Likely successor will be a woman or a person of color, would you kindly extend a hand into the air. The democrats took on climate deniers in congress. You serious . This is really a serious happening here . You know what . It is serious. All in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Many before him tried to failed to do. Attempting to serve two masters much the president interest and the president of the United States. When push comes to shove, there is no question where barrs priorities lie. Back for a second day in a row where he tried to restore faith amidst an information vacuum of his own creation because he wont let them see it. Barr said the report is being redacted with input and he will make a good faith effort to get the information they need. I intend to take up with the house and the Senate Judiciary committees, the chairman and Ranking Member of each. What other areas they have a need to have access to the information and see if i can work to accommodate as has been correctly said here. The fact that information is classified does not mean that congress cant see it. That was not the headline from the attorney generals appearance. No, no, no. The big news is that barr is conducting his own review in addition to the by the Inspector General of how the probe into the Trump Campaign got started. I think spying on a Political Campaign is a big deal. Its a big deal. You are not suggesting though that spying occurred . I dont well, i guess you could i think spying did occur, yes. I think spying did occur. Well, let me the question is whether it was predicated. Adequately predicated and im not suggesting it was, but i need to explore that. Okay. Its clear from the context that barr meant spying in a neutral sense. You can see him puzzle over that word. The question was whether it was adequately predicate and did they undertake the surveillance because there was a reason to . There was no evidence to suggest it did not. Barr so happened to use the same sinistersounding word used by the president and his allies as a short hand for the experience theory about socalled efforts to frame the Trump Campaign spy game. Remember the tweet more than two years ago that president obama had his wires tabbed in trump tower . That is bogus and unfounded claim was a basis for ever expanding web of conspiracy theories known as spy gate with carter page and George Papadopoulos and devin nunez and trump and undermine the Mueller Probe and attack political opponents. When the attorney general, the countrys most senior official used the word spying, these were the resulting headlines. This is what barr did for his boss today. Gave him ammunition for a political battle with the stamp of approval from the u. S. Department of justice. This was an attempted coup. This was an attempted take down of a president. We beat them. We beat them. What im most interested in is getting started, hopefully the attorney general mentioned it yesterday. Hes doing a great job. Getting started ongoing back to the rjs of exactly where this all started. Nancy pelosi took time out of the democratic retreat in virginia to talk about barrs testimony. Let me just say how very, very display o maying and disappointing that the chief Law Enforcement officer of our country is going off the rails. Yesterday and today. He is attorney general of the United States of america, not the attorney general of donald trump. Joined by two former federal prosecutors, the deep understanding of the nonpolitical role, harry litman from the Western District and a former Deputy Assistant attorney general. Carol lam is from the Southern District of california and former superior court judge in san diego. You can see barr wrestling with himself in the moment. The idea that he is going to under take a review of the origins of the probe that has been a point of partisan contention for a while. What does it say about the independence for the department of justice under his watch . The one thing that did surprise me is attorney general bar seemed sort of surprised that people were taken aback by the word spy. It didnt seem to register with him that that was a hot button word to use. He did eventually sort of change that into surveillance and then he said it is concern was whether the surveillance was predicated. I think it doesnt surprise me, given what barr had written in the past given the role of the president. It doesnt surprise me that he would say well, if the president wants me to open an investigation or at least take a look into whether something improper happened, i will do that. Whether he calls balls and strikes appropriately when he looks at whats actually there. So he did say im going to wait for the Inspector General report and see what it says and we will take it from there. None of that is that unusual, but he seemed not to appreciate what the word spy suggested there. Here is what is unusual to me. Its not necessarily actions at the department of justice, but the context of the president berating, bullying and insulting his former attorney general because he didnt do what he wanted. Barr, knowing this is one of several things the president wants. He wants to be exonerated in the public mind with respect to the Mueller Report and gave him something to say that and people to think there is a deep seeded experience out to get him. He gave him that. Its a question of whether you can trust barr as an independent arbiter given the forces from 1600 pennsylvania. It is. It is unusual. You it take it from what he said or what hes doing. There would have been 20 ways to put it better including nothing at all. No comment other than perhaps i will look at it. Its a charged word. He knows its a charged word. It blogged a grenade into a political mine field. I take carols point. There is a way of seeing it as bland and straight forward, looking at procedures. Thats not what the attorney general would normally do. If he wants the ig report, that suggests he wants the facts and a whole reexamination of the bogus charges involving mccabe and the like. That can only inflame a political squabble that the doj has no business being in. Its not in barrs interest to be in. Heres the thing, carol. There are good faith interpretations of his actions and bad faith. The bad faith from the white house is given. The pressure from the white house is given. We know what they want and they do not report the independence of the department. I want to get your reaction to what he said when asked whether the white house had seen the report which would not be improper. It would be fairly standard, but he gave a weird squirrely answer yesterday and another today. Has anyone in the white house seen any of the report . Im not going to im landing the plane right now and i have been willing to discuss my, my, my letters and the process going forward, but the report is going to be out next week and im just not going to get into the details of the process until the plane is on the ground. What did you think, carol . One thing is perfectly clear here. Thats that politics and criminal Law Enforcement make terrible bed fellows. Its true now. It was hard for me to tell whether bill barr was saying im not going down this rabbit hole and im going to stop this now. It would have been easy to say no, they havent seen it, particularly since he said he was not going to submit the report for executive privilege review. He decided not to talk any further on it. I dont know what to conclude from that. If they are not going to