Its time for a. M. Joy with my good friend joy reed. Once i had kids those personal envisions really subsided and i just focused on policy ambitions and it just changed my focus in life from career to family and im speaker of the house. I wasnt necessarily planning this but whats important to me is my family and i believe i can be a great policy maker advocating for the believes and the ideals that i have without sacrificing my higher priority which is just to have a good family life. Well, happy fathers day and welcome to a. M. Joy. To borrow a phrase from rachel maddow, watch what they do, not what they say. Ryan and many of his fellow republicans, the party that used to lay claim of being the party of family values are indeed many of them fathers and mothers and grandparents and they say theyre opposed to the Trump Administrations policy of separating Migrant Children from their parents. The religious leaders have come out and said this is unhumane. Do you agree . We dont want kid separated from their parents. I think this is a terrible situation id like to fix. And yet the immigration bill touted by the house gop leadership only so paul ryan can avoid an embarrassing discharge petition forced through by members of the house doesnt even outlaw family separation. There is no long waj ianguage il that puts away with the separation of families. It leaves the door open for migrant families to be detained together indefinitely. The bill would also fulfill a trumpian wish list of immigration restrictions which the president has made clear he wants to trade for the separated children. Curbs on family reunification an end to the visa lottery and of course funding for the border wall which candidate promised his fans that mexico would pay for, but they wont. Unlike a handful of republicans in congress, members of the Trump White House express no misgivings about the policy. And according to the New York Times both chief of staff john kelly and Steven Miller have long advocated a hard line approach to migrant families with kelly floating the idea of separating parents and children as early as march of 2017. Ask steve bannon and it becomes clear that this is what they have always wanted to do. We ran on a policy very simply to stop mass immigration. Get our sovereign for back and to help our workers and so he went to a zero tolerance policy. s a crime to come across illegally and children get separated. I hate to say it. Thats the law. Since republicans wont do it that leaves democrats to advocate for these Migrant Children. Senator from oregon whose first attempt to visit ation center went viral is returning today. In less than an hour from now congressman and texas Senate Hopeful is leading amare to a tent city set up to handle the overflow of Migrant Children due to the Trump Administrations zero tolerance policy. The question is, can protests force the Trump Administration to back down and stop separating migrant parents and kids . Perhaps starting on fathers day. Joining me now, president and ceo of voter latino. Kyla long, and from mcallen texas, msnbc correspondent. I want to start with you. You spoke with a woman who had been separated from her 18yearold. I want to play a little bit of that interview that you did. When was was your son taken from you . Translator right after he crossed the border. They took my son and i never saw him again. What did they tell you . Translator they didnt say anything about where they were taking him. Tell me how this feels when your child is taken from you. I cried the whole way here. Its very hard to watch that interview and its hard to believe that anyone seeing that couldnt be completely moved, distraught to think that this is what, you know, the United States of america is doing to families. Give us a ltle bit more of your reporting on on what these families are going through. Do they even have the opportunity to find out where their kids are . Joy, in the case of myriam, that mother who you saw was holding her oneyearold girl, emily, she was completely distraught because she knew nothing of her 18yearold son anderson. She didnt even know where he was or if she could talk to him on the phone, when would be the next time she would be able to see him and for that family specifically, it was especially heart breaking because anderson, the son, had turned 18 four days after crossing the border illegally. Theyre from honduras, fleeing Gang Violence. Extremely high levels of violence in that triangle in central america. Honduras, salvador, two of those countries have been called the murder capital of the world for a reason. So these families are already reaching the southern border traumatized only to find out that now they have to deal with family separation. Ive also talked to young kids who have been separated from their adult male fathers inside detention, joy. One little kid specifically, ramon, four years old who was separated from his dad inside detention for five days and he told me he cried himself to sleep every night asking immigration officials, wheres my dad, wheres my dad, holding on to this little wrinkled piece of paper that had a phone number. It was the only belonging that he had left from, you know, his home country and even though separation in detention especially as it comes to adult male fathers and boys did happen under obama, these interviews have given me a glimpse at the trauma that these children and these parents especially the fathers on a day like today, fathers day are having to endure and again, the trauma doesnt start when they reach the u. S. Border. It begins in their home countries and making that long