Do. I hear in the film Merrill Streep is great as kim jung un. Review of scandals finds major failures in the security net around the white house. There is always room for improvement and in this case i believe based on the recommend algzs that there a number of things we can and should do to improve the way they conduct business. No more rapport. Stephen colbert as an allstar send off. If this is your first time tuning into the colbert report, i have terrible news. We begin with breaking news. The fbi named north korea in the sony Cyber Attacks adding in the statement that north koreas actions were intended to inflict harm on a u. S. Business and suppress the right of citizens to express themselves. Such acts of intimidation fall outside the bounds of acceptable behavior. Now the group guardians of peace released this message to sony executives. Its very wise that you made the decision to cancel the interview, the film of course. It will be useful for you. We have your private and sensitive data. We ensure security unless you make additional trouble. The threat ining statement there. The administration is considering a proportional response. They are expected to discuss the hack in the next hour at the white house. Joining me now with much more is Pete Williams. Pete, we have been hearing that white house officials, you reported at the white house and fbi officials believed it was north korea. To those who they say how do they know, lets go to what you know they are reporting. Sure, andre a. Its three things. Its interesting that this comes from the fbi. They dont say they suspect north korea and they are always guarded on words they used in cases like this. They say they now conclude that north korea was behind it. Three things. Number one, they say looking at the actual Computer Program that was embedded into sony to steal this stuff, the mal wear. It bears digital fingerprints and lines of code to programs they know were used by north korea in the half. Thats the first. The second thing is the computers themselves. The computer hardware. Traces back to known computer addresses in north korea and thirdly the tools used were very similar to a known north korean attack on the south korean economic sector last year. South korean banks and Media Outlets which they attributed to north korea. Thats the essence and you quoted the part i believe was tacked on by the white house. Its not fbi speak. It sounds like the administration where they say what north korea did falls outside the bounds of acceptable state behavior and that tees up and begs the question of what the administration will do in response. A couple of things to add here. There is no mention anywhere about any help. That is something that the cyber world has been buzzing about for the last couple of weeks. Many experts who studied north korea thought the way this attack was carried out was beyond north koreas grasp. Fbi people have been saying the more they look at it, the more they think it was 134g that north korea could have had. It was not beyond its capacity. Second is whether other countries were involved. There has been reporting that it was rooted through servers in other countries. Officials say yes, thats true. At this point they dont say the North Koreans were looking for a bigger band width. Rooting it through servers in taiwan to carry this attack out. There is no mention of help from and infrastructure in other countries. Pete williams with all the breaking news. We will be hearing from the president at 1 30 eastern time. We will be carrying that live here on msnbc with chris matthews. As washington decides how to respond, members of the Hollywood Community are ripping into sony for pulling the film. George clooney said this is a silly comedy, but what it says about us is a lot. We have a responsibility to stand up against this. Joining us is victor cha, Senior Adviser and International Studies and author of the impossible state. Crowd strike that hunts down hackers. If i may ask you first, there is a lot of speculation that because of north koreas lack of a real Computer Internet infrastructure both public and private, it didnt have the resources for this and they have been developing a cyber war battalion really, 3,000 strong and some located around the world. What can you tell us about that . I think youre right. Up until this hack of sony, what we have seen in prior attacks against south korea and Media Companies were of a much more primitive nature and many didnt believe that north korea even though it has this general bureau and within the bureau, they are focused on Cyber Capabilities they would carry out as sophisticated as they did against a soft target in sony. The other thing we have to remember is north korea is about building a symmetric capabilities. Its missiles and weapons of mass destruction and biochemical and an important staple in this portfolio of capabilities is cyber. They demonstrated that they have much more than an insignificant capability as they have done with their Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Weapons over the past or four years. We have another threat and a warning from the hackers to sony. Do they continue to have access do you think inside sony or has sony been able to defend against further intrusion . Its difficult to say, but in many cases its very common for the attackers to remain within organizations after remediation processes. The remediation takes in upwards of three months. Its difficult to say, but as mentioned earlier, there many soft targets out there and its easy for the attackers to get in whether its north korea or china or anyone else. Even if they are kept out, doesnt mean they cant get back in. We had experiences with a number of the major investment banks and the white house have been tacked. The sony intrusion is so much more profound and what the being hackers have done is 10e67 