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MSNBCW All In With Chris Hayes November 12, 2016

Gold star father on what he needs to see from a Trump Presidency. When all in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. At this very hour protests are happening across the country for the Third Straight night. Over the election of donald trump as president of the United States. Well be monitoring the scene throughout the hour. After adopting a relatively concilia story tone trump last night abandoned that posture to assail the protesters tweeting, just had a very open and successful president ial election. Now professional protesters incited by the media are protesting. Very unfair. This is the sort of thing we saw a lot during the campaign, but coming from the president elect of the United States it was a remarkably ominous sentiment. Colleagues in media and activism please know this is a warning shot, tweeting new yorkers jelani cobb. He was suggesting that the tens of thousands that youve been seeing right now live out on the streets expressing their First Amendment right to free speech and peaceful assembly, theyre quote professional protesters that are part of a plot and that their presence can be blamed on the media. No less than the man who will soon be the most powerful person in the world assailing both the pregs of freedom of assembly and that constitutionally protected activity. The tweets at the top of the feed for all to see until this morning when he followed up with this, love the fact that the small groups of protesters last night have passion for our great country. We will all come together and be proud. Joining me now Filmmaker Michael Moore whose new film is Michael Moore in trumpland. Youve been monitoring the protests. Theyve been quite organic. I was in a cab going to a documentary meeting. All the traffic stopped, whats going on . Theres a protest out there. Let me out. I just joined it. Thats literally, no memo has gone out to anybody. This is just organically happening and happening all across the country, not just in the big city. Its happening in midsized cities, in nashville and milwaukee last night and i just got photographs from a town that i live in, a small town, of 14,000 people. This was just an hour or so ago. And theyve already taken to the streets in Traverse City, michigan. If its happening in Traverse City michigan, you know its going on everywhere. I encourage everybody who is listening to tweet your photos, put them on facebook, send them to msnbc. Use social media. This is a powerful moment. As soon as chris and i are done talking, turn the tv off, hit record, then turn it off and go out. And if its not happening in your neighborhood, make it happen. Call up some friends or neighbors. This will go on all night tonight. Weve seen a reinvigoration in street protests with the obama administration. The black lives matter movement, some of the direct action thats been done on the environmental front particularly the dapl and Dakota Access pipeline where theres been a standoff, an incredibly brave showing of nonviolent force. Where do you see that going . Because it seems to me this is an expression of certain segments of society saying we do not approve of the rhetoric youve used or the plans that are laid out and we dont approve of our fellow citizens is being targeted. How does that build power, to your mind . First of all, this is going to grow larger than anything that weve seen in recent memory. Its going to grow from last night to tonight, then to tomorrow night and the next night. So phase one right now is just people get up out of the chair, go into the street. Be peaceful but be heard. This is ive i predict this will be a very large thing. Its going to lead to, on inauguration day, over a Million People in washington, d. C. Theres already a huge call out, some people are calling it the million woman march or if youre a guy, you can say million woman plus one. But its going to be massive. Its going to be massive. Were going to have to be very active to stop these Supreme Court nominations, to stop to do what we need to do to take over the Democratic Party and put it in the hands of the people who are the Democratic Party, the progressives, the people that are the party. That already started today with Keith Ellison. Well talk about that. You have this todo list here. But before i get to that, one of the things that i think theres this fasten aing political argument being had among all different parts of the ideological spectrum, theres conservatives paleo tns, theres the center progressives, the left, the liberals. It seems to me the way this has been described is resisting or opposing trump and also reaching out to some segment that feels left behind, particularly a subsection of his voters, particularly a subsection of his White Working Class voters. How do you see those two things intention or parallel . I think, first of all, the White Working Class that mistakenly voted for him and theyre going to find out very soon just what an awful decision that was that they made. Theyre angry, they have a right to be angry, but they used him as a means for their revenge against the system. We wont be able to convince them right now. Theyre going to have to find out hes going to make their lives even worse as a result of electing him. Our job right now really is to just not do a whole lot of thinking, dont i get nervous when someone says that. I really do. You dont you know this. You dont want to overthink things, right . You must have dated at some point in your life. Dont overthink things, chris. You have to be spontaneous. You have to go, yeah, thats right. Ive sat here for the last two or three days depressed, upset, how did this happen . How is it that the person who got the most votes is not the president of the United States . I can tell you the Electoral College of the United States. I can explain it to you. We cant change that by next tuesday. But this must not pass. We cant keep this going. Im just encouraging people right now, its okay to operate on your raw energy and emotion because our voices must be her. Look at trumps tweet you just showed. Hes talking about just had a great president ial election and now these protesters are out here. Very unfair. Very unfair. You know that hes rattled already . I mean, this should be the happiest week of his life and hes up, oh its a remarkable thing. People all across the ideological spectrum were taken aback by the tweet all protesters be honored by this that already the thinskinned donald trump. Imagine what happens when the crowds double tonight and triple tomorrow night. Because thats whats going to happen. What about people who say what you are advocating will only raise the temperature and heighten the country that is a polarized and frankly dangerous place . No. You dont think the countrys in a dangerous place . Its only dangerous because a sociopath who is a racist and misogynist and promoted an agenda of misogyny, thats how he built his core base, then he manipulated the final 20 who are not racist but are just angry at the system and he knew that, and so he says, im getting rid of nafta for you, and im going to stop those cars being made in mexico and all this and it made it sound like music to their ears. So they were deceived by him. You must have trump voters in your life. I dont have them in my personal life. Theyve all been removed. No, seriously, everybody who is white has trump voters in their extended family. Thanksgiving is coming up. Okay, so well deal with that. But, but, but i think i live in michigan, that city you just showed. Traverse city. Traverse city. The city itself just went 59 for hillary. For bernie they