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MSNBCW Andrea Mitchell Reports January 25, 2017

Voter fraud. He believes what he believes based on the information provided. Battle supreme, the president teasing a major announcement next thursday on his choice for the Supreme Court. We have outstanding candidates answer we will pick a truly Great Supreme Court justice. Good day everyone. Im Andrea Mitchell in washington. Busy day as donald trump prepares to unleash a series of executive orders on Homeland Security fulfilling some of the president s most noteworthy and Controversial Campaign promises, building that wall, limiting refugees from some muslim countries, keeping guantanamo open and reopening interrogation techniques congress banled in a senate vote 7821 nearly two years ago. The president will head to the department of Homeland Security just next door to us next hour. Joining know nbc White House Correspondent Kristen Welker and Gadi Schwartz. Kristen, go through some of the executive orders. Reporter its striking andrea, this is a major reversal on some of the Obama Administrations past executive orders and it is to some extent a fulfillment of some of his most Controversial Campaign promises. First to the wall. We are expecting according to a Senior Administration official President Trump to sign an executive order that would call for redirecting federal funds to Start Building the wall along the mexican border. More than 6 million per mile to build the wall. Hed need congressional approval to get the additional appropriations. Hes always said that mexico is going to pay for the wall. Senior officials insist thats still going to happen but andrea, theres no doubt hes asking american taxpayers to foot the bill on the front end, and mexico insists its not going to pay for the call. This comes weeks before the president of mexico is set to have a bilateral meeting with President Trump here at the white house. So that is the first thing. You mentioned a number of other executive actions that hes prepared to take and can he working on in the work so we understands going to move forward with extreme vetting. Countries like yemen and syria, iran and iraq. That is going to be hugely controversial and then nbc news has obtained in order that would effectively direct agencies to review those socalled black sites, those foreign sites to hold detainees and some of them included torture. This was outlawed under president obama, so this would be a major reversal on an obama policy if that were to take place. Thanks so much, and Gatti Schwartz youre near a fence and theres a distinction between a fence and the wall that donald trump is proposing. Reporter thats right, and as kristen was describing it comes down to cost. This fence is about 6. 5 million a mile, just like kristen was saying. Wall would be considerably higher, a little bit of inf infrastructure that has to go in. Were right here, right next to the border, weve been talking to people who have been coming to this bus stop getting their reaction to the news today that donald trump will be signing an executive order that has to do with the wall. Lot of mexicans on this side have been expressing their concerns. First of all, a lot of them do not take this fence very seriously. One man told us people can get over it in 15 seconds. This is a small part of 700 miles of secure fence along the u. S. mexico border but the u. S. mexico border is about 2,000 miles so there is still quite a considerable amount of that border that right now is unprotected by a fence but again, donald trump does not want a fence. He wants a wall and wants mexico to pay for it, another concern for mexicans who have stayed in mexico. Why should they have to pay for this wall when they have not come over to the United States, they have not immigrated to the United States, and when we ask them about their president , Enrique Peno Nieto scheduled to meet with donald trump on the 31st and his comments how mexico will not pay for the wall, they said they have to wait and see because they dont trust them. Alan gomez, the net migration from mexico has changed dramatically. Its basically zero people coming in are from poorer countries passing through mexico. Nafta has had a big increase in its own standard of living partly as a result of oil and other resources that mexico has, and theyve become better off, we have fewer people trying to come in illegally from mexico, per se. Exactly. If wed have been talking about a wall ten years ago when the number of undocumented immigrants coming across was in the millions, then the argument would be a little bit different but right now theres some studies especially from the Pew Research Center that find more mexicans are going back to mexico than are coming to the United States. Theres been some spikes when it comes to especially children who have been coming from Central American countries like guatemala, honduras, el value ka for, seeing violence so its difficult for the u. S. To get a handle on and figure out how to handle those kids. Couple years ago we saw that peak and that brought the immigration debate back into the headlines. Overall the number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been flat for about seven, eight years, ever since the end of the recession, and so its an interesting time to be building this wall, but obviously donald trump tapped into something in the United States that enough people wanted that to happen. The new refugee policy, this is focused on syria and other countries when the muslim ban began in december 2015 and evolved over the course of the campaign to be supreme, extreme vetting from targeted countries. Where do wetand with that, alan, what he is about to announce today . I think its really interesting that he started calling it a muslim ban but as time wore on he started changing it to saying lets vet people from places that foster terrorism that are havens for terrorism. So now these seven countries that were talking about, weve been hearing about so far, iran, sudan and syria are on the Department List of state sponsors of terrorism, the other four designated being terrorist safe havens so theres going to be legal challenges and advocacy groups are promising to do that, saying that his real thrust here is to go after muslims, but theyring will very careful about which countries they select so they can draw the direct line to terrorism, so that they have a National Security defense and end up holding it. Kristen the whole debate over refugees from syria, the state department pointed out the United States takes a little over 12,000 Syrian Refugees after theyve been vetted for at least two years by the u. N. And theyre mostly children and women. Reporter this is the most vigorous vetting process in the world, Administration Officials from the Obama Administration will argue, andrea, when we first started having this debate, and i think the key is there is that twoyear process that you talk about, its a very long, very vigorous intruive and invasive process. The counter argument to banning refugees, first this goes against the American Values to ban refugees and secondly, that again, this is perhaps one of the safest ways to ensure people are coming into our country, but this is obviously one of President Trumps key