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MSNBCW All In With Chris Hayes February 16, 2019

California takes him to court. Plus inside the new files from roger stone and Paul Manafort. Why was Sarah Sanders meeting with robert mueller. And making sense of amazons decision to pull its Head Quarters from fwho quarters from new york. After failing to persuade congress to fund the border wall thrbs one he promised mx co would pay for, he did an end run, declaring a National Emergency to repurpose federal funds for the wall. And in yet another unsettling performance in the rose garden, he admitted it has nothing to do with security. We could do the wall over a longer period of time. I didnt need to do this but i have to do it much faster. And i dont need to do it for the election. Ive weve already done a lot of wall for the election, twnt twnt. And the on lareason were talking about this is because of the elebz. Because they want to try to win an election which it looks like theyre not going to be able to do and this is one of the ways they think they can possibly win is by obstruction and a lot of other nonsense. I just want to get it done faster. In a sign of how serious lathe president talks the socalled emergency, he hopped a flight to spend the weekend at maralago. Whos bulled inaccurately as a way to stop illegal drugs. They divert from the pentagon progroom combat drug trafficking. They have to fight the president s power grab with every means available, which could include forcing a vote on a mesher to over rule the president. That is not showdown menany republicans are eager to phase. Rick scott, Lindsey Graham and Mitch Mcconnell voicing support for talking power from their own branch of government. Still others dismiss it altogether as an empty gesture by a fundamentally weak president. One House Republican saying republicans and me are good. He undoubtedly will be enjoyed from carrying it out and we move on. Ann coulter whose advice the president has sought and took, took a somewhat less satisfied attitude saying the gol of the National Emergency is for trump to sdham stupidest people in his base for more years. And the ashclu announced plans sue. Live from an all in exclusive. What is your state going to do about the declaration today . Im trying to process the fact that im agreeing with ann coulter for perhaps the first time in my lifetime. Californias prepared to call this what this is, which is a theater of the absurd. California is prepared to continue reminding athe people this is manufactured crisis. The lowest number since 1971. The reality is ports of entrees is where most drugs are seized. Were willing to work with theed a mun stragz but not on a monumental wall. The troops have been deployed from their mission at the border. We dont want to participate this show anymore. And he said he wanted 3,750 additional mu addition military personnel on the border. Maybes our National Guard troops look trivial and insignificant. We dont want to be part of this theater, part of this political you know misdirection. California is better than that. American people i think deserve better and so california wants to stand tall. I want to askia a question i ask asked beto orourke in el paso. Fencing didnt exist for a long time, only pursuant to the secure fencing act in 2006. Much is fenced in the state of california. I want to play you what i asked him. This is what i had to ask orourke last night. Take a listen. If you could would you take the wall down sneer absolutely. You think if theres a referendum in the city, that would pass . I do. Would you take the wall down that is currently up in the california border . Not prepared to saw that. Its appropriate in some areas and inappropriate in other areas. But at major ports of entree, i believe its approp art. There are appropriate places for barriers. Buts i do not believe we should be playing into the current discussion, particular lawith a president that couldnt even spend the Money Congress appropriated him last year. He cant even get that money inivisted. Why are we even having the conversation about additional inivistment or even this notion of an emergency . Zoom out for a question about the state you govern. There was long time where republicans were powerful. A conservative state for a long time. Viewed widely as an antiimmigrant proposition made the Republican Party increasingly taubsic, led to democratic governorance to the fact that now its unified andmany see that as a warning signal. As the governor of the state of california, is that your thesis as well . Look, america in 2019 reminds me a lot of california in the 1980s and 1990s. Xenophobia, and nativism. We had a governor that would make donald trump blush. Proposition 227. Were advancing aggressive krierm measures like three strikes and youre out. But now here we are fast track to your point. Were not only the most diverse state and demoberacy, 27 of us are a minority state and were living and advancing together quite well across every conceivable and imaginable difference. The only people not advancing is the Republican Party which is third part a status in california. Thats not a causary tale, i think it should be. Donald trump is walking them off the same cliff our former governor of california walked the Republican Party off in the 1990s. Want to ask you a question about the president ial campaign of 20 twentd. Kamala harris has resoovd prominent endorsements. Lee, the legendary labor organizer. Do you have someone youre endorsing . Im very enthusiastic about kamala harris. Ill be endorsing her candidacy for president. Ive known her for decades, not only as District Attorney where she did an extraordinary job with a progressive record and she served as attorney general and ive had the privilege of working with her as a u. S. Senator. I think the American People could not do better. That is news, correct . I have not said that public la, no. Well come on anytime you want to make news, governor. Thank you very much. Thank you, chris. For more on the congressional response im joined by democratic congresswoman Maxine Waters of california. What are the discussions among democratic leadership unresponse to what the president announced today . Let me just tell you there are discozes going on. About a resolution of disapproval. That resolution of disapproval can be taken up by any house and voted on even if its not by committee and we ecan let this president know what we think about this fake emergency that hes creating. The resolution of disapproval, which my understanding on this is because of the National Emergencies act, right . It gives congress a check and both houses would end up picking it up. Theres an opportunity to force the senates hand. Is that right . If we take it up, they must take it up. What do you think the politics of this are on in the country and on capitol hill . The president , many thought today looked rather weak. Like he was trueing tox plain a failure. I think that this president is literally being pushed by the right wing conservatives that he listens to avr day when hes taking socalled executive time and theyre saying if you dont get this wall youre not going to boo reelected. So hes up against a wall by trying to make sure he does everything he can to make it look as though hes fighting real a hard to get this wall because he believes as they are advise him that if hhe doesnt it, hell not be reelected. He told us he was going to build a big, beautiful wall and make mexico pay for it. Have the american citizens forgotten what he said . And now hes trueing to maybe the american citizens pay for this wall. Weve done a good job in negotiating Bipartisan Legislation by saying youre not getting 5. 