What you promised to do in the first place. Stay out of stupid wars and Start Building this country instead of spending morning tonight yelling schoolyard trash talk at the other kids on the playground. Thats hardball right now. Thanks for being with us. All in with chris hayes starts right now. Tonight on all in. Right now we have so many Nuclear Weapons, i want them in perfect condition, perfect shape. The president threatens a free press. Its disgusting that the press is able to write what they want to write. Reports of an absolute meltdown in the white house. Tonight the Nuclear Dangers with the president on the edge. My attitude is the one that matters. And what to make of his threats to challenge the license of nbc news. Then articles of impeachment against donald j. Trump. The Billionaire Donor who wants democrats to pledge they will impeach the president. And an nbc Exclusive Entire View with the latest weinstein accuser to come forward. He said i have contracts for my next three films here and i will sign them today but i want you to have a threesome with me an my assistant. All in starts right now. Good evening new york. Im unstable, losing a step and unraveling, words used by the president s confidant to describe his state of mind, echoing the grave concerns of chairman bob corker, that the president s temperament and current disposition could pose a threat to National Security. The white house reached a new level of crisis as the president fumes and lashes out over the stall with the latest agenda and preferred candidates embarrassing loss in the senate primary. He vented to keith shiller, who
recently left the administration telling him, i hate everyone in the white house. There are a few exceptions but i hate them. A white house official denies this. Things have gotten so bad that according to one source, steve bannon told people he thinks trump has only a 30 chance of making it the full term. National Security Leaders he wanted what amounts to a nearly tenfold increase in the u. S. Nuclear arsenal during a meeting over the summer. Thats according to three officials in the room. The president s comments came in response to a Briefing Slide he was shown charting the steady reduction of Nuclear Weapons in the u. S. Since the 1960s. According to nbc news, that was the same pentagon meeting that prompted secretary of Skate Tillerson to called the president moron. The president today disputed nbcs reporting. That was just fake news by nbc which gives a lot of fake
interview with the the New York Times earlier this week. I dont think he understands that the messages that he sends out, especially when you take into account theyre being received in other languages around the world yeah. What that does. I know hes hurt, in several instances hes hurt us as it relates to negotiations that were under way by tweeting things out. Corker may have been referring to an incident two ekes ago when tillerson announced that the u. S. Is in direct conversation with north korea over its nuclear career. Drawing a rebuke from the president saying i told tillerson hes wasting his trying to negotiate with rocketman. Save your energy. Its not clear thats an approach the president supports. Vii have a little bit differt attitude on north korea than
other people might have. Your secretary . And i listen to everybody. But ultimately my attitude is the one that matters isnt it . Thats the way it works. Thats the way the system is. But i think i might have a somewhat different attitude and a different way than other people. I think perhaps i feel stronger and tougher on that subject than other people. Ben rhodes serves as the Deputy National securitied a vuzer to former president barack obama. That last line, tougher strong Nuclear Weapons. What do you make of the reporting that were getting and the president s statements . Well, first of all, if you have to go around telling everybody how tough you are, youre probably not. I think that this is an incredibly dangerous moment. We already have a Nuclear Crisis on the Korean Peninsula. We have the threat of trump initiating a second Nuclear Crisis by pulling out of the iran deal. And frankly, he seems to approach issues of nuclear
weapons the same way he approaches tweeting about fake news or the nfl. But the transconsequencconseque more severe. And we should all be concerned in which direction hes going to lead us in the Korean Peninsula and iran. As someone who worked in the white house and dealt with the iran deal and also had to deal with north korea, i wonder what are the conversations like at the highest levels of the white house when youre talking about Nuclear Weapons . Its something that must hang over and weigh on everyone that is involved in Making Decisions in the white house. Well, chris, first of all, the entire Post War Architecture that was built after world war ii, essentially exists to prevent the use of Nuclear Weapons. And the United States at the center of that Architecture Works to prevent both the spread and use of Nuclear Weapons. So everything that youre doing any day has as a backdrop the desire to prevent that
