That. But lets get to the real Heart Of The Matter you are connected to the president because youre on his evangelical council. The fact is many of those countries like haiti are in the worst situations because of governments that are not taking care of their own people. We are talking about people leaving their own country and Coming To America when in reality President Trump clearly ran on a make America Great again policy, which is why he won. Americans want people, if they do come to america, to offer something that will be better for america, not just simply send people who because of their weak, broken governments, dishonorable in a lot of ways governments in some of these countries who are not taking care of their own people. The bible says that a person is worst than an infidel when they refuse to take care of their own people of their own kind. I believe President Trump was saying it is clear that we love thy neighbor. People say, pastor what about love thy neighbor. We love our neighbors. We send hundreds of millions of dollars of aid to men in these countries and these corrupt government is, and leaders taking advantage of the people that are there. Even the clintons who allegedly stole millions and millions of dollars from the Earthquake Relief Fund i see you looking crazy, joy. Im just listening to you. Everybody can do a quick meme and they can say look at what joy looks like on television. We do love thy neighbor. We do help. We dont leave people test put. Those millions of dollars could be Coming To America to help other minorities in our own country. Can i get a word in edgewise . It is your show. You quoted first timothy 5 through 8, and that verse refers to a man who would not take care of his own family and immediate
family. Sure. Im a church girl. I used to Teach Sunday School in denver, colorado. I love a bible verse myself. Hold on talk more about jesus on your show. I will quote the word of the lord. Isaiah 10 2, in the bible says whoa to though who enact evil statutes and who constantly record unjust decisions so to deprive the needy of justice so that widows may be their spoil and they may plunder orphans. The bible verse you talked about talking about caring for ones own family and immediate family. This bible verse that is repeated much more in the bible talks about caring for the least of these widows and orphans. You talked about haiti, specifically not caring for its own people. A golfment that vernment that i. How can you justify sending people back to such a country . How can you as a man of god
justify sending people back to that country. This is not about sending people back. This is what Donald Trumps policy is. We the deeds is answer my question first. The deeds are this, words are answer my question first. Wait a second. Hold on a second. Were not talking about sending africanamericans to haiti. Time out. Time out. Am joy. Time out. Time out. Joy, this is the i will get an answer to my question before you do another i let you talk for a long time. How do you justify, sir, youre the one who said that this is about trumps deeds. Trumps deed is to revoke and send people back to haiti, a country you said is illequipped to take care of its own people. Its not the responsibility of the United States of america to be the United States of the global world. This is the United States of america. You, joy, i am american. The president of the United States job, i had vhis vow and s to protect and defend the constitution of the United States and the citizens of the United States. Now, we are not leaving those people to die. Were sending aid. Youre sending them to die. Were sending millions of dollars. Let me say let me ask you a question. You dont have to ask me questions, when im on your show you can ask whatever you want. Your party wants to cut the aid. Your party doesnt believe in foreign aid. Wouldnt that money do good for other africanamericans . Lets talk about the black mothers and fathers. Okay. I think you are now are you then advocating for universal healthcare to make sure those black mothers and fathers in this country have healthcare . Lets talk about the nfl, and people not getting their money. The nfl . What does the nfl have to do
with universal healthcare in america. Lets talk about black people in america. Were talking about black people in haiti. Lets talk about black people in america. I have one more question. Theres one thing that the president and i do disagree with. Thats good. I disagree that i dont think we need more more reference to his norwegian Immigration Policy. I dont think we need more white liberals Coming To America. I think we need to share it all. When we open the door, as we open the door, we dont need more white liberals coming to the country. Are you saying that you want to have a policy based on Peoples Ideology . Norwegians have been quite clear they dont want to come up here. This is america, joy. Youre on youre on i know where i love. One more question. I will attempt to get an answer to it. Black people in america are suffering. Im one of them. I knows there plenty of black people here. So am i. Theyre suffering. So were talking about haiti. What is the role one more question. I will give you one more chance
