Good day, everyone im Andrea Mitchell in washington. The United States and turkey are ready to begin arming and training moderate Syrian Rebels under constant pressure from militants inside their war torn nation. The challenge is the same the u. S. Has faced for four years, how do you decide who is moderate and whom should be trusted with american weapons . Just north of syrias border with turkey new details on the front line from a teenager who chose to join isis and fled after experiencing the horrors of war. Jamie, first lets first look at your incredible reporting. Reporter 16yearold says he is lost and on the run. We found him in this turkish city near the border with syria. He agreed to an interview on the condition that we not show his face. Im not afraid here but afraid of isis. Reporter he was once part of isis and didnt like it so he escaped. It all started, he says because he wanted revenge against the regime of bashar al assad, his neighborhood was under attack isis offered food and medicine. They gave you a bit of hope . And you wanted to join them . We hoped they would become strong and fight the regime. Reporter at the age of 15 he joined the isis child army. Isis calls its child soldiers lion cubs of the caliphate. It celebrates them in propaganda videos like this one, children are trained to use a rifle and given classes in religion and learn to hate its enemies. Then they are placed into combat. His camp was attacked only two weeks after he first picked up a gun. Four isis fighters were killed and he was shot in the neck. He was terrified and he missed home. His mother heard he had been wounded and found him at the isis camp. What did she say to you . She said take care of yourself. Reporter he cant continue telling his story without crying. Two months later, he managed to escape across the border to turkey. He now lives in hiding sleeping in a cheap hotel. Reporter what would you say to a young person who came up to you and said im thinking about joining isis . I will tell him my whole story. I will tell him dont do it. Jamie that is heartbreaking and he is only one of thousands of young people who have been recruited, especially because of the impact online that isis has, their Propaganda Machine as the state department acknowledged in the summit this week they are running circles around the western countries in terms of what they can do online in attracting young people. Reporter yes, as i know you reported, the u. S. Government is trying to play catchup now. He admits it was videos on the Internet Plus events on the ground that stirred him and inspired him to join. And he came of age at the very moment that the war in syria was taking a very dark turn. The moderate rebels that we hear so much about had been significantly weakened by then by the time he was coming of age. And isis was the new game in town. The moment he joined them there were only 15 or 20 isis fighters in his immediate area. And they grew up strong just as he was joining and just as he decided that this wasnt quite for him. Jamie, thank you so much and thanks for your reporting. Really stunning story. At the same time, today we learn that three east london girls, age 15 and 16 have been reported missing by their family since last tuesday. Scotland yard says there are indications that the young girls took a turkish air flight to turkey and could have gone into syria to join isis. What is the online appeal of isis, from the working group leader of the Eu Radicalization Awareness Network and he joins me now here. David phillips the former United Nations and state Department Adviser now director of peace building and human rights at Columbia University and author of the book kurdish spring welcome both. We heard about the three english girls. You saw jamies interview with the young syrian boy. Yesterday in talking to the former ambassador to syria, he told of a former goalie for the syrian soccer team who after being held siege in homs with his family and seeing all of the children and people dying there, joined isis even though he was an antiassad more moderate fighter. So how do we counteract these appeals online and events on the ground. One has to differentiate between the kids in the area they have no choice. Isis have been very clever in forcing people to become recruiters and forcing families to send their kids to these indoctrination camps. Thats a huge challenge to deal with that. From europe the coming as we heard in the report people kids from europe. Its difficult to tackle that. This is a dooms day prophecy being unfolded judgment day is coming. There has huge Magnetic Pull in the way they are crafting their messages. Lots of recruitment of women are happening online in a very innocent way and hook them in and then they lure them in coming down to live under this caliphate. Does that explain copenhagen . Maybe a little bit different. I was very close to it. I was just blocks away from it during the entire sort of siege. Here you have a very violent man who was also involved in gang criminality, he was also he then became involved in extremism. Therefore, there is a connectivity between Gang Violence and gang criminal gangs and extremism in particular parts. You have to tackle that in a very different way as well. David phillips how does the United States and state department with the new program counteract isis