>> joyce, did you see this week when you heard chairman schiff going back and forth with joe maguire, did it change the way the democrats are approaches this? >> i think democrats do have a new approach. part of it is the notion that this is formally impeachment proceedings. as a prosecutor i had the "kiss rule" which means keep it simple stupid. those allegations were incredibly complicated for lay people to follow. they have a simple narrative, a ump who sought favors inappropriately, and apparently we have a massive cover-up, in an effort to seal not just the ukrainian incidents, but others. democrats need to keep if simp, and keep moving forward. >> kiss and tell, if you would,