to answer my question, then well be done here. Youre wasting my time when you talk over me and dont answer my question. Youre wasting my time. Then goodbye. Lets bring in our panel. We have tara dowdell. Karine jeanpierre, and maria kumar. I will throw it out to the panel. I dont know i got an answer to my question on whether or not the u. S. Role in the world is keved by sending people from specifically haiti back to a country that pastor burns says is substandard, ill equipped and cannot take care of its own people. You are of haitian background. Can you make sense of that, Karine Jeanpierre . I cant make sense of anything he just said. Its troubling the words he used, the comments he made. Lets be clear. I think he and donald trump need
to go through a History Lesson of this country, of the United States, and also countries of haiti, especially if youre talking about people in the way hes talking about haiti. Hate pi haditi had a successful independence, their independence encouraged the Freedom Movement for south america. Another thing he needs to understand, the pastor and donald trump need to understand is that haiti has been exploited and governed by the United States in the past. Its troubling when you have people who call themselves a pastor, a person who is in the white house who doesnt have any time of understanding of history at all. Also haiti contributed so much to this country. I want to go back to the top when you were talking about racism, if donald trump said those things or not with the pastor. Look, if it walks like a duck
if it walks like a racist, talks like a racist, acts like a racist, its a racist. We have a racist president in the white house who pushes his racism like a peacock. Its clear how he feels about immigration. He puts basically a sign on the Statue Of Liberty saying whites only. No one else need to apply. Its troubling, and i really throw this to the republicans out there on the hill, what are you going to do . Are you really going to continue to embrace all this Racism Policies that the president puts forth . Is that what youre going to do . You know, its going to be troubling. Next week will be an important week because we have the cr coming forth, and democrats and republicans need to make sure that the d. R. E. A. M. Act is included. Absolutely. Pastor mark burns who does not believe in taking care my brothers keeper, being thy
brothers keeper said we need to have witnesses in the room to tell us what happened. No, i was not in the room. Let me play somebody who was. Senator dick durbin of illinois, the only person so far who had the guts to come out and say to camera rwhat happened in that room, and no one has yet to call him a liar. Here he is on friday telling us what happened in the room. Youve seen the comments in the press. Ive not read one of them thats inaccurate. He went on and started to describe the immigration from africa being protected in this bipartisan measure. Thats when he used this vile and vulgar comments calling the nations they come from shitholes. The exact word used by the president. Not more, not just once, but repeatedly. That was the nature of this conversation. You know, evan, you are republican. Thats true. You know the policy of the Republican Party not just donald
trump is at present to limit immigration, particularly limit immigration from noneuropean countries. Mitt romney said selfdeportation. Donald trump, not his words, to pastor burns commentary, but his deeds are more deportation, fewer immigrants that are not european, apparently more norwegians. Wonder why he wants that. What do you make of those comments made in the oval office . Is there a way back for donald trump from having said that. Donald Trump Campaigned on making America Great again. He wants other countries to respect us. Now hes being going around the country saying other countries now respect us. No, they dont respect us when youre willing to insult other countries and people from there. I think that its not making America Great again. Its making america look weak. Like we have an insecure bully leading us. One big problem we have is that World Leaders look at donald trump and think this is not a guy playing with a full deck in terms of he doesnt understand
what the situations are. He doesnt even know whats all in the Foreign Policy circles the rule of five. When you talk about one country, it affects four other countries. He doesnt consult with them, our allies are upset. As a conservative one thing that attracted me to the movement is how we talked about morals and stand up for people who were treated badly and how we would push back against coarse language. The president of the United States is the top of that. What happens when i go to somebody from nigeria, haiti, and say i actually care about you . Donald trump is the prism in which the Republican Party is viewed through. Theyll see me as another racist. When we come back, ill let the rest of the panel in one big