review it for executive privilege, i dont really know if its that much concern frankly. They are not going to hold up the process of getting what they can to congress. For seems that you should just answer it. Again, if you say yeah, they want a privileged review and you are entitled to that, you can say that. You certainly could. It could be in the context of the hearing. At some point he was going to stonewall them and that was the point as carol says. It isnt necessarily sinister and all these questions will await and be so much more lum nated. The bigger stuff about the Mueller Report is the revelation that mueller, from the time he told barr he was not going to bottom line has been completely out of the process. Barr takes it on himself and doesnt even consult with him and this was astonishing. He doesnt know how mueller feel about that. That makes it seem like a complete move by barr that is strange. Im not sure that will be explained on tuesday. We should know a lot about muellers decision, however. Harry litman and carol lam. My next join is Richard Blumenthal. A member of the Senate Judiciary committee. The rnc support an email out that said the hunters become the hunted. Rnc email highlighted the spying comment, the hunters become the hunted. What does that say, do you think, about what happened today . What it says, chris, very clearly, is that the barr initiative and it was his doing on his own, using the word spying was a dog whistle. Firefighters a shout out to the far right ecosystem and to the false trump narrative about his being the victim, not the perpetrator and the Republican National committee will use this clip in ads. Hard to see how this could not have been a calculated step by william barr because this term is so incendiary and so loaded, no professional would ever use it. The person who authorized the warrants sits down the hall from him. Rod rosenstein. He depends on rosenstein as having concurred with his fourpage summary of the Mueller Report. This kind of feeding the narrative, i think was a calculated decision. You had an exchange with someone before your committee. Deputy attorney general Jeffrey Rosen about sort of ensuring the independence to the department of justice even if he were to be confirmed. I want to ask what you came away from that exchange with. Take a listen. Will you commit to this committee and the United States congress that you will protect the ongoing investigations in the Southern District of new york and the Eastern District of new york from any interference by the white house, either to fire or discipline members of those United States attorneys offices . I think what i would say about that is what i said before. I see and i think to check mr. Chairman graham alluded to this. There is different functions in the department and the function with regard to Law Enforcement investigations and prosecutions is one that needs to be free of improper political influences from any source. That includes congress as well as any other source. I agree. Will you commit that you will protect any attempt to interfere in the ongoing investigations to fire a United States attorney and discipline anyone in those offices, to remove anyone from those conversations and otherwise interfere with investigations of the president of the United States who has been named as an unindicted coconspirator, individual number one. I dont think i can do better than what i just said before. I think what i said before is accurate. You embedded additional things that im not addressing. Im not inventing anything, mr. Rosen. Im stating what the facts are and the need for the independence and integrity of the department of justice. Is that lawyerly carefulness on mr. Rosens part or something other than that . It left me with less than full confidence in his backbone and his determination to stand up to the president of the United States. You said at the outset of this show, the question here really is about Law Enforcement, the independence of our justice system. Is mr. Rosen has a long and varied career. Thats what he calmed it. None of it as a prosecutor and none of it making decisions about how to defend his lying prosecutors. Im left with the impression that the differently justice will serve as the roy cohen for this administration and that the attorney general and his deputy are consig liaries more than the people of the United States. Senator Richard Blumenthal from the Senate Judiciary committee, thank you very much for your time. Breaking news on the request for the president s tax returns. Steve mnuchin is not ready to comply with the law. He informed the house ways and Means Committee that the Treasury Department will not meet the deadline to turn over the last six years of tax returns by todays deadline. He said he was consulting in a request he called unprecedented added that it raises issues of constitutional scope of investigative authority, legitimacy of the Constitutional Rights of american citizens. The legal implications could protect all americans from personal Tax Information regardless of the party in power. David kay johnson has been reporting on d. C. Report. Org, the news site he founded. What do you make of the response . This is totally what we expected and its completely false. The law is Crystal Clear and the reasons that richie neal set forward for requesting the returns fall under the oversight functions of congress. We should look at this as part of what donald trump said today. There is an attempted coup. There is an attempted coup and its by donald trump. He has to bring Law Enforcement to his heels. The thing jim comey would not give him to run over the law and evade responsibility and impose his personal will everywhere in this government. There is a sort of interesting thing happening here. Thats that the president has been clear he is not going to give this over. There is no mention of an audit in the mnuchin letter. What do you make of that. First of all, there is no evidence there is an audit. He wont even provide the audit notice. That can be of a gift tax return that he gave a gift to one of his grandchildren. There is no reason to think there is anything there, but the statute has nothing to do with audits. Once you sign your tax return under penalty of perjury, you cant change it. You live with what you sign. Donald trump twice lost civil tax fraud trials and confessed to being a sales tax cheat. He knows if his tax returns get examined outside of the irs, hes got serious problems. Thats why he is so desperate to cover up. As part of his effort to exat the present time to the government. There was a diplomatic statement by the chair and representative neal concluding i will consult with counsel in the coming days because he is preparing himself for litigation. There is Something Else that has been preposterous. We all know thats the position of government. Mnuchin is pretending to consult when we all know what the consultation is. They are trying to delay, delay, delay. Fabricate and mislead the public. Millions of americans out there believe that donald trump is under siege by all sorts of horrible people. They have good reasons to be upset and concerned because of the things in our economy that we are not giving attention to and the people in fact factories and things like that. Their policy is to mislead the public about arcane and obtuse and critically important to our country issues. Thats all they are trying to do. 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