Campaign Promises and it speaks to this point, when you spoke to a lot of trump voters out on the campaign trail, a lot of them said hes not going to follow through with that promise building a wall, banning muslims. Hes going to create jobs. That was what they heard from him on the campaign trail and what we are seeing he is, in fact, moving to follow through with a number of those Campaign Promises that he made on the campaign trail. Andrea . Kristen welker has a busy day covering the white house today. Reporter indeed. And thanks to Gadi Schwartz and alan gomez. This morning President Trump promised white house backing that millions of undocumented immigrants voting. I will be asking for a Major Investigation into voter fraud including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and those even who are registered to vote who are dead. Ari melbourne joins me now. You may be responsible for this all caps tweet you gave your reality check on the today show followed emphatically by the donald trump tweet. Its your fault. Lets go through your fact check, this goes back to sean spicers referring to the pew study and the author of that, david becker says its been miscast. President kennedy said success has a thousand fathers, whether this was a successful fact check or not we ran through the facts and landed how there was no investigation and donald trump tweeted this about the investigation on the facts so folks know it and can judge for themselves when you look at the balance lots cast, 138 million, 138. 8 million four cases inperson voter fraud and were not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump on the study. It was a 2012 study and only about records, about Voter Registration and the author of it has said that he can confirm the report that he wrote made no findings about voter fraud. So that briefly runs through the facts we have at our disposal. Why thats important is because the tweet you just showed, andrea, the breaking news here this morning is an attempt by donald trump to cite the fact that there are people on voting role s who shouldnt vote and a location a massive criminal voter fraud, criminal activity that he was talking about. There isnt evidence for that. There is evidence web people die the first phone call families make is not to the elections board, why some registration roles arent always accurate. It does not mean there was any fraud. Elijah cummings reacted to the donald trump reaction on morning joe he launched his investigation into the overnight community. Being minority he has less leverage but tried to launch an investigation into Donald Trumps claims. So they are launching a counter investigation. If you look at how many state houses and state legislatures are republican they are predominantly republican the conclusions of the secretaries of state around the country. They are and thats why this is a situation where the Trump Administration speaking on behalf of the United States government, not an a campaign, theyre on a political factual island and on an investigative island, because if this were pursued with any rigor, all the experts and local officials including republicans that weve spoken with say this would turn up nothing. So does Donald Trumps tweets now that hes president reflect an actual plan to do something, because it calls for a government investigation or is it itself another misdirection on top of what are false claims. The only other point ill make it is perfectly routine as you know for the government to review voting rules. Its been done several times. We can put it up on the screen in a bipartisan fashion after the 2000 election, there was a commission, president obama had a Bipartisan Commission which had people from the romney and obama campaigns and all sorts of things that could be done and modernized. If thats the direction this goes that would be routine. The reason why this is important is people are concerned voting fraud, unsubstantiated and well documented it didnt take place is really the predicate for another round of Voter Suppression for i. D. Cards, for other things like the texas i. D. Cards that have been adjudicated and now the Justice Department as of last friday is stepping back at least asking for a continuance on the hearing that was to start yesterday on that highly controversial texas i. D. Law. Thats a political debate that occurs because the Supreme Court has upheld certain types of voter i. D. Laws although as you mentioned some struck down in the Appeals Courts. It is certainly fair to say that states have the power to govern voter i. D. In some way, and theres a political debate over how to do that. That is completely separate from whether Government Resources or the authority of the federal government is being misused to suggest falsehoods, things that didnt happen or suggest falsehoods in pursuit of further changes to the law. The federal government like the State Government has to oversee free and fair elections. The concern what donald trump tweeted this morning and sean spicer said yesterday underlimis some of the nonpartisan authority we all need to have faith in the elections. This is serious business. Thanks to you, ari,ell be talking to Ashley Parker the Washington Post reporter reporting on the nexus between, among other things Donald Trumps apparent Television Viewing in the morning and the tweets that then follow. We are all on guard. Thank you. Thank you, appreciate it. Coming up, the president s next moves that could lift the ban on cia black site prisons overseas. Jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the cia and pentagon joining me next on Andrea Mitchell reports. 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Executive hour is circumscribed by the law we passed prohibiting the use of torture even though the Army Field Manual can be reviewed it does not allow to return to the use of torture including waterboarding and i am confident the vote was 7821 in the United States senate and it specific country prohibits it. Joining me is jeremy bash. Thank you very much. Hey andrea. We were talking about ways to get around it. The senate was clear for general mattis and congressman pompeo for cia that they want to hold firm to the Army Field Manual and ban approved overwhelmingly, bipartisan approval in 2015. In this executive order draft it calls for reviewing the Army Field Manual. If you change the underlying document, do you have to then change, could you get around this without changing the law . Because the law just says you have to abide by the Army Field Manual. It is a more expansive document allowing some of the practices that were since banned maybe you dont have to go back to congress. Congress led by john mccain who of course survived torture in vietnam would move quickly to squash any effort by the Trump Administration to reverse the torture ban. My sense from talking to Intelligence Leaders there is zero appetite to go back to harsh interrogation. We havent engaged in waterboarding since 2004. We havent had detainees at black sites since 2006. It was actually president bush, not president obama, president bush who emptied the black sites. Weve been able to keep our country safe since the mid 2000s without waterboarding and black sites bec

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