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MSNBCW Andrea Mitchell Reports March 7, 2017

Conclusion. Its a very serious charge against the previous president of the United States. And testing trump. As north korea fires missiles, Vladimir Putin tries to expand his reach, and the immigration ban alienates allies, we have yet to hear from the nations top diplomat. Reporter mr. Secretary, china said there would be consequences for the aen tie Missile Defenses in south korea. Can you respond . Thank you, press. Press. Reporter can you respond thank you. Were leaving. Reporter excuse me mr. Secretary, can you respond to the press from china . Thank you, press. Thank you. Thank you. Reporter mr. Minister, are you sure the Trump Administration will be strong against Vladimir Putin . Thank you, guys. Were leaving. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you andrea. Reporter can you assure us that russia will will not be able to move further in ukraine . We havent had any time in here. Im sorry, you need to go. Lets go, guys. Reporter that was only moments ago only the seventh floor of the state department, still no answers from secretary of state rex tillerson. Good day im Andrea Mitchell at the state Department Taking a back seat on National Security and faces massive budget cuts. This afternoon ill be at the First State Department briefing in six weeks since the inaugural, an absence of Public Diplomacy not seen since 1953 when Dwight Eisenhower was president , when this tradition started of speaking out from the platform here at the state department to the rest of the world. More on that in a moment. First to capitol hill and the first big step for republicans to repeal and replace obamacare. The new house plan would strip the Health Insurance mandate but keep two popular provisions, coverage for people with preexisting conditions and coverage for young adults up to age 26 under their parents plan. Obama cairs Medicaid Expansion would end in 2020, a major Sticking Point even for key republican senators. It calls for a 30 premium on individuals who let their insurance lapse and establishes tax credits based on age. Joining me is Peter Alexander and kasie hunt. Kasie, first to you as this is being unveiled today. The reactions coming from republicans and democrats its hard to see that this bill doesnt already feel like its on life support. You have a goal number of conservative groups opposed to this, the Heritage Action put out a statement that conservative group that had given john bain sore many headaches. They said this doesnt repeal obamacare. You have the freedom caucus, group of republicans in the house saying we need toe straight up repeal obama kaye, not replace it. This isnt conservative enough a replacement. In the senate side four moderate republicans saying we cant repeal the Medicaid Expansion. It would be difficult for our states and so many people would lose coverage. Today i pressed the two chairmen who he written this bill whether fewer or more americans would be covered and they essentially said well we think more americans will have affordable Health Insurance. There is acknowledgment it will cover less people. In the first 24 hours of life incredible road blocks being thrown up to this bill. This is as the president acknowledged very complicated. We were covering the Affordable Care act as it wound its way through congress eight years ago there were plenty of times that bill was never going to move forward but ultimately moved forward. Nancy pelosi democrat incredibly strong leader. At obama at the height of his popularity. This is a test for President Trump and House Speaker paul ryan. Peter alexander the president is busy on twitter on a lot of subjects. Youve been trying to keep up Fact Checking in real time for instance on guantanamo. Why dont you take it from there and bring us up to date. Reporter start specifically on the issue of health care, part of what the president tweeted, the white house specifically their new Health Secretary tom price writing a letter to leading republicans officially endorsing this new replacement plan. The president himself on twitter this morning said our wonderful new Health Care Bill is now out for review and negotiation. By ma cair is a complete and total disaster, is imploding fast. The president this afternoon will meet with key republican lawmakers here scheduled to take place at about 3 30 this afternoon, where its certain that the issue of the obamacare replacement plan will be among the topics they discuss today. That letter written by tom price referred to this new plan as opinion centered in terms of solutions that provide all americans with access to Affordable Quality Health care. Its the word access already causing some of the controversy about the differences between this and what preexisted with obamacare, but i think andrea what well be watching specifically at the white house and around this country is how much energy, how much muscle the president puts behind this plan. Already his tweet says that the bill is up for review and