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MSNBCW All In With Chris Hayes October 10, 2018

Respected. Just how respected is america in the world . As nikki said, the world is really respecting the United States again. And all in starts right now. Good evening from new york, im chris hayes, we are now 28 days from the midterms and republicans and trump tv have their message. They are not running on tax cuts or health care or really anything theyve done. All theyve had unified control of government. What they are running on is that they are the last line of defense against you. The angry mob. Otherwise known as the majority of the country that disagrees with republicans. The radical democrats have turned into an angry mob. The far left mob is not letting up. They have encouraged mob rule. Anyone whos a trump supporter, were all targets of this. There is only one party that has normalized violence in america in the last two years and its not the republicans. That is mob rule. With this mob rule mob rule about a mob rule. Basically mob rule, no law and order. Do you want mob rule . Yeah, the average citizen, if youre on the right, should be concerned in danger. How do you keep the base fired up when youve just won again, play it like youre the victim and constantly under attack. Its essentially the Mission Statement where Tucker Karlson spends each and every night with warnings of an out of control violent left. Look at that, its kind of his thing. Dont be mistaken its because they see this strategy as a political winner in the wake of the kavanaugh protest. Take this scene as reported by the Washington Post when thousands of furious, screaming protesters marched towards the capital as Brett Kavanaugh was confirmed. They were not alarmed, but elated. There has been some evidence that the kavanaugh fight energized the gop base, at least in the short term. But theres also evidence that when people get really, really mad at you, youre probably losing. Remember back in 2009, spurred by lies about obamacare death panels, pulling the plug on grandma, the tea party confronted even yelled at, screamed at democratic lawmakers. This was before the right suddenly became so concerned about mob rule. Heres the thing, in the subsequent Midterm Election democrats lost 63 seats on their way to losing the house. All that right wing anger had consequences and it looks, at least at this point, like this anger just might as well. According to a new poll democrats now have a 13 point edge in the generic house ballot, 54 to 41. Republicans seem to think that their last best hope to limit the damage is to convince their base that if they dont vote they will find themselves at the mercy of an angry mob of pitchfork wielding liberals. Joining me now congresswoman maxine waters, target of trump tv and the president this summer when he encouraged supporters to push back on the Trump Administration officials in public. Youve this is mob rule, being assaulted in the words of mitch mcconnell. What do you think about that . Well, i think its absolutely ridiculous. Its not believable. As a matter of fact, this country was built on peaceful protest. And those of us who were part of the civil rights movement, who understood the power of protest taught by dr. Martin luther king and others know that we cannot allow donald trump and anybody else to take protests away from us and to deem it to be violent and to try and make us look like a mob. It is because of peaceful protests, not only in the civil rights movement, but the Labor Movement was able to get better wages, able to get better working conditions, able to get better way, everything because they learned to march and protest. And they still do it today. We know that protest is guaranteed to a democratic society. We know that this is guaranteed to us by the constitution. Theyre trying to change the description of protest and call it a mob. Well, this president is the poster boy for what a mob protester looks like. He is matter of fact hes the one who has been violent in his speech. Hes the one in his rallies have said things like this, id like to punch him in the face. Trump said that at one of his rallies, he said knock the crap out of them, would you, and seriously, okay, just knock the hell i mean, i promise i will pay the legal fees. Thats the kind of talk that he has done. Thats violent talk. With dont have that kind of talk that has come from the women who are protesting. As a matter of fact, this country is past due for the kind of protests that we have seen women do in the last few days. As we have gone through this confirmation process of kavanaugh. It is time for women to say that were tired of being disrespected. Were tired of being, you know, called out our names, et cetera, et cetera, and, of course, this Sexual Assault that so many have gotten away with for so long is over. The me too movement have gotten us started, the marches that weve been doing, were not going to back down, youre not going to intimidate us, youre not going to frighten us, youre not going to take away our right to stand up for ourselves. And guess what . While theyre trying to say to families youve got to be worried about your boys, families know, families know, first of all, theyve got to be worried about all of their children. But they also understand, if their daughters are to grow up and to have careers and to have confidence and to be able to realize their full potential, now is the time to embrace them and stand with them as they push back on the abuse of power by people like the president of the United States and mcconnell. They have abused their power. Ive never seen anything like this before. They have run over us. They have refused to respect dr. Ford. Theyve refused to bring forth the witnesses that are knocking down the doors of the fbi saying let me come and tell you about what was happening with kavanaugh. Not only in high school, but in college. And so were not going to allow them to take this false message that theyre trying to carry, the american people, trying