if this is a macro problem with micro and everyday realities that are going to face all of us on the other side. the macro problem is that our democracy isn't working as well as we need it to. democracy's not going to be perfect, but the fact that republicans and democrats in many districts are more concerned with primary fights than with getting things done, they're more concerned with keeping their job than protecting our democracy, speaks to a really big problem. i know that's obvious, but this is -- if we can't count on people to have an honest discussion, you're correct, we cannot count on them to protect us and our democracy when we need it most. >> so now what? david jolly? >> that's a very important question, yasmin. i would say, look, the republic held on january 6th and january 20th, and democracy won.