i want to bring up, joy, to us facebook is a lot of things. it's a way to read the news and get your ivermectin conspiracy and things to us but throughout the world, facebook is commerce. facebook is selling things and having your own small business. in india, there are phones that were bricked yesterday like not usable because they're so tied up in the facebook ecosystem because they were given away by facebook to communities over the last five to ten years there. the idea of extracting facebook from the internet at this point, you are -- it might bleed out. there is a lot going on with now facebook operates with communities all throughout the world and it's really banking. it's their business for a lot of people. >> it's almost too big to make it fail. kate, ben, thank you both very much. still ahead on "reidout" the