Gone from tragedy to activism to poz ti politics. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. Earlier today the Vice President of the United States, mike pence, stopped by a diner and videoed that event. There other than a secret service guy in the back and later a way tres, almost nobody is Wearing Masks as far as i could tell, no one. Certainly not the supposed head of the Coronavirus Task force. Do you remember that . And that might seem like a small thing, especially to anyone who has managed to convince themselves they no longer have to worry about the virus. The reality is that the virus is still here. Its still killing people every day. The more we learn, the more we learn close sustained indoor proximity without masks like what theyre doing at the diner brings with it a high risk of transmission. The more we learn, the more we learn that masks matter a lot. In many countries that have managed to control the virus, pretty much everyone wears masks. Not that we were even to the point where we were trying to prevent a second wave here in america sadly we are still squarely in the first wave. We basically plateaued at about 20,000 cases a day and just under a thousand at the times a day. That is our new devastating normal. We have already lost more than 115,000 americans. Right now hospitalizations are surging in a number of states, including arizona, tennessee, arkansas, South Carolina and alabama. Two states, oregon and utah, have paused their reopening efforts. I will talk to kate brown in a moment about that. Florida and texas just reported records for daily highs in new cases, which is particularly striking given that republicans announced yesterday that jacksonville, florida is the new alternative location for the Republican National convention after officials in charlotte and North Carolina declared the event would not be safe there. Safety does not seem to be much of a concern for the president of the United States amidst the pandemic that has seen 150,000 die. Next week, donald trump is holding his First Campaign rally since the lockdown in tulsa, oklahoma where covid19 cases just reached a high. Outbreak linked to indoor gatherings. Okay. The president will be holding his rally at an indoor arena at the bank of oklahoma center, which seats just over 19,000 people packed in there as far as we could tell. Hes telling his supporters that if they get the coronavirus at his rally it is not his problem. In order to attend, they have to agree not to sue donald trump if they come to the rally and they catch the coronavirus. I mean, at least those people have a choice. The president has forced graduating cadets at west point who have been sent home to return to campus so he can deliver a commencement address tomorrow which we think will be outdoors, so thats good, and could have a photo op with him. 15 of those cadets have already tested positive for the virus. The science here, as tentative and unformed as sort of dynamic as it is suggests our best hope to fight the virus right now if we want to not have lockdown, right, be in some version of normal, our best hope right now is Wearing Masks, washing hands, social distance, but Wearing Masks, Wearing Masks, Wearing Masks. But the president and the Vice President who want to get back to normal not only refuse to wear them, they have effectively turned Wearing Masks into a culture war issue and have stoked this political backlash against those who would dare tell us how to stay safe. In Orange County, california, the chief Health Officer dr. Nicole quick resigned amid backlash and a death threat, death threat, over an order to wear masks. Residents comparing her to a nazi and holding protests at her home. This was the scene at tuesdays Orange County board of supervisors meeting. I have been discriminated five times in the last two days. I have been actually turned away. I cannot go in these businesses without a mask. You are telling me that i have to breathe in co2 when god gave this body the ability to extract that from my body and now you want me to put it back in my body . I have natural rights as a sovereign citizens of the United States. By continuing to keep people in masks, separated and out of work, with no legitimate cause, you are kneeling on the necks of the people and you are continuing to act in a thuggish manner. Guys, its over. Like really . Like, you know . Are we still talking about this . Kneeling on the necks. She compared wearing a mask to killing george floyd and its over. Are we still talking about this . Yeah. People are still dying from it. But thats the view from the white house, that womans view. Ohio is a state that has been a relative Success Story in containing the virus. The republican Governor Mike Dewine has been a leader on the issue. He credited the Health Director of the state as a hero for her role, and that included advising her to lockdown early. It left the state in much better position to reopen. He has now resigned amid lawsuits and protested her home where some people conspicuously carried guns. Some demonstrations featured signs bearing antisemitic messages and referenced her with an antisemimettic slur. She guided her state through a pandemic and for that became a target for reactionary idiots. Look, it is a complicated world we live in. It is not like the experts are all in unison about anything. It is not like it isnt complicated. There have been mixed messages. Were still processing data and there is still all sorts of balances between different kinds of risks, right, what were doing. But we have seen what happens. If there is one thing we know, we have seen what happens across the world and in this country when leaders just shove their fingers in their ears and say, i cant hear you, coronavirus. There is a real danger of letting politics and Political Forces overwhelm Public Health entirely. And we sure as heck should not be punishing Health Experts and leaders for trying to help us help ourselves to stay safe and healthy. Im joined now by the democratic governor of oregon who announced a one week pause in her states move to reopen after 178 new confirmed cases marking the highest daily count in the state since the start of the pandemic. Governor, it is great to have you. Can you take me through your thinking in ordering that oneweek pause . Sure. And its good to see you. So we are taking a one week pause in our reopening. We have seen a number of cases in our county increase. We have not been able to trace all of those cases. We have about 30 of those cases that we cant determine the origin. And were seeing an increase in hospitalization. So my priority as governor is to make sure i protect the health and safety of oregon, so were putting a pause on further reopening efforts. I liken it to my experience as a kid. I grew up in the state of minnesota. We went ice skating in the winter, and after we strapped down our skates, we proceeded cautiously on to the ice. And if the ice started cracking, we stepped back. And we are right now just Holding Steady where were at. If things look better next week, well continue forward. But for right now were going to take a pause. You said of these new cases, there is 30 of them you cant trace. Which means you have traced 70 of them, which means does the state or the local Public Health agencies have testing and tracing capacity to sort of track down these chains of transmission . Yes. Thats the goal. We have been really fortunate here in oregon. I implemented early and aggressive physical distancing measures and shuttered our economy and oregon has made tremendous sacrifices. As a result, we have seen a relatively low infection rate. Its been a challenge then to get the resources for