extraordinarily thankful for what was announced yesterday including the pause of the nord stream 2 pipeline project that's really been seen as critical here. in kyiv, i was speaking to one former zelenskyy adviser telling me he understands the phased approach that the west is taking to all of this. he says that too much too soon could be dangerous, saying, quote, let me pull up the quote here, you don't want to swiftly destroy a nuclear power. it will lead to chaos. slowly suffocate is the right tactic. that gives you a sense of the mood here in kyiv, hallie. >> it's an interesting point, erin, normally, i see you it's nighttime in kyiv. it's earlier in the day. you've been talking to people out there, can you give a sense of not only ukrainian officials but the people that you're talking to? >> reporter: you know, it's interesting up until that speech