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MSNBCW All In With Chris Hayes February 7, 2020

Hampshire. All in starts right now. Good evening from manchester, New Hampshire, im chris hayes, it is one day after the conclusion of the third president ial impeachment trial in american history. And the first ever, ever bipartisan vote to remove a sitting president. We are five days away from the beginning of actual primary voltvolt votes, not caucus votes in New Hampshire. Today as we sit here, the stakes of who will be the leader of this country were clearly outlined by the president himself, a day after he was acquitted of abuse of power, President Trump started the day by attacking speaker of the house nancy pelosi and senator mitt romney at the National Prayer breakfast and convened what he called quote not a news conference, not a speech but rather a quote celebration. In reality it was more akin to what President Donald Trump sees as well the real state of the union. The event was a free form, 63 minute of grievances like a rambling toast at a feud stricken family wedding. Congressman adam schiff, former fbi director james comey, he relar relitigated the election. His children would make a fortune if they behaved like hunter biden. Spent five minutes describing in detail the attack that nearly killed congressman Steven Scalise said he set a record for blood loss. He bounced from topic to topic with no clear plan or train of logic. Ironically for the past three weeks, the president has been publicly represented by well paid polished white shoe lawyers explaining his behavior in a mostly coheerent and generous way. He was not giving testimony under oath himself, god forbid. But today he was out there, talking for himself. Im going to play a small snippet of what today was like, warning, it doesnt make a lot of sense. A woman who became a we have a couple of women that became stars, you two, and i always liked the name of her, you know, i like the name lesko. I liked it. Thats how i picked it. I liked the name. I saw that face, everything, they gave me cards, he had like seven opponents, right. And you have no idea how much the public appreciates how smart, how sharp you are. This i cant tell. I cant tell. They just said, you know shes really good, shes really talented. I said, lets go. I dont honestly know what he was talking about there, an endorsement for congresswoman lesko which he apparently picked on her face and name, and thanked Mitch Mcconnell and congressman denver nunes and all the other republicans who helped him cover up his misdeeds. The president of the United States publicly solicited tributes and praise from those in attendance exhibiting behavior unbecoming of the leader of a representative democracy. Here is congressman mark meadows bending over backwards to show his undying allegiance to the president. Jim jordan, did you want to say something, go ahead. Mark . Just say that this reflection today, its a small reflection of the kind of support we have all across the country. Weve got your back. President trump showed exactly what we can expect from him for the next 271 days until election day. He lashed out the people trying to protect our institutions and brought the Republican Party even further under his mortifying control. It remains the question of the year whether the Majority Coalition of americans opposed to the presidency will essentially exercise their democratic right and whether they will be able to do that unfettered by literal election meddling, something the president has repeatedly encouraged and solicited. Joining me now, one of the people who voted yesterday to remove the president from office, democratic senator Debbie Stabenow from michigan. How are you feeling the day after today . Well, chris, its always good to be with you. I do have to say that on the one hand, its very depressing listening to what you were playing, certainly very depressing but for me, its a moment to recommit myself to what we have to do. We know what this president is. Hes going to do this over and over again. I dont know about you, but, you know, im tired of just going, oh, my gosh, what did he say, what did he do, hes going to do it all the time. St like adam schiff said at hs s closing in the trial, do you think President Trump is going to do this again, 100 . We know he believes hes above the law. We know hes going to get as much foreign interference to help him as possible. For me, the question is what we are going to do, and so youre there in New Hampshire, you know, in the middle of that, but the truth is weve got to decide weve had enough of this. We cant take four more years of this. Our country cant. Our children cant. Our climate cant. And so we got to say were going to focus on the real accountability that they were talking about and thats the election. And the other thing i would just say is right now, what were doing is focussing on going back to work in the United States senate, to try to pry loose some of the 300 bills, 90 of which are bipartisan that Mitch Mcconnell has stuck in his legislative graveyard, rather than taking up. Prescription drug costs going down. Health care, Climate Crisis, gun violence, election security, were going to go back door and do our best to shake loose and get something done for the American People. Gretchen whitmer this week gave the response to the state of the union. Governor of your state of michigan, elected in 2018. You were reelected that same year, and it was striking to me how focused she was on policy and Kitchen Table issues and i wonder as someone who represents a swing state, where you come down when you think about the message to voters on the president s personality, his character, the corruption and the basic meat and potatoes policy. You know, chris, i was very proud of our governor, and i have to say, she really hit the mark in talking about certainly what people in michigan care about, and its the same thing i hear from my colleagues across the country. What donald trump is, who he is, is kind of baked in. Right. What folks want to know is who are we, what are we fighting for . When he is at the state of the union saying he wants to protect coverage for preexisting conditions, hes moving a lawsuit all the way to the Supreme Court that will rip that away. We are on the front lines talking about, and not only talking, acting on those things that would lower costs, give more coverage, lower Prescription Drug costs. In michigan, its protect our great lakes, you know, the Climate Crisis is barrelling down on us, and nothing is going to happen as long as this guy is in the white house and the republicans control the United States senate. And so we could go issue by issue, but people in michigan are, you know, theyre tired. They say come on, im working every day. Im working two jobs, three jobs, id like to work one to be able to take care of my family. I want to know i can go to a good Public School thats just in the neighborhood and make sure my child gets the education they need, and we can afford to have him go to college or a skilled trade. I mean, all the things that relate to just having a good life. And i think people are just tired of this. I mean, how much longer are we going to have to put up with this. Well, you know what, not too much longer, its called november election. Senator Debbie Stabenow of michigan, thank you for making a little time this evening. Youre welcome. Joining me now for the state of the country and the upcoming New Hampshire primary, Charlie Pierce esquire, matt visor, National Political reporter for the washington post. Good