testing that we need from the federal government, but were still working at that. And our local Public Health is working collaboratively with state Public Health to make sure that we have adequate capacity for testing, contact tracing, which really needs to these folks really need to reflect the communities that theyre working in and obviously we have to have isolation and quarantine strategies that once folks test positive or come into contact with someone who is positive, we want them to selfisolate. And folks need help doing that. Sometimes they may need somebody to bring them food. We may need to put them in a motel. They need support and services to be able to do that safely. And local Public Health has been a great partner with state Public Health. Let me ask you about your goal here. It seems to me were a little confused or there are different goals. If you look at south korea, a place like new zealand, hong kong, taiwan, even germany to some extent, what they have basically gotten to is suppression. We seem to be sort of lets kind of ride it out and were just going to trade it off or accept a certain amount of Community Transmission as long as we dont have a spike like we did in se louisiana, michigan or the new york metro area. What is your goal . How do you think about this . What do you want for oregon . What is acceptable to you . I think there are a couple of pieces that are really important to me. We honestly want to keep the infection rates down low and more importantly we want to protect our most vulnerable communities. That includes our seniors, our elders, particularly those living in longterm care facilities. We want to protect our communities of color, our africanamerican community, our latino community, our native American Communities have all been particularly hardhit by this disease. So we want to reduce transmission. We want to make sure that we have an adequate supply of hospital beds in the event of a spike, and we want to protect our health care workers. We have communities around the state, including eastern oregon, that have very limited capacity in terms of health care workers. We want to make sure that we have adequate capacity. But were also asking, chris, i i ask oregonians to be kind and be smart. Were asking each and every oregonian to wear a Face Covering when they go out in public. And you can see folks have gotten quite creative. Yes. This is the sale. On the back we have big foot and the state douglas fur. Thats beautiful. This is a great way for people to protect themselves, neighbors and essential workers. We all should be wearing Face Coverings when we go out in public. Particularly ones with state pride. Governor kate brown of oregon, thank you so much for your time tonight. Great to see you. Im joined now by the managing director of clinical transformation. She was a former senior white house add viviser and primary c physician. What is your reaction when you see those two stories. There is a story in ohio and a story in Orange County of essentially this political backlash, these town meetings you would see over a town zoning proposal. Very angry people that effectively chased Public Health officials out of their position. Well, its completely unfortunate and unnecessary, chris, and honestly it is because theyre following the example from the top. I mean, we have, as you pointed out, at our highest levels of leadership, we have people who are just blatantly ignoring a preventable illness. I emphasize that because all the things you just talked about with the governor are ways to prevent the deaths that are occurring. Well, but there is also something on the other side of this, right . Which is, you know, the ultimate total prevention is complete lockdown. That worked in a lot of places. It brought the epidemic down. The question we all have now is like how to have something thats not locked down that isnt where we dont just say, well, were just going to accept a thousand dead americans a day or 800 dead americans a day and what those tradeoffs look like. It does seem to me the data increasingly points to masks as a key part of that strategy. There has been mixed messages saying dont worry about masks. The data has shown more and more i think its fair to say clustering around the conclusion that masks really matter. What is your read of that right now . I think its as you pointed out, even i was in that category of people in february who did not think that a large part of this transmission was from airpo particles or somethi as close as talking. Now as you hear about super spreaders in close contact with others who have spread the virus, we now know that masks, and i emphasize that masks just protect others from you. Right. So i think thats why. And also not all masks are created equal. The n95 mask that i use as a health care worker, it is called n95 because it prevents about 95 of small particles like the coronavirus from coming through and a surgical mask like you see people wearing in kind of every day kind of health care prevents about 70 . And then a homemade face mask or Something Like what the governor showed you is going to get a lot less. Its not zero, but its not 95 , chris. What i think is important is actually putting this in context with the other things, physical distancing, hand hygiene. If i had to emphasize that more than anything it is that people are also getting lax about all of those things combined. They are. Final question for you, you talked about super spreader events. We have seen big outdoor parties. We have seen protests around the nation. A lot of protesters Wearing Masks but not all. People in close quarters. Again, outdoors. Those are cause for some considerable concern. But given everything we know, an indoor rally, and i dont know what the plan is, if theyre going to do it at half capacity and have people spaced out and maybe require masks, maybe, but a packed indoor facility with people yelling and screaming and cheering next to each other without masks does sound like a worst Case Scenario for a super spreading event. Is that a fair read of the signs . No, thats not only is it a fair read, but we have evidence that thats exactly how we are getting these, quote, super spreader events whether it is in a choir, in a church, at a party. We know that this is just a setup for disaster. Chris, if you add into that people that have chronic conditions. We know that obesity and age are also critical factors and doing worse with covid. All you need for graphic proof is that recent Lung Transplant that a patient had in chicago that you had a completely healthy set of lungs that completely went to zero all because of covid. This is not rhetoric. Its science. Just have the rallies outside. For the love of god, please. Thank you very much. Next, after more than two weeks of nationwide protests following the death of george floyd, were seeing day by day more and more policy changes. The work that still needs to be done, after this. That still ne done, after this sorry im late, everybody, and apologies for my appearance. You look fine. We were just talking about yeah, right. I look like a wanted poster. I didnt have time to get my beard routine in this morning, so. What beard routine . Ah. Well, the key is maple nectar. Gives it that sheen. Is there something wrong with my screen . Mnhmnh. Jamie, what are talking about . Youre right, alan. We should be talking about bundling home and auto with progressive, not this luscious mane of mine. [ laughs ] jamie, do you know what a beard is . Weve always put safety first. And we always will. For people. For the future. And there has never been a summer when its mattered more. 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