negotiation. Will he campaign on this or will he basically just put out some tweets and support it from a distance . Casey, the Judiciary Committee questioning Rod Rosenstein, the nominee to be the Deputy Attorney general a Critical Condition with the recusal of the attorney general on all investigations of the campaign potential or possible collusion, the russia engagement in the campaign. That means that Rod Rosenstein would be in charge of it and i guess the questions today are, would he agree to a special prosecutor if there is no confidence that the attorney general and the department of justice can be independent of White House Pressure . Reporter i imagine mr. Rosenstein was looking forward to a relatively behind the scenes innocuous anonymous type hearing and confirmation but as it turns out, not the case in the wake of that recusal, as you point out, Jeff Sessions last week recusing himself from any inquiries into the Trump Campaign and that leaves mr. Rosenstein as the person who will make prosecutorial decisions in light or in the event that investigation that nbc news has been reporting that the fbi is doing into any contacts between the Trump Campaign and russia were to end up recommending criminal prosecution. Hed be the one who would make a decision around that, and what democrats have been frying to get him to do all morning is commit to taking this a step further, taking it into the realm of a special prosecutor that of course a little different from weve talked about a 9 11 Style Commission for example to investigate russias meddling. This would be a criminal inquiry, and thats what democrats want him to say hell do. So far hes answered those questions by saying i havent had a chance to look at a lot of this classified information that ill have access to once im confirmed into this position and something he hasnt made a decision about. We will esee if thats good for enough for democrats who senator blumenthal of connecticut said hed hold it up, if he doesnt get the commitments that he wants from mr. Rosenstein. Finally, peter lets go over that tweet this morning about guantanamo, because you did some real time Fact Checking on that. Lets put that tweet up if you can. This camout about 7 00 this morning, the President Trump tweet the 122 vicious Prisoners Released by the Obama Administration from gitmo have returned to the battlefield, just another terrible decision. That was what he tweeted, it appeared to be based on a fox friends segment posted on twitter about a half hour earlier but the facts are very different than what President Trump suggested. Its true that 122 detainees, as the military prefers to refer to it, have returned to the battlefield according to the director of National Intelligence his most recent report but what the difference is, that of those 122, 113 of them were actually released during the bush administration, andrea, just nine of them released under president obama. Thanks so much for all the Fact Checking, thanks to you and kasie for the latest from the white house and capitol hill. Another development that were following today and this is a big one. Wikileaks has struck again, claiming that their latest document released today reveals important cia hacking secrets. Nbc news has not verified the authenticity of these documents and cia spokesman is declining to comment. Retired four star general and former cia director michael hayden, former head of the nsa, principal of the Chertoff Group now and author of playing to the edge american intelligence in the age of terror, now out in paperback. Well, general hayden its great to see you. We could not have a more perfect guest today to talk about all of this. We are not going to go into the details of what wikileaks is revealing out of caution, and because we have not authenticated them but in general let me ask you how damaging is it . If they appear to be what they are, what about this continual leakage from wikileaks, this document dump and this could be, could be depending on what assessment we make, could bne of the most dangerous and damagingf them all. Yr right, but andrea, i just know what im reading and reading quickly and frankly not a whole lot of detail, and i do reflect the agencys comment that they arent going to talk about this and this has not been confirmed, but if it is what it pretends to be, it looks like a very extensive file of the tactics, techniques, procedures, targets and political rules under which the Central Intelligence agency conducts its Computer Network exploitation and other activities. So if it is that, it would be very, very damaging, and andrea, i just got to off an editorial comment here. Please do. This is about foreign intelligence collection. It doesnt invoke the privacy rights of americans, and isnt it surprising that wikileaks, this transparency engine, seems to be focused on transparency only about the United States of america and its friends, not totalitarian regimes around the world. Certainly would indicate something about their motives indeed. Lets move on to the president s tweet from saturday, because