kerr do, which the united states has provided ukrainians. i think it is sort of a steady, drip, drip, drip, of military provisions which is exactly what you would expect somebody in his position to ask for. >> and michael, give us your sense, to the much-gaetzed comments from president biden over weekend, suggesting that vladimir putin shouldn't remain in power. the white house sort of immediately walked it back. have you heard any reaction from on the ground in ukraine about the remarks in. >> no, i mean, honestly, jonathan, the ukrainians think it is much ado about nothing. everyone i queried said, of course, who doesn't think vladimir putin shouldn't remain in power? i think what happened is, as was very apparent at least to my ears when i heard president biden make those remarks, it was an off-the-script, extemporaneous community. to my mind, did i think this president, an old cold warrior, an old transatlanticist believe putin shouldn't remain in power