to make them believe that were an angry mob. Were not going to let them get away with that. This president will try anything. And he will change the conversation if we allow him. But now we know we can push back on it. Let me ask you something. I want you to respond to something that Hillary Clinton said, i thought that was notable, and shes someone that obviously has a reputation in the United States senate as a first lady for bipartisanship, shes worked with people across the aisle, this is what she had to say president Republican Party and civility. Take a listen. You cannot be civil with a Political Party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. Thats why i believe, if we are fortunate enough to win back the house and or the senate, thats when civility can start again. But until then the only thing that the republicans seem to recognize and respect is strength. What do you think of that . Well, i like that, and listen, i understand and i know what protest is all about. Of course it will make others feel comfortable. But you dont go around saying, may i please protest you . No. You gather your strength and you take it to where it has to go. And you will make people uncomfortable. Thats what change is all about. I want to be clear on this. There are people who hear that and they think what youre calling for is physical intimidation, things that fray at the social fabric, that make people cower at the possibility of violence, of setting someone off who is perhaps unwell. I want you to respond to that concern. Well, that is absolutely untrue. If they would like to take and redefine, somehow, protest, and call it something else, theyll try and do that. Theyll try and get away with that. But that is not absolutely true. You dont hear us talking about hitting anybody. Punching anybody. Killing anybody. You have one of the Trump Supporters that said you bet i liked it, knocking the hell out of them big mouth the next time we see him we may need to kill him. You dont hear us talking like that. When we protest, yes, were shouting out. We have signs. Were saying what we think. Well get to the public. And we are not saying were going to kill anybody, were going to hit anybody, or were going to cause anybody any harm, thats a lie in the way that theyre trying to redefine protests. Congresswoman maxine waters, thank you as always for making some time. Youre welcome. For more on the political landscape, ahead of the Midterm Elections, im joined by betsy woodruff, and dave wiegle. I wanted to talk to you, dave, i remember when you and i were both covering the tea party in 2009 and 2010, its a crazy kind of inverse image, lots of angry people, i remember peopling shouting at members of congress right in their faces and this was massively celebrated and stoked, there were big fox news shows all about it and times seem to have changed. I was flashing back to the exact same stuff. I was also flashing back a little bit to two years ago and change when Hillary Clinton used a line shed been using different versions of and said that half of Trump Supporters were in the bask of deplorable they still use it. They made that the theme of the next rally, they were the deplorables, embracing the idea that they were scary and energized. Hillary Clintons Campaign made this attitude in a lair that swing voters who werent comfortable with her were going to jump over because they couldnt stand the thought of an angry group of people taking over not that every election is a mirror version of the last one. But theres this fatal conceit of the entire Trump Presidency, that a president who only won of the vote, can minimize everybody else. Thats not been true over the Election Special elections weve seen in the last year. Its not true in the house polling that you pointed to now. Its striking me, betsy, that the successes and the victories dont seem to provide the emotional motivating force that republicans feel that their base needs. So the kavanaugh win or the tax cuts, its like it has to be that youre under threat and under peril is the means why you get vested. Thats a fact with which the Trump Campaign is intimately acquainted. If you talk to people in ted cruzs orbit who are close to cruzs 2016 president ial candidacy. The moment they saw trumps numbers go up and cruzs go down was a night in march of 2016 when protesters in chicago mobilized and kept trump from being able to have a rally in that city. Cruz folks will tell you that when that protest happened, a number of republican primary voters saw it, fox news covered the whole thing live, wall to wall coverage, republican primary voters saw it and they decided whoever these people are protesting must be doing something right and thats a big part of the reason, its obviously not the whole reason, but its a really important moment for understanding why trump did as well as he did with republican primary voters. And thats part of the reason that people in trumps orbit right now are surprisingly delighted to see some of these protests. Its a really interesting paradox. That the protests were seeing from people who are deeply concerned about the Trump Presidency simultaneously bring a lot of the heartening and enthusiasm to the left but also perplexingly enough give trump potentially an opening to go after his biggest critics. Theres always this bang shot reasoning, if the people i dont like are angry then the thing theyre angry at must be good. That can apply in lots of places. Theres also the fact, dave, youve covered grassroots politics anywhere in the country, flying around, i saw you do it with the tea party, and one of the lessons ive learned from your reporting is anger equals activation and organizing. There is a lot going on among people in opposition to the Trump Administration in the Republican Party. There is. And everything betsy said was right. But id emphasize again that was the republican primary electorate. Thats been an issue with the administration is that they are intimately concerned with whether republicans are excited to vote and