and i thought that he could capture effortlessly a lot of the qualities that bayard had naturally. you didn't see the effort of him being charismatic. you don't see the effort of him leading. he just was a leader. >> right. and in fact, after i watched the movie, i texted colman, i said, he was so good i forgot i was watching him. i thought i was watching bayard rustin. so as i mentioned in the intro george, this is the first feature film of higher ground productions, the production company, former president barack obama and michelle obama. what role did they play and helping to get this film made? >> they were very supportive. and at one point, one side finished filming and i had my rough cut, i got notes, they were good notes, they were smart notes. they've just been very nurturing in support of the entire time. >> as you well know, i'm not