis of mass incarceration. so no, i don't think there should be recalls. i don't think there used well, and i think they contribute to more years in prison and t entrenching ourselves in the - crisis >> has this later foundation where if you don't like what a judge is doing, you can simply put that judge on the ballot and put it to the voters because it seems like this i where it is going. we hear more about this -- all of this incident in th wake of judge persky >> yeah. we know that more voting doesn't necessarily mean mor democracy. it doesn't mean more democrati
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