more aggressive. Can you speak to that . If you look overtime what has taken place is really the ability to get in and steal data. We moved from that into this area of destruction. I think its a bit of a watershed event. This is a very public display of what can take place. More than stealing data. I think it sends a wake up call to companies around the globe that although they are getting in, the next step is destroying data, perhaps even holding them hostage for ransom and it ushers in a new era we need to take seriously. You worked at the previous administration. What the statement said and Pete Williams was pointing out the legal language that was precise and there was a paragraph that was clearly from the more diplomatic or National Security perspective saying what they had done was outside the bounds of acceptable state behavior. Doesnt say an act of war. How do you as a former nfc member calibrate what they were saying. What warning or indication is that of what the president and the white house may be considering . Sure. I think youre right. The language at the end sounds very much like it came from the diplomatic side. That is one of the talking points that this administration used with regard to north korea. Its not referencing their cyber action, but the other actions that they have taken outside the bounds of normal state behavior, including counterfeiting of the 100 bill and running of drugs and other sorts of drugs and narcotics through diplomatic pouches. They are including their human rights abuses and there a variety of things. In terms of what they are thinking about now, they are obviously looking at the criminal part of that. Trying to track down the individuals responsible, but i imagine they are looking at counter measures, not just financial sanctions with which many have talked about. I would even venture to say that trying to push at north korean vulnerabilities. Not just the regime, but the people who want it. Is that even feasible given the technology. You know how shut down it is there. There about 12,000 or 17,000 people with internet access, obviously highly controlled. Expanding the ability to connect might be seen as very threatening by the regime. This is the basic human rights violation that they dont have access to information. Providing that in some fashion might be the right. Thanks to you as well. Cuba immigration, the secret service has quite a list at the last News Conference of the year. Before he gets off to the ground for hawaii in a little over an hour. This is Andrea Mitchell reports only on msnbc. Now that the fbi named north korea as the culprit in the sony cyber attack . One of the many issues facing president obama when he mead meets the press before leaving for hawaii later. Here to preview it all, the Political Writer at the atlantic and mark, first to you. You and i covered north korea and the relationship with the u. S. , but this is a whole new chapter. How can they respond . They say its outside the bounds of acceptable state behavior, not an act of war. They can take covert steps as well as overt steps. Youre right and i think a lot of the focus will be on returning fire as it were by trying to do signer steps in response to what the North Koreans have done. Today is historic. Its the first time the u. S. Has formally fingered a Foreign Government in a cyber attack against the United States. It will call out, but as your previous guest pointed out, its tricky because the country is already so heavily sanctioned, its hard to see what economic steps we can take that would be punishing and Cyber Retaliation would be difficult because this is not wired. Most people in north korea except for the government elite had no access to the internet or to the digital sphere. Our leverage is somewhat limited and it will be fascinating to hear how president obama is able to respond vigorous low when he has so few tools at his command. Its true that as your own colleagues have reported, the u. S. Has done this to iran and other adversaries on the nuclear issues. Its not as though we have not used Cyber Weapons ourselves aggressively as well as defensively. What about the political fallout . The president has this breakthrough on cuba which is politically toxic in florida and other places and considered a major positive sign of real engagement and nonlame duckness and here we are on the defense. Thats a real tension for the president and something he is going to be asked about. His temptation in this press conference will be to take a victory lap after seen as a good month for him. After the election results, there was a come back for the white house in things like the cuba deal. The north Korea Development had especially the comments about how weak it makes us look. The actor here was sony, but the way they caved and knuckled under to this act from a totalitarian regime, how does that make us look in terms of our ability to confront these Rogue International actors, and as mark was saying there was not a lot we can do. North korea knows they are waging a symmetrical warfare. It will be interesting to see what sort of rhetorical posture they take against that. Clearly he wants to talk about the economy. There positive signs. What does he have to say about the other domestic issues and now we learn that the state of the union is officially going to be on january 20th. As molly said, it has been taking north cocoa rhea out of it for a good period for him and economically for some reasons that continue to unfold. The declining price of gasoline is making life better and easier for some of these little income american that is the president puts at the top top of his list of concerns and thrown Vladimir Putin on his heels after several months when he appeared to have the u. S. And the west on the defensive. Putin is facing a deep recession in russia that could call into question a lot of