irony of all this is that the Republican Party seems to believe in a grand and big role in the world for america, and that america had more leadership to exert around the world. We heard from Donald Trumps pastoral advisers, Reverend Burns, was no, the only obligation of the american president is to zero in on our interests in the United States and to hell with the rest of the world. Thats an interesting way to make America Great again. My panel is sticking around. More am joy coming up. Whooo yeah mmmmm. Want some . Its good, its refreshing. This is what our version of Financial Planning looks like. Tomorrow is important, but shes only seven once. Spend your life living. Find an advisor at northwesternmutual. Com. Running a Small Business is demanding. And thats why Small Business owners need more. Like internet thats up to the challenge. The gigspeed network from Comcast Business gives you more. With speeds up to 20 times faster than the average. That means powering more devices, more video conferencing, and more downloads in seconds, not minutes. Get Fast Internet and add phone and tv for only 34. 90 more per month. Comcast is building americas largest gigspeed network to give Small Businesses more. Call 18005016000 today. Mr. President , are you a racist . Mr. President , will you respond to these serious questions about the statement, sir . Mr. President , are you a racist. One day after making unde undeniably racist comments, trump ignored shouted questions from april ryan about whether or not he is a racist. This occurred moments after he signed a proclamation honoring dr. Martin luther king jr. As we often say about this presidency, you cannot make this stuff up. Were back with our guests. We will get everybody in. I will start at the table. Mari maria, i will let you respond to it all. Last night i said im concerned about three other words that the president said that no one is disputing, which is take them out. Because what that means in terms of policy on the ground. In response to the pastor, you know, i wish that he would take his flock to the many multiple immigrant detention centers, immigrant detention camps, because they are filled with africans and haitians. People think its just mexicans like me. No, no, no. Its filled with people from there. So this notion of were prote protecting our own, no, no, no, these are our people. They are, in fact, being rounded up and they are being placed into these no one has seen them. Ive been thinking about this. You dont see every night the parade of immigrants that are being detained and then put into these places. You dont see them. Why . So then what happens when the president labels these countries and the people from these countries this terrible word . I was impressed the New York Times had a piece this morning that said theres an International Conversation around the dehumanizing of migrants. Yep. What does that mean . So what that calls upon all of us is to elevate the conversation. This is not like pretend. This is happening now. I feel it urgently. It is very important. We get caught up. Because this is cable tv, the media is sort of zeroing in on that word. Because the fact is the president of the United States speaks in such vulgar terms. Its shocking. But maria makes a point, which is its the policies cha are really at issue here. You had even before donald trump mislabeling all those countries, Mass Deportation was his strategy. Rounding people up. Theyve been deporting young people who have daca despite their status that is supposed to be protected. He yanked tps from haitians, from hondurans, youre talking
about Tens Of Thousands of people that this president wants to deport. He said put me down for wanting more europeans. Theyre trying to exchange nonwhite immigrants for white immigrants, and its the policy that is at issue. Racist believes equal racist policies. Thats the point. Thats why trumps rhetoric is so dangerous and why we need to condemn it forcibly and we need do it over and over again. People say why do you keep talking about this over and over again . The other side of the coin is not only do racist believes drive racist policies, racist believes repeated over and over again in the way donald trump is doing it drives conscious and unconscious bias. Thats the same unconscious bias and conscious boyias that stoia people of color from getting loans, stops people from getting
employed, the same unconscious bias that is tearing families apart. People who were contributing in this country, making this country better, sending them back to countries that are unsafe, that they had the bravery to escape and come here to seek a better life which is the promise of america. Right. I want to make one more point. I heard people say we shouldnt highlight the huge Success Stories. We should highlight the Success Stories of those people, the big Success Stories, because the point of White Supremacy is to demonstrate that people of color, immigrants dont have the ability to do big things. Dont have the Intellectual Riggri rigor to pull off big things. Every time donald trump says this. To be clear, Somebody Listening to pastor burns, maybe not in this audience, someone listening
to pastor burns, what he said will resonate. Unconscious bias will destroy this country, and conscious bias has been the bane of this countrys existence. Donald trump is basically the embodiment of that. Yeah. At the same time, it says on the Statue Of Liberty, give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free. It didnt say give us your highly intellectual blond nor regions, or we can guarantee conservatives. The Doe Humehumanitarianization migrants which is the bigger picture, and brexit, donald trump said before that all haitians, all have aids. And he said that for nigerians, once they seen the United States they would never go back to their huts in africa. This is not a mindset that donald trump did not invent. Theres a mindset in the party that anyone coming to the party
is coming to steal welfare, live off the American People, and that they are a drain on society and its easy to get them out as donald trump says, push them all out. Thats called ignorance, thats what that is called. Any educated, thoughtful good person would disagree with any of