catastrophic outcome. With respect to iran, that meant looking at what the options were, a diplomatic agreement like the one we reached to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Knowing that absent diplomatic agreement the options youre left with is a war with iran or iran obtaining the nuclear weapon. The entire time we were in office we were dealing with a north korean regime that had the nuclear capability. Mindful of that we worked to isolate and pressure north korea but were very careful about the types of bluster and threats that hes engaged in that could risk a conflict that could immediately get Out Of Control and prove catastrophic. So these are things that you have to be very careful in addressing. And frankly speak about as Senator Corker said in very careful language. Because around the world people listen very closely to every word the president of the united
states says as relates to the Nuclear Weapons and theyre making their decision based on what the u. S. President is saying there. Theres an announce thamt the president will decertify the iran agreement this week. And hes doing this despite the fact that people in his own government and republicans in his own party say theyre abiding by the toerms of the deal. What do you make of that . Its completely utterly dishonest. Its a lie. Iran is complying with the deal. The Trump Administration certified that twice. Jim mattis said theyre complying with the deal. General dunford said theyre complying with the deal. He likes to listen to generals but now hes ignoring them. Hes going against the allies and the views of his own government. Iran is complying. Theyre rolled back theirNuclear Program. Second hes punting the issue to congress who has to make a decision about what to do. If he wanted to kill the iran deal he could do it himself by not waving the sanctions relief that we give to iranians. Hes punting this to congress and leaving them with nothing but bad actions. If Congress Passing new sanctions yoerp wont go along with it, china wont. Well be isolated and left with a choice as to whether or not to sanction europe and china and russia, there by causing great calamity in the Global Economy and further isolating us and not the iranians. And the worst case nair jo is iran says were violating the deal and restart their Nuclear Program and were left with war or nuclear iran. And then we also have north korea and iran. A double the amount of the Nuclear Crises the presidecount faces. Thank you. Jennifer ruben, A Vocal Trump critic. Jennifer, i want to ask you about the trump deal. But first, sam, heres the irony were peril and paradox. At one point hes describing the president as weak. Today he threatened this network with rescinding its Broadcasting License which he cant do. These are impotent threats by the president. At the im time hes currently navigating two different areas of Nuclear Diplomacy in which he is the president of the United States. Yeah. Its a strange paradox. The guy is the president. And you know the real question to me about all of what were hearing about the leaks that you hear from gabe shermans piece and bob corker just coming out and saying these thing thats not a leak. Thats on the record. Why . Obviously somebody is trying to send the public a message and
the question is, you know, why do we know about what he was talking about in july now. This why were there officials three people in that room. Three people in this room willing to tell the story about the president. You think theyre sending a message. People are concerned and want the public no know whats going on. I cant imagine they think that this is going to change the president s behavior. I think the idea is that we need to change the behavior of the people around the president. Do you agree with that . Yeah, i do. The Washington Post is reporting tonight that one reason that trump is going forth with this decertification strategy, which is not exactly wrecking the jcpoa is that he quote threw a fit when he was asked to and told to certify the deal the last time. Theyre scrambling around looking for a mechl nichl, not to em bolden us, not to help our allies but to satisfy a
person who has become unhinged. A screaming toddler. So now were taking action in the International Realm that could damage our relationships with europe, that could em bolden iran, isolate the United States why . Because the president of the United States has a temp every tantrum. I think this is what weve come to and what is so dangerous. Were making nuclear diplomatic policy because of a desire to avoid a fit of people from the president who doesnt like the fact that he had to certify the deal. And theres a sense i mean to get back to your warning idea, this is interesting, one of the things in vanity fair is bannon telling trump that he thinks that hell you know, steve bannon told trump the risk to his president was impeachment but the 25th amendment. When bannon mentioned the 25th amendment, trump says, whats that. Whats interesting about that is ben is stoking the idea that you
