A whole new addition. What exactly do we know about him . Not much other than hes a dutch citizen who takes frequent trips to belgium and loves trump. Initially he denied involved but then told nbc news that hyde asked him for information on yovanovitchs whereabouts but he declined saying i informed him its against the law. On friday after the house released messages from de calloway to hyde, he changed his tune admitting in a statement to nbc news he did send messages to hide about yovanovitch. He was not really surveilling her, and it was all, quote, ridiculous banter. And here is another twist. The little we know of him comes from his friend and spokesperson karen turk, a conservative media commentator from palm beach who was just sentenced for a month in prison for stealing her elderly mothers Social Security checks. Perfect. Meanwhile the impeachment trial of donald trump charged right along saturday night. The house impeachment managers submitted their trial brief to the senate laying out their formal case for removing trump from office. Of course, Donald Trumps team responded to the Senate Summons in typical trumpy fashion calling the impeachment charges unlawful and brazen. Joining me now, congresswoman terri sewell a member of the house intelligence committee. Congressman sewell has also endorsed joe biden for president. Congresswoman, thank you for being here. Thank you, joy. I want to start by playing some of your questioning of ambassador marie yovanovitch, and this was during the impeachment inquiry back in november. Take a listen. You spoke about how your service is not just your own personal service, it affects your family. Today weve seen you as this former ambassador, this 33year veteran of the foreign service, but i want to know about you personally and how this has affected you personally and your family. Its been a difficult time. I mean i im a private person. I dont want to put all that out there. Its been a very, very difficult time. Theres a question as to why the kind of campaign to get me out of ukraine happened, because all the president has to do is say he wants a different ambassador. Right. That was the question that i also had for Rachel Maddow in her questioning of lev parnas. Donald trump could have just fired the ambassador, but instead we have Text Messages like these between this robert hyde guy who was a congressional candidate out of connecticut and cant any caluwe saying nothing has changed, hes still not moving. Its confirmed we have a person inside. Shes being surveilled rather than fired. Can you, as a member of congress, understand any reason why that would happen . No, i cant. I want to say thank you so much for allowing me to be on your show today. Im in south carolina, about to attend church as we honor the celebration of Martin Luther king with Vice President biden. Im excited, i think Vice President biden will be the perfect person to protect the legacy of dr. King and my district where people fought, died and bled for the right to vote. Youre absolutely right to be concerned about whats going on in the senate. I think the most important thing we need to focus on is the fact that theres a lot more evidence that can come into play. We need to put the pressure where the pressure deserves to be on, and thats on Mitch Mcconnell and the senators. They can either show their loyalty to donald trump or they can show their loyalty to the constitution and the American People. 71 of the American People know they want a fair trial, and to get a fair trial you have to have witnesses and documents. I think everything weve learned about whats going on behind the scenes with ambassador yovanovitch just goes to show theres still more evidence that needs to be gathered, and we, the American People, deserve to vour senate do its job and have a fair trial. We do know that we now have the state department finally investigating after ukraine also said theyre going to investigate whether or not the ambassador was surveil. The tormenting of her is a strange thin. The other oddity here is the potential somehow involvement of amo members of congress in ts whole thing. That would be devin nunes. Here is lev parnas talking about your colleague on the House Intel Committee devin nunes, the Ranking Member, by the way. Does it strike you as unusual or inappropriate that devin nunes would be one of the lead investigators into this scandal on the house intelligence committee, the Top Republican on this committee . I was in shock when i was watching the hearings and i saw devin nunes sitting up there and there was a picture where derek harvey was in back sitting. I texted my attorney and said i cant believe this is happening. Because . Because they were involved in getting all this stuff on biden. Derek harvey is the aide to def vis nunes who has also been hes in this trunk of documents that lev parnas has turned over as having had communications with lev parnas in this attempt to find dirt on joe biden and his son. The reality is devin nunes is named by lev parnas as having been involved and his aide named. Are you concerned devin nunes is still the Ranking Member of the intel committee, how intel committee, and do you think he should be removed . Joy, im not going to comment on a sitting members of congress, especially a colleague that sits on both committees that i sit on. Im just going to say we all should be concerned about the mounting evidence thats out there. We impeached donald trump four weeks ago. In the laust four weeks so much has come out that deserves to be vetted and to come to the light. I think the American People deserve the trugt. I think we should stay focused on demanding that the Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell do his job and the senator do their job. That needs to be vetted along with a whole bunch of other evidence thats come up in the last four weeks. So we the American People must put the pressure on this president and the republican senators to do their jobs. Youre supporting, obviously, as you mentioned, and as we mentioned at the top of the show, joe biden, former Vice President joe biden for president. But are you concerned with this concerted effort to dig up dirt on him and his family that seems to have been been on going, and seems to go right up to the president of the United States, that joe biden would simply be subjected to the exact same election with foreign interference that Hillary Clinton was and there would be the same result . I think we all should be concerned about foreign interference in our elections. I think the reason why i voted for impeachment and the reason why i think so many of our colleagues felt like it was time to hold this president accountable is because he actually put pressure on a foreign ally by withholding muchneeded aid for his own personal and political gain. The fact that he would use the office of president for his own personal gain should concern all of us, and i think what we in the biden camp as well as all of us as americans should want is a