technical protocols, and we have pretty strict ones. every time you meet the president, you get tested. i have had a lot of tests in my nose over the last several months. that's an important -- has long been an important part of testing protocols. including when you travel with the president. we always wear masks when we're in meetings and when we're with the president. if the cdc changes their guidance, we could certainly consider changing ours, as well. but at this point, it hasn't changed. >> it has been a long year, and i know a long week. white house press secretary jen psaki, we really appreciate you being here today as we wind down 2021, and we hope to speak to you again soon. happy holidays. >> absolutely. look forward to it. you too, jonathan. coming up on "morning joe," with a little over a week left in his tenure, bill de blasio is taking new york city's fight with the pandemic straight through his final days in office. he'll join the conversation. "morning joe" is a few minutes away. are gentle on your skin,