Extra meaning to that. I dont know a better word to use. Good morning and welcome to a. M. Joy. Offering some free advice to donald trump, plug the leaks in his leaky administration by conducting a government wide purge of all political appointees who worked in the federal government while barack obama was president. Well, it seems that trump was already one step ahead of his congressional supporter because a half hour after king said those words, the attorney general Jeff Sessions ordered the immediate resignation of all 46 u. S. Attorneys remaining from the obama era. That includes. Hes the manhattan u. S. Attorney that expected to remain in his post after donald trump asked him about staying back in november. The surprise fiergz follow a january purge at the state departments of its Senior Leadership and a abrupt reassignment of career Civil Servants at state last month. That paranoia and people who worked in the federal government during the obama era and members of what breitbart world calls the deep state. Might be conspiring behind the scenes to undermine and sabotage the Trump Administration both through leaks and something more stinster, illegal nixon style wiretapping starts all the way at the very top as we saw last saturday with Donald Trumps weird out of the blue tweets claiming without any evidence whatsoever that he was secretly wiretapped at trump tower by barack obama. King added his own bizarre twist with the claim that trump was wiretapped not only before the election in trump tower in new york, but also during his presidency in the white house. Listen. We believe that President Trump was wiretap in his conversation with the president of mexico, wiretap again with his conversation with Prime Minister of australia and fairly definitive stories about the pfizer warrants being all right. Joining us now our panel. Thank you all for being here. Joel, im going to start right here at the table with you. These conspiracy theories that bribe was somehow ordering the ongoing hacking or wiretapping of donald trump and i guess doing it from hawaii or new york or wherever he is, hes apparently a ninja in addition to being a former president. What do you make of this . Is this donald trump misreading something thats actually happening . There are other sort of interesting figures in trump tower and that hes just misexplaining it . Or do you think that he genuinely believe that former president obama is wiretapping him . I think theres a bigger dynamic. The problem with donald trump as president of the United States you have access to the best information in the world. You have access to more information than anything, any one in the world and he seems to react things he reads on breitbart or some where else and what that does is create chaos and i dont think its always planned chaos, i think it undermines his credibility at the time when the most important thing for him to be doing as a president who got elected with a low approval rating, low trust ratings is to be rebuilding credibility. And part of what he also seems to be doing, jack rice, is using the what he and hannity and breitbart call the deep state as a way to essentially undermine American Trust in our own institutions in the government but he is in the government. Ive never seen a white house try to work to destabilize American Trust in the government and his source of information, his sources appear to be not only things like breitbart. Com, not only sort of conspiracy theories but the tv. He seems to be being spoken to through the tv and given suggestions and then executing them. Let me listen to Shawn Hannity. This was his a plok on thursday night on his show on fox news that sounds suspiciously what wound end up happening on friday. For weeks weve been warning you about the deep state obama holdover government bureaucrats who are hell pent on destroying this president. Its time for the Trump Administration to begin to purge these sab tours before its too late. You have Shawn Hannity telling him to purge the sabateurs. And then Donald TrumpsAdministration Starts purging people they think are the sabateurs i guess. Yeah, im more concerned about a russian mold than the deep state. We need to really look at whats going on here. You look at the connections between the russians and paul manafort, the connections between the russians and mike flynn, the connections between sessions, between kushner, the list goes on and on and on and our problem is we have no idea about the connections between the president himself and the russians because he wont release his taxes. If this is about an investigation and this is about transparency and he wants to complain about the conspiracies around the world, fine. Then lets just open it up, lay it out and figure it out. How about that . I know its not shocking but there we are. But the thing is that there are investigations that are cooking on capitol hill, but it does appear that at least a lot of republicans are taking the bait that the Trump Administration is putting out. Were going to investigate but were not going to investigate donald trump and his teams ties to the russia. Lets listen to devin nunes for making an excuse for why donald trump doesnt understand the government. He should in theory be leading an investigation of trumps ties to russia. Is that a proper thing for the president to do . He wasnt asking open questions, he made declarative statement that the former president wiretapped him. As you all know the president a knee owe fight to politics. Hes been doing this a little over a year and i think a lot of things that he says you guys sometimes take