his aggression and ukraine and crimea. Dan put out a lengthy memo to all of us in the press that basically listed a number of achievements that began with the economy and went through Court Appointments and advances on immigration and the fact that they are functioning well. I think it will largely be a victory lap even at the start of it will be understandably consumed by north korea. We will all be watching and this is going to be a very interesting day. The get away day for the president and of course of celebrities, speaking of getaways, they joined Stephen Colbert as he ended a nineyear run remaining in character all the while. Thats pretty extraordinary as the faux right wing talk show host and pundit it was pure comedy gold beginning with his first show when he introduced the word truthiness. Jon stewart packed the National Mall with 215,000 members of the colbert nation with the rally to restore sanity and or fear. Who better to teach them about money while raising money for his own super pac. A sitting president took over the show and former secretary of states were willing to take part in the fun. What a run. Colbert will reappear presumably as himself when he takes over David Lettermans chair on the late show. Last night was all about the star studded send off. Well meet again dont know where, dont know when but i know well meet again. Tell them i wont be long they will be happy to know as you saw me go i was singing this song sfo well meet again, dont know where, dont know when but i know well meet again some sunny day the air force released at Andrews Air Force base. Seen with members of congress who rallied to free him and also getting a warm welcome, a real embrace from john kerry who had just flown back and landed there from london. I am no fan of the cuban government. If anyone thinks i suffered from stockholm syndrome, they are wrong. Well, our calculation and you will hear it from the president , this change of policy is geared to change. First to you, a lot of celebrating in havana and how quickly do you think things might be changing . We know an assistant secretary of state will go next month. Yeah, people dont know that and they are excited about all of the changes that have been talked about. There is no controversy as you said. The people as we talked to those in old havana say it can only be good and good for economic change. They are really suffering. They have no idea when the changes are going to happen. They are excited at the prospect that something could change dramatically and finally. Alan gomez, some say its generational and some people that we interviewed with the older members of the Exile Community do not want to go back. Others do want to go to cuba even though they are against the regime. They want to see what its like. Exactly. For the younger generations, cuba is something you heard about in stories. You read about it and saw black and white pictures of your parents over there. Its this curiosity. Something you are wondering that you have never seen. For them i think they also didnt experience the things their parents experienced. The repression and being put in prison and having property taken away. For them they look at it more objectively and say maybe there is a different approach. The parents lived it firsthand and its something that is difficult to swallow. I was talking to a lot of them this morning and they are shaking their heads wondering how this could have happened. You have a whole long list of american corporations who are pushing to get in and including major league baseball. They want to get in and do deals. Alan, what about the possibilities of lawsuits and getting their homes back . You listed off a bunch of the things that will make this a difficult transition. The embargo is still there. There is a strong limit as to what can happen. They open a dealership in havana, but it seems there openings. Folks and lawyers who do business in cuba, their phones are ringing off the hook to figure out how much they can get in there and the question you asked about what to do about all the property that was taken from cubans before they came over to the United States, as we reestablished the relations and as the talks began, i can guarantee that a lot of them will be pressing to ask about that and figure out how to start that process and see if they can reclaim the property. A long shot, but they will be asking. Absolutely. Thank you both so much. And up next, inside the secret service report. You are watching Andrea Mitchell reports only on msnbc. The Holiday Season is here, which means its time for the volkswagen signthendrive event. For practically just your signature, you could drive home for the holidays in a germanengineered volkswagen. Like the sporty, advanced new jetta. And the 2015 motor trend car of the year allnew golf. If youre wishing for a new volkswagen this season. Just about all you need is a finely tuned. Pen. Get zero due at signing, zero down, zero deposit, and zero first months payment on select new volkswagen models. The official review calls for a new director and outsider to shakeup the agency following a series of scandals capped by the army intruder who was armed who got all the way into the residents on september 19th before being taken down. As Homeland Security secretary jeh johnson told me yesterday. Fixing the problem will take time. How easily is it fixable . This is not something based on the recommendations i have seen that can change overnight. Having said that, acting director clancy has taken a number of steps to enhance security around the white house compound and do a number of other things that are positive. We are encouraging him to continue with that, but there more fundamental systemic issues with the secret service they think mead to be address and that cannot be addressed overnight. 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