to have you both here. Matt, as i was watching the president today, i was struck by a thought. His Approval Rating has gone up marginally during the impeachment trial, and i have the theory that anything that essentially takes him out of the center focus, even if its his own impeachment, ends up to his benefit, this the the president , this is who he is. We havent seen him in a while. Interesting because hes been at the center of impeachment, but not testifying. Not at the forefront, and this was a reminder, i think of sort of what he is and what he does and how he rambles as you point out, going on for over an hour, giving plenty of content to any opponent of his and reminding people i think of why theyre opposed to him. If youre a democrat focused on the primary race. That question, and theres a reason i ask senator stabenow, that, one of the key questions has to do with the sort of access to have do you run against donald trump as this abhorrent, clearly strange individual who is very different than every other president and from democrats perspective worse, or do you run on Prescription Drugs and Health Insurance and the climate . Well, i think, first of all, we had the president have a double header nutty, and the first opening game of the double header nutty was the National Prayer breakfast. Is the United States willing to go four more years with a president who is clearly deranged. I mean, that was exhibits a through d today. Having done that, then you can ask, are you willing to go another four years with a president whos clearly deranged and also bad on climate change, bad on health care, doesnt know the basics of his job, and lived four years crossing your fingers that nothing goes haywire overseas or that the coronavirus doesnt turn into an american pandemic because he and his administration clearly arent up to handling anything more complicated than his lunch order. The embarrassing thing to me today was watching that incredible array. It was amazing. Of sycophants in the audience. Nobody in that hall you talk about the emperor has no clothes, that story lowballs it with these guys. It did really have the feeling, this is something that he has done before. He does at his cabinet meetings where its a Public Offering of tribute. And its loyalty is what matters to him more than anything. He defined the Republican Party now along the lines of loyalty. It is still remarkable to see people get up and offer these tributes. I think he comes out of this emboldened. I mean, he feels like hes coming out of impeachment, and you know, he spoke just a couple of days ago in iowa, and you did not see this sort of display. No. In fact, it was so notable when he was in iowa, it reminded me of the last two weeks of the 2016 campaign. Do you remember those last two weeks. It was the most on script, on message that he has been and it was the comey letter and two weeks of donald trump sticking to the script, and thats the way he was in iowa and not the way he was today. And today hes coming out just after being acquitted by the senate and with republicans aside from mitt romney in lock step with him. I think thats the difference between the des moines donald trump and todays donald trump. I mean, if our choice is peaceful dishonesty or crazy north korean performance art, i dont think thats much of a choice. No. For a representative democracy. No. And the question to me, and you know, against the backdrop of this race here where we just, we have muddled results but sort of as much as were going to get, a race here in the democratic primary is really about this question about how democrats conceive of how theyre running against him, right, particularly in the sort of electability strain but also in the idea the center just spoke to, what you saw today, people know. Like this is who he is, and this is baked into the cake, and every one at this point knows who donald trump is. And the question is what you do with that as a democrat. And i think that that, i mean, this week is interesting for democrats. I was talking to Barbara Boxer earlier in the week, and she said this is just a sad, sad week and i was talking to her right after the iowa results and the whole debacle there, combined with, you know, impeachment and the state of the union, i mean, if youre a democrat, you sort of see this week, and figure out what the party needs to do. I think theres a little bit of innervating paralysis and fear about this moment, and it reminded me a little bit of the aftermath of the kavanaugh confirmation fight where you could just sort of see in the way people were feeling in the democratic side and that large coalition, the activists, a little deflated and then interestingly enough, that was right against the backdrop of the election, people very quickly rebounded and so theres an interesting timing here of this goes literally right into election. And i think youre going to see more of what you saw today on the campaign trail than what you saw in des moines. I agree. And youre certainly going to see more of it from the white house. For some reason, he gets more juiced with the trappings of his perceived emperor hood surrounding him. What you just said, thats so democratic. Do you think given i mean, this guy is the treasurer of sierra madre if youre running against him. The gold is all over the ground. Do you think the Republican Party would have, you know, taken a breath at a Democratic Party president who behaved like this today. They would have plowed over the rustling and put in a Swimming Pool by now. They turned the sheet ripping up into a 24hour story. The president outdid that in the first two minutes that he showed up at the National Prayer breakfast. One of the things i like about nancy pelosi is she hasnt apologized. I want to play this clip of pelosi today talking about her approach to the president. Take a listen. So again, i extend the hand of friendship to him, to welcome him as the president of the United States, to the people of the house. It was also an act of kindness, because he looked to me like he was a little sedated. He looked that way last year, too, and i started to think, there has to be something that clearly indicates to the American People that this is not the truth, and he has shredded the truth in his speech. Hes shredding the constitution in his conduct. I shredded his state of his mind address. There is, i dont know about the specifics of the state of the union and the response but it is clear that, like, pelosi pelosis perspective on him is she sort of has his number psychologically, how to make him fixate and in a state of confrontation is the only option. Theres a lot of hedging and they ratified the trump trade deal. She seems to be in a mode of confrontation. Its interesting, she talks about i pray for him and he looked sedated, you know, theyre like backtoback, those are the comments and i think she handles him in a way that most democrats still struggle with, and you look at this democratic field and how much they talk about trump, and how they talk about trump and they dont do it quite like she does, and i think shes got it in a unique way. And if you went to Catholic School and had nuns, you know what nancy pelosi is doing. When she tore up the state of the union, the first thing she did was make the page perfectly straight and then tear it up, just so you would know, and that thing today of, you know, boy, he might have been in trouble, he looked sedated. Thats the Italian American catholic equivalent of bless your heart. Exactly. Thats exactly what she was doing. 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