trek north through mexico to finally reach the u. S. Border hoping to get some relief, some respi respite. Are their attorneys present . Do you is there any activity, aclu, is there anyone trying to intervene other than these members of congress that are coming down on behalf of these families . Do they have legal advice . So Congress Members will actually be protesting in front of the cbc facility. That is a fathers day protest slated for 2 00 p. M. Eastern today. But i spoke to more than two dozen families who many of whom have been separated in detention and they really had no legal advice saivicadvice. Save for these nuns. They dont even speak the language. They needed instructions to how to get on the bus wit their ankle bracelets. Most of them will show up at immigration courts in the coming days and they consider themselves the few lucky ones because at least they were reunited with their children after being released for further immigration proceedings from these detention centers, but they know that, you know, other families arent so lucky and again, especially on a day like today, you have to think about the children and the parents at the core of this crisis. Almost 2,000 separated in the span of six weeks, just even in the Southern District courts here according to the federal public defenders office, over 350 children were taken from their families just in a twoweek span of june because right around the corner from here is the federal courthouse and i in that courthouse on friday. There are no cameras allowed inside but thats where you really saw this zero tolerance policy at work. Mass prosecutions, less than a minute per case, guilty, guilty, guilty, all first time offenders people who cross the border illegally fleeing Gang Violence but really little time for each case and dozens of families that were separated. Im going to ask you to stay for a moment. I want to bring in clara long. The Washington Post has reported, clara, that the chief of the rio grand valley Border Patrol has said this is going to increase. Manuel whos a Border Patrol chief told the Washington Post on thursday that his agents had separated 568 parents from children as young as five since the zero tolerance policy was announced on april 6th. That figure represented only half the number of parents who could be prosecuted for entering the country illegally leaving Border Patrol plenty of room to ramp up family accept rations and we were talking with marian that was in the courtroom, an immigrant sobbing as she told the attorney the they took her daughter while she was breastfeeding her child in a the detention center. Taking her child in the midst f obeing breastfed. Its hard to imagine that in modern america, the United States has a history unfortunately but in the modern part of this history, this is unimaginable. Indeed. Theres a reason why human rights law and u. S. Law protect the right to family and the right to be with your family because it is so core to our psychological stability. This is only going to get worse as you raise the prosecutions, the Trump Administration has said that fit wants a zero tolerance policy, 100 prosecutions. But its not there yet. So it means only more families ripped apart. We have a staff member on the ground in texas who spoke with families this week who said they were not given a chance to say goodbye. They were told were taking your child to shower or youll your child after court and when they came back, they were separated. The impact of this cant be overstated. s its horrific. We learned this week courtesy of the New York Times that john kelly has been advocating this very policy since march of 2017 and Steven Miller who we dont talk about much anymore, hes still in the administration. Times reports said that he said no nation can have the policy of whole class that people are immune from immigration or enforcement. He said this past week it was a simple decision by the administration to have a zero tolerance. Hes back. Steven miller. Your thoughts. Absolutely right. John kelly floated this and i started sounding the alarm the moment they floated this because theyre not playing around. They have a zero tolerance because of a policy they implemented, not congress. But i want to go back. Weve been working with organizations on the ground. Tornillo is the first camp where they brought in 98 beds for children. Theyre hoping to expand it to 200 beds in the next week or so. And they purposely chose a place 45 minutes outside of el paso in the middle of nowhere where they couldnt get cameras, where they couldnt get witnesses and today theyre marching. What do people need . They need lawyers. They need people and they need lawyers to basically flood just like they did the airports with the muslim ban, they need lawyers. We have set up a website called stop separation. Orgou can find local resources and local orgizations that need help because they are overwhelmed and they do not have the capacity. So if people want to pitch in they go to stop separation. Org and they can find more information about people on the ground. They can also provide their information and if they are lawyers, please flag that and we will basically, well be able to actually choose funnel them where they need to be. But this policy that the administration is pipesing is not some cruel but the words that theyre using, were going to take your children to showers and be right back. This is history repeating itself. We were the ones that helped craft human rights policy. The u. N. Last week came in and told us that we were violating human rights laws, that set by International