appeal online social media . Theres a bureau for counterterrorism and communications within the state department. Its the interagency focal point for coordinating response to isis and dealing with social media efforts do they have the tools though . Arent they outmaned and outgunned . And their budget is 5 million and the director is leaving his post now that we declared social media as one of our primary tools in dealing with isis recruitment, we have to invest in this bureau. It needs to be professionally staffed. The meeting in washington had a lot of rhetoric but theres not a lot of walk to the talk. What do you mean by that in terms of walk to the talk . It was inspirational, the president believes in the powers of idea and persuasion of dialogue. Its good to get people together and talk about what we should do domestically to deal with radicalization and bring in international partners, unless flz an outcome and Practical Program funded and has political support, were not going to be able to achieve our objectives. In terms of europes response after paris, after copenhagen is europe serious about trying to deal with this and less adverse to complaints about privacy and what the nsa was doing . I think thats a different issue in terms of how far should the surveillance do in dealing with this. I think europe is getting prepared. We are facing so many people that are going down coming back as well. We have about 5,000 europeans who are down fighting and they come back we are many of the things at the white house summit were already working on it locally and city and on the neighborhood level. But we have much work to be done in relation to all of the sort of different areas of trying to work both repressively with hard measures at the same time preventably, working with families distraught when kids leave and get a sense in community, Community Relations and establishing trust with communities is a massive part. I think that it mirrors the white house summit mirrors what is going on in europe. Were very happy with the fact that we are now they are now taking a global approach to this and there was so many countries, 60 delegations that feel were pushing in the same direction. Its a pair dime shift and i thought it was very productive and constructive. Good to see you again and David Phillips thanks very much. And join us on wednesday at 8 00 eastern when msnbc and telemundo will present a exclusive town hall meeting with president obama. Our colleague will interview the president at Florida International university. You can tell us what you wants the president to talk about using the obama townhall. Now to the bitterly cold temperatures that have stopped millions of us in the tracks. Dozens of cities set record lows and the deep freeze turned Niagara Falls solid. This drone video was shot from the canadian side of the falls. It is even cold in miami where we find the today shows al roker. Reporter ive got to tell you, if 42 degrees is all relative. It does not compare to the minus 17 that theyve gotten down to in cleveland, ohio all time record low for the month of february. Theres been 64 records set overnight low records set. Here in florida alone, were looking at jacksonville miami, tallahassee, vero beach, fort meyers and tampa and melbourne tieing records. The rough part is we have cold air and well get a little moderation on sunday and then more cold air on monday and again wednesday into thursday. We have a big storm system in the midsection of the country that will cause massive problems. At nashville right now, is under an ice warning through tonight. Its going to be bad news and thats going to make its way up into the northeast in the way of snow, rain and ice. Well continue to track it andrea, the winter of our discontent continues. Indeed it is. Al roker in miami. For a completely different view how cold it is we sent nbcs Peter Alexander out an ice breaker off the shores of Chesapeake City maryland. Reporter good day to you, you hear that sound. Thats the sound of the u. S. Coast guard carving through ice. Were picking up some speed trying to make our way through the upper Chesapeake Bay channel. The ice in places up to 2 feet thick. This can only get through 18 inches. If its too thick, it will back up and ram. The ice is packed and stacked. Its a cold one out here 2 degrees when we got out at dawn. 4 degrees right now, the windchill 18 below zero. I promised my 19monthold that i would come home with an elsa doll, she thinks im on the set of frozen it feels like it. Better you than i. Rudy giuliani doubles down on his comments about president obama and likely 2016 candidates pile on. vo after 50 years of designing cars for crash survival, subaru has developed our most revolutionary feature yet. A car that can see trouble. And stop itself to avoid it. When the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety tested front crash prevention nobody beat subaru models with eyesight. Not honda. Not ford or any other brand. Subaru eyesight. An extra set of eyes, every time you drive. 