fair election, and to ensure we have a fair election, we have to make sure we dont have foreign interference. I think thats why its important that all of us continue to our job as swiftly and quickly, get this trial on and make sure that its a fair trial. And lets get on with the business of doing what the American People want us to do which is to legislate and to do whats in our best interest. When i think about Election Security which is of quite concern to me, folks in my district fought and bled for the right to vote, we want to make sure every vote is counted. We want to make sure this election is fair for all candidates involved. I think the best way to do that is for congress to put our money where our mouth is. I think its important. What im asking really quickly, and i am out of time, is joe biden uniquely vulnerable here because hes the target of this campaign . Is he uniquely vulnerable as a candidate . Absolutely. I think the fact that this president saw Vice President biden as a big threat is why he did all of the things, in an effort to get dirt on Vice President biden. But i think we have to rise above this and show to the American People that he is the best candidate to beat the person who has put his own personal gain above the American People. I think thats the case we have to make to the american public, and i do believe that Vice President biden is the best person to do that. Thank you very much for coming on and making the case, congresswoman terri sewell. Thank you. Joining me, former Florida Republican congressman Carlos Curbelo. Lets talk about lev parnas for a moment. I want to show you this photo of Carlos Curbelo with someone you know well, with you lev parnas with you. How well did you know lev parnas and what was his role in politics in the state of florida that you know of . Good morning, joy. Lev parnas came to my office in the spring of 2018. He was interested in cannabis reform legislation because apparently he was pursuing a license in the state of nevada or wanting to engage in some kind of cannabis business. He came with igor fruman to my office on two occasions, to discuss that issue. Never did he discuss ukraine with me. I had no idea that any of this was going on. But i did get to know him a little bit. Mr. Parnas was very boastful about his kwloes relationshclos with the president , the president s associates, Rudy Giuliani and others. He told me on one occasion he would be having dinner with the president later that week. Of course, at the time i didnt know if that was true or not. There are a lot of people who make all sorts of claims in politics, but now, as more and more information becomes available, i do realize that, yes, mr. Parnas indeed was in this web of Trump Associates and apparently was very involved in this ukraine pressure campaign. Lets play adam schiff talking robert hyde did you know robert hyde by the way . No. So robert hyde was a congressional candidate, a wanna be in the trump orbit, too. Here he is accusing congressman adam schiff of planting this new character that weve learned about, anthony the other transcripts from the guy i was talking to that i think adam schiff put there to [ bleep ] with me. Why does everybody say the calowe, whoever he is. Honestly i have no ties to ukraine. I dont know even know if lev is ukrainian. Hes probably the only one i know or knew. I urge everyone to to ask adam schiff for the other side of those transcripts. In fairness, lets play adam schiff talking about this cast of characters in his own right. Here he is moments ago on abc. Here is adam schiff. It is the fact with many of the people surrounding the president they end up indicted. These are the people the president has chosen to work with, people like michael cohen, lev parnas, paul manafort. These are people that do have information about the president s misconduct. Right now, george, we dont know what witnesses will be allowed and even if well be allowed witnesses. We cant really make a determination on which witnesses will call in the absence of knowing whether the senate will allow any at all. A lot of these are interestingly enough, florida characters. Lev parnas is, roger stone, these characters who wind up indicted, wind up in trouble as adam schiff said. What do you make of that . Why do you think there is this nexus of this cast of characters swirling around donald trump and florida . The florida angle i hope is just a coincidence, being from the miami area, which, by the way, lev parnas lives in south florida as well. I certainly hope its nothing in the water down here. But from what i can tell, lev parnas is someone who probably accidentally ended up in this world and once he got into it he was consumed by it. He probably, and i could tell from our conversations, felt very important or privileged to be in contact with all of these high attention individuals and sure enough, he got in trouble. He got burned like a lot of other people weve seen that somehow get involved in trump world. So here is other thing ill say about him. I find him to be credible. I think everything hes saying is true. When he sat in my office and was boasting, i wasnt sure. But now that more and more evidence has surfaced, it does seem that mr. Parnas was in Constant Contact with a lot of people in trump world, that he had access to the president at least on a number of occasions and that he was thrilled by that until it ended up costing him. What do you make of the fact that the members of your party who are still in elected office seem completely unfased by the sheer number of the president of the United States associates indicted, convicted and jailed, the growing number of felons hes surrounded himself with, and this scandal that involved breaking the law which prohibited the president from not dispensing aid as congress authorized it to be dispensed. The growing sense of criminality around this president , it doesnt seem to bother your colleagues in congress. What do you make of that . Joy, our politics have become so polarize z and so tribalized, it is more than obvious that a lot of members of congress have forgotten that congress is an independent coequal branch of congress. No Congressional Committee should be an extension of any administration, republican or democrat. Again, people have become so fan nat sized that congress, the most important constitution in our government, the article 1 institution in the constitution appears to have lost its independence, its ability to process information objectively and render a fair verdict. Very quickly before we go, lev par nas called the trump world, really the Republican Party, its all the trump world, a cult. Would you agree with that characterization . Thats along the lines of what i just described. Our politics have become so tribalized that people are just about defending their side. Certainly thats been apparent in the last few weeks here with many congressional republicans. Carlos curbelo, thank you so much. 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