thinking less about adding independents onto that. The idea that these independents alienated by protests, its something theyve been trying for 18 months. When he was running the most mellow campaign you can imagine. A lot of attack ads focused on anti j20, groups that protested the inauguration. People were throwing bricks in the windows, setting things on fire. That was going to be part of the message into this election. Great point. Ive seen it in direct mail all the time. It was going to be part of the message. What was striking about the protests last week is i think some of them looked ridiculous, if youre neutral on this, people banging on the door of the Supreme Court yelling no, that seems like a tantrum. They were not violent. There were some people made fun of in ways that were mean, but this was not the collapse of order, it was just a lot messier than you see in d. C. It was a lot like the 2011 protests in wisconsin, which i know betsy and you both covered very well. Republicans remember that as the moment when they took back the state, they energized the party. They did. They also lost wisconsin two years later and only picked it up with donald trump. The dynamics of having a lot of angry people in the streets. Now, if theyre all doing something violent and counterproductive. Thats one thing. The people i know at this protest, i know having covered them, literally flew back from d. C. To their states to go dock on doors. They are ten times as energized as they were. Thats the part of the question. Part of the story i heard from republicans was, if kavanaugh goes down, you will deflate the republican base, betsy. But its also the case that i just feel like the way the news cycle is, right, like election 30 days from now, somethings got to sustain that activation, and that seems to me what the message mongers on the right are trying to find that will keep people pumped up. I was chatting with a wellconnected republican, political operative a little bit earlier this evening who said that generally speaking the view from republicans in washington is that the kavanaugh confirmation just is not any sort of major game changer. When it comes to the Midterm Elections. I dont think any serious republicans who are familiar with good data are under the impression that its making things substantially or statistically significantly easier for them. And thats part of the reason that were now seeing so many republicans as your radio montage showed, almost highlighting the fact that people on the left are really mobilized and protesting in ways that are extremely visible. Congresswoman waters made a very point to you, these kind of protests make people uncomfortable, for conservatives, for people on the right, for people in trumps orbit looking not necessarily to court independence, but solely to mobilize their base voters that discomfort can be politically weaponized. Thats what were seeing trump and his associates try really hard to do as we go into the final weeks before the midterms. Betsy woodruff and dave wiegle, thank you both for being with me. Ill talk to beto orourke about his fight to unseat ted cruz, and why today a month before the midterms could be decisive in his attempt to turn texas blue. Beto orourke joins me in two minutes. State of texas has not elected a democrat to statewide office since forrest gump was the number one movie in the country. Senate candidate beto orourke is trying like hell to change that. If he does he might look back on today as the moment that made it happen. That is because today is the last day to register to vote in the state of texas. This year has seen a surge in registered voters a jump of 1. 6 million since the last time texas held a Midterm Election in 2016. Orourke trails ted cruz by five points in the latest polling. A super pack released this ad directed by an oscar nominee attacking cruz. Somebody left open my door the other dash ted cruz, tough as texas. If somebody called my wife a dog and sad my daddy was in on the kennedy assassination, i wouldnt be kissing their ass. You stick a finger in their crest and give them a few choice words or you drag their ass out by the wood shed and kick their ass, ted. Come on, ted. Joining me now is texas congressman and Democratic Senate candidate beto orourke. Congressman, i should be clear you do not approve of that message. That is an independent Group Spending on your behalf. Were running this one with people. No packs, no spreshl interests, no outside interests, going to everyone in the 254 counties of texas, today at Texas Southern university here in houston, after that at rice, yesterday at Lone Star Community college, we are with people who have been counted out or written off, young people not expected to vote, were with them so when when he win theyre a big part of the reason we do. They are the leaders of this moment. And theyre showing up and theyre registering as you just said and theyre making a commitment to vote on october 22nd, our first day of early voting in texas. Part of the problem for democrats is that texas, when you look at it from a 30,000 foot view, it seems like the vote should be there. Turnout in texas is the worst in the country. 2006, 2010, 2014 its at the very bottom with voter turnout around 30 . What is your understanding of why that is . So, dont take my word for it. The courts four times last year found people have been drawn out of their congressional districts based on race and ethnicity, drawn out of a reason to vote, drawn out of their democracy. The onus is on us to transcend that, give irch a reason to vote, showing up in every county and within every community. Nobody off, taking no one for granted, giving everyone a reason to vote and help to set the expectations to which im going to perform in the senate. And you see that on these college campuses. You see that in the third ward or cashmere garden here in houston, you see it in every community we go to, going to the rio grand valley, listening to those

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