dont have anyone loyal around you, youre being circled and enclosed and all of this reporting suggesting that hes more volatile. When bannon left he says hes going to be fight frg the president on the outside. Im not convinced that thats what bannons agenda is. Im more convinced that bannon is using the president on the outside and unbeknownst that hes fighting for bannons agenda which is very different than any of the other players involved here. Hes more interested in chaos. He doesnt care which way it goes as long as its chaotic. So i dont know who those three officials are, i have no way of knowing. But if theyre in the room as the president of the United States is asking about our nukes and theyre going out and telling reporters about it, they want, not necessarily me, but us as a society to understand something that they think its important for us to understand. That is disturbing in a lot of different ways. Jennifer to play devils advocate for a moment, there have been reports of this a lot. Theres reports that the president is seething, brooding. Do you feel like theres a qualitative difference here, to sams point, theres a signal thats trying to be sent, some smoke signal coming it of the white house about the stability of the president of the United States which when you get to when you read the gabe sherman piece, theres a lot of euphemisms being used about the fitness of the man. I think there is a quality of difference. Gabe shermans piece if accurate and i have no reason to doubt it. Hes a strong reporter is that he has gotten worse. Its unraveling. This is deterioration of the president s mood and ability to function in the job. I do think first of all his behavior is worsening and secondly i think the concern of people around him is certainly worsening and thats why you have people in the military who you could never imagine in any
other circumstances leaving what is called the tank where these very high level discussions take place and going to the media with their concerns about the president. And the questions that i have are fist where are the rest of the republicans other than corker. Telling him just to make nice with the president. And secondly, where is the Vice President of the United States. He has a constitutional obligation to the country. He shouldnt be running around to football stadiums making political gestures. He needs to get in there and satisfy himself that the president is incapacitated or kpas Ta Kpas Tated and proceed from there. The president just tweeting network news as become so partisan distorted and faked that licenses should be challenged. That at 8 09. Mr. President if you are watching right now, thats not
the way it works. Many thanks to you both. Next colonel Lawrence Wilkerson on the dangers of having a president described as unstable and unraveling in charge of Nuclear Weapons. That in two minutes. With maximum strength Alka Seltzer Plus liquid gels. Hey . I paused it. Bam, family time. So how is everyone . Find your awesome with xfinity xfi and change the way you wifi. Do you know Donald Trumps position on Nuclear Weapons . No . Youre not alone. Try to decipher this. It is an absolute last stance. And you know, i use the word unpredictable. You want to be unpredictable. I would be a very slow trigger. Can you tell the middle east were not using Nuclear Weapons. I would never say that. Not going to take my cards off of the table. How about in europe. Im not going to take it off of the table. You might use it in europe . No, i dont think so. Japan has a big problem. Maybe they would be better off if they defend themselves from north korea. With nukes . Including with nukes, yes. I think that once the nuclear
alternative happens, its over. At the same time i have to be prepared. I cant take anything off of the table. Here to discuss the actions that the Top Republican put us on this path to colin paul. Colonel, do you feel confident that the structures in place are holding as this president navigates both north korea and now moves to decertify the iran deal . I certainly hope they are, chris, because both moves are extremely dangerous and his recent comments on Nuclear Weapons, which youve highlighted, are extremely disturbing to me. Because when president george w. Bush, whom i served, as you know, withdrew from the antiballistic missile treaty, Colonel Powell had to rush off to berlin and london and ultimately moscow and placate all of those people who thought that things were turning really
dangerous. The result of that was the moscow treaty and a really huge slash in both the soviet union then russias stockpile and our stockpile. So the trend was positive. The trend was downward. To hear a president talking about not only modernization and security and all of the things that we talk about all of the time, but actually increasing the number of Nuclear Weapons is very disturbing, especially in light of the fact that youre looking at a china that might be trying to establish a second strike capability and then russia who might be looking at us, okay, all bets are off, lets go after our Nuclear Stockpile too. Very dangerous. What would the consequences be for the world if the president moves to decertify and congress pulls us out of the deal or stops the iran deal. What do you see as the consequences of that action . We become as Angela Merkel hinted at earlier this year, even more trustworthy. The second consequence is all of the talks that are going on now, secret or otherwise with north korea or might go on will have a huge impediment because north korea will look at that and other things that think that were totally untrust wore think. I can walk you through a likely scenario for ultimate war in the region with iran and i think that would be a disaster, as general anthony zin any said, would make iraq a disaster there from 2003 on pale in comparison. Iran is much bigger, 70 million plus, 51 are persian. And we would turn all of those young people in iran, which is probably half of the population, we would turn them immediately against the United States. But thats the outcome of things like what john bolton and other conservatives want, is war. As someone who has operated
some of the highest levels of the American Government and i