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Already they have 800,000 people on the federal side another 100,000 in california who are going to have to wait to file taxes and you know what that means, could delay you getting your tax refund. Theres a 1095a form that is a form you get if you signed up for obama care and get your insurance through obamacare and gives you a tax credit. You use that in your calculation to come to your final tax number. Well, somehow those calculations are off for about 20 of the people or as we said 800,000 people in 37 states that have the federal exchange. What happens now . Theyve already got a message those folks on the obama care. Com website on their personal account they get emails and maybe followup phone calls ut but until they get an updated correct form at the beginning of march, they need to wait to file their taxes. For people who are far ahead of where many of us are and already filed, working with the Treasury Department because those tax returns will have to be recalculated andrea. Thats a nightmare. Thank you very much, chris jansing. Former mayor new york rudy juliangiuliani is adding gas to the fire about his comments about president obama not loving america. Do you want to apologize . Not at all, i want to repeat it. From all i can see of this president and all ive heard of him, he apologizes for america and criticized america. I do not detect in this man the same rhetoric and same language same love of america that i detected in other american president s including democrats. Joining me now for our daily fix, chris sill list za and Washington Post editorial columnist, ruth marcus. Welcome both. Chris, has Rudy Giuliani gone into donald trump territory here . And is the significance the way other republicans running for the presidency or likely to the way they are reacting to all of this . You know i think he has marginalized himself in some real way. Not just by this comment, andrea, but i think over the last yearish, hes made a number of comments that have put him there. I think part of this is a politician who is one of the best known politicians in the country who ran unsuccessfully in president in 2008 and likes the attention and limelight. When you are not in office or running for office its harder to get that attention unless you say things that really sort of raise peoples eyebrows. Enter his comments of late. I would add his comments he made to maggie of the New York Times in an interview on thursday night, which sort of weirdly doubled down while also making worse talking about well barack obama has a white mother et cetera et cetera. In fact we have that quotation here. Some people thought it was racist. I thought that was a joke since he, the president was brought up by a white mother, white grandfather and went to white schools and most of this he learned from white people. This isnt racism this is socialism or possibly anticolonialism. Ruth . Oh, please. What is he talking about . I dont know what hes talking about but hes talking in a way that i think is completely inappropriate about the president and unsupported by any evidence about the president. And i think my friend chris was being a little kind to him. Im going to be less kind. But also i think you raise the exactly correct point. The point isnt isnt what giuliani said because he marginalized himself and doubled down on it. Its what other republicans who want to be president are thinking about running for president , how they respond to this. To me its the new vaccines. What you say about these comments really will help define you in the public mind and what you should be saying is not appropriate. Let me give you all a text bookcase. We alluded to this yesterday, in 2008 when john mccain faced a woman at a rally one of his supporters way saying the president was born in africa and muslim. This is the way john mccain, the republican candidate responded. I have read about him and hes not hes hes an arab. Hes not no maam, no maam. Hes decent family man citizen that i just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and thats what this campaign is all about. Hes not. Thank you. Let me show you in contrast to that what scott walker who was present at that republican fundraiser fundraisers dinner where this all first erupted, scott walker was there, he was the chief guest, only whand date who was a guest. This is what he said the next monday on cnbc. The mayor can speak for himself. Im not going to comment on what the president thinks or not. He can speak for himself as well. I can tell you i love America Bobby jindal who put out a statement agreeing with giuliani, Chris Cillizza this is a test for whether jeb bush and other candidates how are they going to answer the question . With walker it felt sort of like i think a missed opportunity and i would say that for the rest of them as well. Do i think rudy juliangiulianis comments will ultimately decide this race . No. But could you very easily say, look i disagree with the direction barack obama has taken the country. I think its been bad for the country. I think his vision of the future of this country is different than my version of the future of this country. That said i dont doubt his love for this country in his patriot patriotism. Who would disagree with that . Its like opening a pact saying that children are great and they are our future. No one is against it. I dont understand why no one did that also because im not sure throwing Rudy Giuliani under the bus is all that problematic necessarily because hes not that big a figure anymore. I just like to make the point quickly what john mccain did with the voter is much braver than an