includes stuff like him giving a sexually transmitted disease to a young, underage girl without her knowledge. and how do we know? because these women ended up being diagnosed with an std. and that definitely is a theory and kind of a barb in the prosecution's case right now. >> before i have to let you know what about the possible strategy for the defense? do you think r. kelly might take the stand? >> no. we saw he did that interview and i apologize i'm forgetting her -- >> where she kept saying robert, robert, robert -- >> and he did not want to listen. we've seen he can't even compose himself or handle himself in that type of interview. there's no way as a defense attorney you put somebody like that on the stand. there's no guarantees he'll be able to come across in a way that a jury would like. he's already got a lot of that and i was definitely as a criminal defense attorney i