>> i think it's going to demonstrate how fractured the country is. mader has more of a juggling act. i feel like his past history with trump might come into play. obviously they know each other very well from their time in new york and brawling here in new york. i worry if he's going to be calm and collected like schiff. i feel like this is going to be more academic. i'm worried the public outside of the beltway, we have to keep the public focused on the facts. i don't know if the other side might be winning in messaging. >> this is something of a redemtive moment for jerry nadler, the pressure is on, suffice to say when it comes to chairman nadler. how is that weighing on him, that personal history, how has what happens happened here over