went 70 in the primary, but the county we live in just voted for trump. For trump, yeah. And the counties around us that went for obama. Also went for trump. Went for trump. So thats a problem. And weve got to reach out to them when its appropriate. But right now, let me tell you something, the trump machine is already way down the field. Theyre already planning these nominations, these positions theyre going to fill. The first obamacare repeal, financial deregulation. Paul ryan, you talked about i want to get to this todo list next. But i got to say this because you mentioned this, the sort of bait and switch. Paul ryan is floating medicare privatization. Think about this for a moment. That is a position opposed by both major party candidates, opposed by trump and Hillary Clinton voted for by no one and hes talking about it as if its a thing. Those first hundred days . How about the first ten days . Capitol hill will look like a Marx Brothers moving where theyll be whipping, who has got a bill, zing. Who has a bill . Zing. All those in favor, ding. And liberals will be like, whoa, wait a minute. Wait, thats not fair. You know . Yeah. Get the game face on, everybody now. Because they are deadly serious about this. And it will be years before we undo the damage of their first ten days. So quickly, remember clinton won the popular vote which you mentioned is number five on your list. Never forget that. There are four more. Take over the Democratic Party. Yes, immediately. Remove them all. Fire pundits who wont acknowledge reality. I see the desk is mostly empty here tonight. Thank you, chris. Thank you for sparing me your purge. Dems in congress who wont fight must go. Thats what the tea party did. Dont forget. It wasnt go after democrats. It did in terms of it showed up at the town hall. But first thing they did was primary republicans. At the spring break for congress, this coming spring, we are town halling these democrats and if they are not standing in front of trump and blocking his nominations to the Supreme Court, if they are not committed to a filibuster, were going to put them on notice that were going to primary them in two years and bring candidates that are going to win. I personally am going to be part of that process to make that happen. Stop saying youre stunned. Well, white people say theyre stunned because, you know, i didnt see this coming. If youre black or hispanic, you know, if youre gay, if youve suffered under the oppressiveness of this system, you are not surprised by donald trump from day one. And when you heard him say on day one that mexicans were rapists and murderers, you knewite right then that there was trouble and there would be hell to pay. The train was coming. The train was coming. Weve got video of atlanta where people are assembling peacefully for protests to express their opposition to the president elect of the United States donald j. Trump. Michael moore, thank you for being with me. Thank you, chris. You know, come on out, too, this weekend. I mean, i know we have to be a journalist and all that, but youre also a citizen of this country. Im a citizen. And in a democracy, that means youre an activist. Up next, the great Rachel Maddow joins me to talk about the massive conflicts in Donald Trumps Transition Team as the Trump Presidency approaches. Thats after the break. Later my exclusive interview with gold star father khizr khan on the trump election. Coaching means making tough choices. 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On top of that theres the fact that trumps kids are supposed to be taking over the Family Business in a socalled blind trust, although its not going to be. Set up to avoid conflicts of interest with the white house. According to a Trump Organization spokesperson, we are in the process of vetting various structures with the dwoel of immediate transfer of management of the Trump Organization its portfolio businesses to donald jr. Ivanka and eric trump along with a team of highly skilled executives. I wanted to talk to you because we get so much coverage of the Clinton Foundation which was the story went essentially a slush fund whereby people would donate to curry favor with the secretary of state or the future president of the United States. Were now having a situation in which this business enterprise, which has no public disclose yurs because its privately held, run by the children of the sitting president , they will choose the people that staff the government like for instance the irs. Yeah. Theyre in that incredibly active, you know, kinetic role in terms of deciding who is going to be in the government. Also once the transition is over, even if he doesnt give them jobs in the government, the plan is theyll be running, continuing to run his Family Business empire. The whole idea of a blind trust is that the president is supposed to literally be unable to act using government policy in order to enrich himself or enrich herself because the trust is blind. The president doesnt know what investments he or she has, doesnt know whether or not something that hes doing in the u. S. Government will enrich him. In this case its not like people think he wont speak to his children and hell be in a position to advice them, to change things about the companys plans in order to account for information that highway has specifically because hes president and theres no way that any of us will ever know that. It is a brick wall of a conflict of interest even after this transition. And just to play this out a little bit more, right, a company thats seeking regulatory favors from the Trump Administration could offer ivanka a discount equity stake for the trump portfolio and theres no disclosure i mean, thats an entirely feasible thing that could happen in the United States starting january 20th. And how would we know . How would we know when that is happening . We have no transparency here other than what the president will choose to disclose and i cant imagine hes going to disclose anything if hes calling this a blind trust, for example. The thing that is stunning to me about this is that this evolves directly from his refusal to release his tax returns. Which he got away with. He got away with it. Everybody said that wasnt a law. Thats just a norm in our politics. And i guess that norm is broken now. I can see why you wouldnt want to disclose his tax returns. Its an invasion of his financial privacy and all that stuff. But then once your president , are you still not going to release your tax returns . Will you still not tell us about your financial entanglements . Were worried that youre going to use the power of the United States to enrich yourself and in fact on day one they already did. Because on his first dotgov web presence, hes listing his trump properties. Hes listing literally the name of his wifes qvc Shopping Channel jewelry line on his dotgov website. Theyre already using the resources of the government to enrich themselves while still not disclosing any of their other financial ties. Its mind boggling. This segues into the role of the media in all this. Because this is going to require a level of sustained not just reporting but pressure, frankly, for the public to know the things they have a right to know. In some ways they tried to get the tax returns, but they didnt. What do you how are you conceiving of the role of a free and independent press as walks into this totally uncharted territory . Yeah. I mean, part of the thing that im preoccupied by and that i think a lot of people are preoccupied by is his overt threats to press freedom. We see that in a personal way in a way that he turned it into one of the

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