Standards that we crafted as americans. We have to make sure that we are present. We cannot let this go down. We are planning a march on june 27th. We hope that everybody will be there. It will be from el paso to tornillo, texas because this cannot go uncontested and sadly the reason is administration is doing this because they have no other policy. Theyre not helping the American People as they should so theyre race baiting and being divisive. But the policy theyre implementing is not we cannot sit idly by. And it stop accept rations with an s. Org . Stop separation. Org. All right. Mariana you wanted to get in. If i may emphasize what maria was saying about the importance of providing these families with legal help, were also talking here about families who are Asylum Seekers. I spoke to a woman and her 11 month old baby. She turned herself in a port of entry to customs and border and she said i want to seek asylum with the United States, which is her international right only to find that the guidelines have changed. Only to find out as jeff session issued new guidelines this past week that now Gang Violence isnt going to be enough to justify these asylum claims. She didnt know the guidelines had changed until i told her yesterday. So this is a 21yearold girl with a 11 month old baby. It took her a month and a half to reach the border. And now shes sitting at this shelter with an ankle bracelet on her foot not knowing if anybody could legally help her or process her asylum claim. And i asked her, what do you know for sure . She said the only thing i know sure is if i go back to honduras ill be killed because the father of my child was helped. The Asylum Seekers and the ones that crossed over illegally but also fleeing those same levels of violence and are now getting their children yanked from their arms. Crossing the border, yes, its a broken law but its considered a misdemeanor. 99 of the people crossing right now, its their first time crossing, its a misdemeanor. F were separating family from children over a misdemeanor charge. They are also separating siblings and letting them only see them once a week. That is cruelty. Im just very quickly under international law, these are particularly people seeking asylum but anyone being separated from their children is cruel and unbelievably cruel, but dont people who present themselves for asylum obtain certain rights, certain legal rights . They certainly should obtain certain rigs its not illegal to seek asylumn a coy. And its not illegal to enter our country to seek asylum. One of the things i think is really important to emphasize here is that the members of congress, the scitizens who are mobilizing around these issues, these abuses are built on top of an already existing structure of abuses. Already the federal criminal Justice System was doing 50 of these prosecutions last year. These prosecutions, these misdemeanor and some felony prosecutions for illegal entry so theres a lot to change here and we need to think about how we can change the structure so that Something Like this cant happen again. Absolutely and while emphasizing the fact that the family separation policy is not the law of the United States. It is the policy of the current administration. Thank you, clara, mariana and more on the most shocking and heart breaking story in america, next. Ive always been about whats next. Im still giving it my best even though i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. So if theres a better treatment than warfarin, im up for that. Eliquis. Eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. Plus has significantly less major bleeding than warfarin. Eliquis is fdaapproved and has both. So whats next . Seeing these guys. Dont stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. Eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. Dont take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. 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I think somethings going on at school. [ sighs ] hes not engaging. Lets discuss the latest on the crisis of family accept rations. Thank you all for being here. Tiffany,t s gift to get through that first block of Television Without crying, quite frankly because you you know, youre talking about taking a breastfeeding child from their mom. It just doesnt get any worst than that. Right . Yeah. And so i wonder just on the politics of this, you have some republicans expressing a discomfort with it. But no republican signing on to the democratic bill that would actually end it. So where are we now in terms of the politics of this . This puts a 25 billion price tag on these undocumented immigrants who are here because what trump is saying if you at any point defect from my border wall im going to rescind any pathway for citizenships for dreamers. Theyre trying to say that this bill would somehow stop families from being separated. It does not do that and i want the audience to understand as well, theres only so much you can do in a republican controlled congress. So there have been some efforts made by democrats to try to stop policies and try to inject some righteousness in this terrible horrific policy that theyve instituted so the caucus leaders, ice agents have gone on greyhound buses to yank families off and separate them there. So the caucus wrote the president of greyhound saying you cant do that. That viola the rights of these people. Congresswoman saying these things arent really happening. Out of seattle washington, she went to visit like 1,600 i think immigrants who were bussed there and these things are absolutely happening just like the correspondents said