7 billion and now hes going to try to go to other ageances where money is approp arated and take that money from them to makeup for this 5 pout 7 that he dud not get. Soyeah, hooprobabe probably loo uncomfortable because he is. He can on lalie for so much and for so long. Both politicians and writers concerned about a democratic president using a similar gambit for Something Like Climate Change. Both in the majority and minority, what do you think precedent is . I think thats what some of them are frightened of. And thats why i real ax pect were gohaving to a growing number of republicans that there going to join with us in this disapproval. Yes, theyre concerned if a democratic president gets elected then they can use Emergency Powers to do a lot of the things they dont like and they dont believe in Climate Change. They dont want us to talk about medicare for all or any of those subjects they think well spend too much government money, even though theyve created the largest debt weve seen in government for men ea, many years. One of your colleagues, the wisconsin said something last night i thought was interesting. She said if trump circumvents congress to declare a National Emergency, it would be grounds for umpeachment. This is a lawless president making the mockery of the separation of powers upon which our democracy built. You know ive bun talking about impeachment for a long time. Im stunned and amauzzed that t American People have taben so much off of this president. This president has lied, i thin its been documented 800 times in the last two years. And if we could ever get manafort to tell the truth,en the we will find they conspired to gt trump elected so sanz sanctions could be lifted off of russia. President obama created sanctions, placed them on russia because of their invasion, basically in crimea and they cant drill into the arctic and do some of these in thes they want to do. They dont have the equipment. Our allies are working with us to honor the sanctions and thats what this is all about. The americans have taken too much off of this president. He is dishonorable. He does not deserve to be president of the united states. As a matter of fact he loves putin, dictators loves kim jongun, talking bout theyre in love now. All hands on deck to refuse this president these fake Emergency Powers that he would like the have and im urging everybody rally in every Community Across this country all this weekend, send a message to washington d. C. , no, mr. President , were not going allow you to do this. All right. Congresswoman, Maxine Waters, thank you very much. Youre soualcome. The president said theres no National Emergency while declaring a nationalmergency which could be a problem for him in court. Wll which could be a problem for him in court in court wl burning of diabetic nerve pain bear my diabetic nerve pain any longer. In court wl burning of diabetic nerve pain so i talked to my doctor and he prescribed lyrica. Lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions, suicidal thoughts or actions. Tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worse depression, unusual changes in mood or behavior, swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling, or blurry vision. Common side effects dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain, swelling of hands, legs, and feet. Dont drink alcohol while taking lyrica. Dont drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. Those whove had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. 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A lot of criticism for this legally. What is your contngz was the aclus contention of the legality of the Emergency Declaration . President trumps declaration is a bogus emergency and patently illegal. It flies in the face of the rule of law,chucks and balances that congress has imposed on the president and thats why well be in Court Next Week to challenge it. Hes invoking powers under a law Congress Passed saying in the case of anmergence he can use funds for military construction for the use of the armed forces. He, as you said earlier before the break said at the very moment hes declaring this bogus emergency i didnt need to do this. By definition thats not anmergency and what hes doing is illegal. Weve seen before in cases, lawsuits against president ial actions, the president s own words boo sited in court, particularly with regard to the travel ban, which was his muslim ban and courts not that inclined to point to that have used president ial speech to say look, this is this goes to the nature of intent. Did he hurt himself loogally with his admission . He total a dud. What you dont want is a client that will give a press conference and add three separasep paragrams to the complaint. Number one i didnt need to and number two i wanted to do it fast and free because its politics. Most certain laehis words with will be considered by the courts and in determining whether this was an emergence or not context was important. Weve b weve been hearing for weeks this is an emergency. This is a fake emergency. A violation of the rule of law and frankly what im excited to see is not just organize ays like the aclu or we see states, suties and lukely see private property land owners because even if the courts were to find he had this power, whos sawing Eminent Domain is going to be used on the border. 1 3 is owned by the government. The rest is private property, states and native American Land and you cant just take this kind of property on a whim for some fake wall because of a fake emergency. The president did this very weird rift where he did a little fid federal procedure 101 and it will go to the district ocourt and up to the Supreme Court where he had confidence. I mean there seems to be a sns sense among this administration they have the votes on the Supreme Court. I think President Trump and his sing song refrain is recognize what hes doing is illegal. He is on thin ice or no ice at all and falling to the abyss. Weve got members of congress from right to left. Youve got the National Review join Maxine Waters in sawing this is possibly an impeachable action and were not going to comment on that. But its certainly true that president has repeatedly said that the Supreme Court is going to come to his rescue. He claimed it during his Government Shutdown when he claimed that the cort was going to intervene on daub. A. C. A. And they did not do so. Hes wrong on the wall and the facts and hurting americans in the process. From a kaungs tuesdayconstit perspective, it does seem different from utter National Emergencies. And congress has the power of the purse. And yun thing that is imper missibly is to get fund from other sources when congress has expr presley not given that authority. And with respect to private property and Eminent Domain and i think the 3rd piece is there are states that will argue theyre being harmed by these particular actions. We think are going to be raised in a variety of different questions. They got it wrong on japanese internment under National Emergencies and hoohas the mentality of nixon and the power grab of dick cheney and whether ornot the supreme koicocourt ge it right, this is a problem. The disastrous rambleing in the rose garden is what happens when the president spends too much time watching his stories. Much time watching his stori es our grandparents checked their smartphones zero times a day. Times change. Eyes have

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