literally. Sometimes he doesnt have 27 lawyers and staff looking at what he does. Rosa, shouldnt he have 27 lawyers and staff looking at what he does . He certainly should. There are a couple of ironies heres. One is this wiretapping allegation, either hes nuts and its completely crazy or he is somehow deemly aware of something going on in the Justice Department in which he or one of his crohn niz is being investigated for something criminal and he shouldnt have access. If thats the case he obviously should not have access to wiretap transcript and the Justice Department has not denied the possibility that there is some kind of Ongoing Investigation that may have encompassed trump or his campaign aides. Either his nuts or there is something fairly bad going on which he should be worried about but he has nothing to do with political vengeance from obama. The other thing that always just drives me nuts when i hear this stuff about the deep state and purges is, you know, there is no deep state. There are public servants, many of whom have worked hard their entire lives on behalf of the United States of america and it really makes me angry when people Start Talking about them as if theyre the enemy. We have a government for a reason. Our government does things for us like make sure we have a military, make sure were safe, make sure we have education and hospitals and highways and i really wish that the president would stop acting like we can get rid of it and its all evil. As somebody we could say it a former member of the deep state, we all have to interrogate you all before you leave the studio, that is the thing is that you now have not just regular Conspiracy Theory rifts who are reading breitbart. Com saying there is this deep State Government conspiracy. Youre the president of the United States actually working to undermine trust in government from within. Were going to talk have you ever heard of a president doing that before . No. Its never been done. We have a Conspiracy Theory president and im not even sure whether you can put those three words together in a tangible sentence and use the word president. He seems to be buying every crazy idea thats out there. Now, granted, the man cant seem to tell the truth about anything and the worse part is like jennifer rubeen wrote an article, the questioning whether he could actually determine what was real and what was false in his world. This is dangerous. And as much as is sounds amusing, he controls 4,000 atomic weapons. He controls the levers of power in the United States. If hes going out with steve king and other in congress and saying that the president of the the former president of the United States wiretapped a conversation he had a few weeks ago with the president of australia, i mean we have got a very serious problem here. This man may be in a position where he will start causing true harm to american democracy because he doesnt know the difference between what american democracy is and the crazy things which hes told by people like steve bannon and other parts of the, you know, right world. I think actually that is a very important point to make because you do have a president who is surrounded by sort of an alt state and that is this group of bannonites i dont know what you call them. They want this Christian White nationalistic edge noe state and people like stiefel bannon, people like sebastian and Michael Anton there is a core of people around donald trump who want him to complete believing conspiracy theories who want him to essentially believe president obama can wiretap him from hawaii or wlfr he happens to be. They want him to believe conspiracy theories. Absolutely. The challenge for every president in being successful is having people around you who will tell you the hard truths not feed you the things you want to hear. Youre ultimately as george w. Bush said hes the decider and to have a president who cant distinguish between whats real, whats fact and what isnt is very dangerous particularly in the times were living in and i think these are the things that are going to cause the biggest problems for donald trump going forward. Hes got to understand which he doesnt seem to right now what this job is all about, what it requires to do it well and intelligently and if he keeps thinking its about having rallies and running a campaign, its great to drive your message but youre now the leader of the free world and he hasnt acted like that day in and day out after being inaugurated. Are you worried theres no one around him like that to counter balance the bannon ring . Who is there to be the jim baker and balance out the madness thats being fed to this obviously conspiracy minded president . Thats a void or people like karen hues who were there for george w. Bush or David Axelrod or david plouffe, people who would stand up to the president and say to him, no, sir this is not the right course. Its ultimately the president s decision. Hes the reality, heres the set of facts you have to base your decision on. Ultimately the president has to decide but theyre not even considering what the facts are each day. He goes out and shoots from the hip. Thats the most dangerous thing to have in the president of the United States. Just had members of congress go to cia themselves. What might they will the cia give members of congress the real raw truth are they concerned that might end up leaking . Is there a quote unquote, background part of the Intelligence Community that might be afraid to fully brief congress or the president because they dont know whether itll end up on the front page of brigeitbartbreitbart. Com . They need to be concerned. They just have to lay out whats really going on, the pron is its been twisted, and tweaked and torqued around at the white house p. What we need to be established is this is the truth. This is what we see. This is what is objectively going on out there and you have to put it out. If youre going to be a pro, you got to be a pro. This is the case whether youre in the Intelligence Community or a journalist. Youre finding that the white house is attacking both and as a result the only true response is to be the most professional that you can be to establish whats happening and then let it lay out as its going to. Its the only way to approach Something Like this. All of our guests are going to come back and jack rice gets the prize for saying torqued. The first time our torqued was said on our show. Oh, gees. Thanks a lot of allowed. Coming up, connecting the dots. Trump russia style more on that after this. Ive found a permanent escape from monotony. Together, we are perfectly balanced. Our senses awake. Our hearts racing as one. I know this is sudden, but they say. If you love something set it free. See you around, giulia everything your family touches sticks with them. Make sure the germs they bring home dont stick around. Use clorox disinfecting products. Because no one kills germs better than clorox. Termites. Were on the move. Hey rick, all good . Oh ya, were good were good. Terminix. Defenders of home. This week california representative Eric Swalwell connected the dot between donald trump, his associates and russia. With this handy dandy chart. Now if all the names and web of russia ties have let you confused lets start by focusing at the guy on the far right of that chart, Vladimir Putin and ask yourself, what might he stand to gain from that web of connections to donald trump . To answer that question, lets go back to what we believed have been putins primary goals as stated in the still unsubst. Ed dossier. Goal number one, the lifting of u. S. Sanctions against russia that were imposed over russians invasion of crimea. One of the names on that chart felix saider is believed to have been one of the primary architects of a peace plan for ukraine and russia that could have in theory paved the way for trump to get those sanctions lifted. It was hand delivered to the office of Michael Flynn by long time trump lawyer michael cohen. The plan leaked to the New York Times last month and even republicans have made it clear that they would stand in the way of lifting sanctions against russia. Then theres putins long time mission to underlie the United States as a leader in western democracy. And what better way to do that but to undermine two of the agencies, the state department and cia. Will well, the state Department Just happens to be headed by former exxonmobil ceo and recipients of award. Wikileaks. Virtual a bomb on the u. S. Releasing more than hacked documents from the cias ability to spy through smartphones and televisions to alleging the agency is part of an evil conspiracy to damage, wait for it, russia. So how close is russia to getting what it wants oust trump world . And before we get to the russia of it all we talked about Michael Flynn there. Who we now find out was not only quite sweet on Vladimir Putin sitting at his table, taking maybe we dont know how much money to be an analyst but also russia allied turkey. We now know that the daily caller of all people has reported that flynn paid some of the former fbi agents behavioral analysts in lobby work for the turkish government. We also know the Associated Press has revealed that the Trump Transition Team knew that flynn might register as a Foreign Agent because he was lobbying for turkey while he was working for the Trump Campaign. We know they know that because a letter was sent to Vice President elect in november warning about flynn, Lieutenant General flynns robert kelly confirmed they were hired by a Foreign Company when asked when the whether had been hired because of flynns close ties to president elect trump. Mr. Kelly responded. I hope so. What do you make over this debackle . I am torn in thinking, yes, this is a vast russian conspiracy, when russians allies influence or destabilize russian politics and thinking this is the usual story of corruption, greed and ikts. It looks like mike flynn got out of government and he immediately started trying to cash out and he was not very scrupulous about who hed take money from. Yet another irony is the company that was paying him to do all this, the company with ties to the turkish government and in turn ultimately to russia, they want some of their money back because they dont think flynns firm did such a great job. I dont know. I think im a little bit coming down when it comes to Michael Flynn on the side of greed and incompetence. He keeps getting fired. He got hired by russia today and now apparently the turks want to fire him too. Lets talk about the other entity that keeps swirling around trump world and that is wikileaks. Theyve released a cache of documents damaging u. S. Intelligence efforts. Its going to make it harder to collect on terrorists, on the russians, you name it. At what point, asang is not some defender of freedom, hes an antiu. S. And prorussia whatever you want to call it. I think we start back on july 23rd when both i and ball krugman wrote an article in the New York Times calling wikileaks out i made Media Statement calling them a russian laundry mat. They are a wholly own subsidiary of russian intelligence and they have no problem releasing things in timed releases that benefit only two entities, do