its still not substantiated in any regard. I want you to share, with you and all of our viewers and listeners what Lindsey Graham just was asked about, or asked Rod Rosenstein about at the Judiciary Committee hearing on the nominee to be acting, rather Deputy Attorney general. He was asking what it would take to wiretap or easedrop the president elect or nominee or trump tower. How could president obama d this . This is ho it went. You could haveotten a warrant through the normal criminal process. Number two, you could have a fisa court which say little bit different but its still the Court Overseeing someones reque request. The third president obama on his own decided to waretap trump tower or the campaign, do you know of any bagsis he would have the ability to do that without a fisa warrant or without a warrant from a federal judge in a criminal investigation . No, i do not. As a matter of fact, he could not . No president can unilaterally say wiretap that person. The nominee says thats just not possible. How do we understand, how do you explain if you can what the president of the United States was talking about . Letconsensus here, andrea, thats just not possible and senator graham laid it out perfectly, in order to get a fisa warrant, its either for foreign intelligence purposes or Counter Intelligence and Law Enforcement purposes, the president cant do it, and each case a judge has to believe theres probable cause, talking about a crime or agent of a foreign power. Foreign intelligence was run by jim clapper. This lane over here Law Enforcement and Counter Intelligence run by jim comey. In the last 36 hours both jims have said not me. Wrong theres any there there when it comes to this claim the president put out. President obama would have been breaking the law if he did it without going through either of those two paths, and he couldnt do it anyway, it would have to be someone from the fbi, someone from intelligence, someone from the Justice Department. It wouldnt be up to the president. Lets just assume a scenario here, from some late night thriller the president decides to break the law. Hes not going to put the alligator climz on the wires himself. He has to use an agency of the United States government. This president is complaining about the bureaucracy being unresponsive to his guidance. Andrea, i can only imagine the response when the bureaucracy is told in this socalled theater im creating here to do this in clear violation of the fisa statutes. The american governments agents and fbi, nsa, cia, just wouldnt do that. From your long experience, what is the damage to the u. S. Abroad with our allies to have the president making these unsubstantiated allegations, this one in quick laparticular egregious but the others as well, guantanamo to our foreign partners, intelligence partners who need to trust us and on whom we rely for sharing their intelligence. Let me just bring mr. Putin on stage here just for a moment, andrea. Thanks. His narrative is that we arent what we pretend to be. We arent this stable, mature transparent responsible democracy. And i fear an awful lot of tweets from the president of the United States reinforce the narrative that mr. Putin would like the rest of the world to believe about us. I want to ask about north korea, four more missile launches. They havent as far as we know the joint chiefs are saying the latest one did not include as they claim an icbm, a long range missile that could reach the continental United States but they are clearly advancing. Yes. And while they havent figured out how to put a Nuclear Warhead on top of these missiles, that could be down the road. What do wedo . If there is an easy what do we do, we would have done it. This is a genuinely wicked problem. I dont envy the Trump Administration this issue, because frankly, andrea, because of the limited successes of all this predecessors, were getting to crunch time. Probably within his First Administration the north korean also have a rudimentary indigenously produced icbm with a rudimentary indigenously produced Nuclear Warhead, probably capable of reaching the American Pacific northwest. It wont be a high confidence weapon. Theyre going to have lots of problems with launch, separation fusing, hardening, miniaturization and so on but then again andrea, if youre living in seattle or vancouver, what kind of odds are you comfortable with . This is really coming to a very, very difficult choice. And theres reporting from david sanger and his colleagues, William Broad and others at the New York Times that among the options being considered by this new administration are helping south korea become nuclear armed. Its something that the president talked about during the campaign. Is that a good idea to renuclearize the peninsula . Its an idea. I dont know if its a good idea but then again andrea, were running out of good ideas. My sense is, a threat, even a suggestion that we would return our weapons to south korea, that we would allow the South Koreans to develop their own weaponry, thats a carom shot. Thats not meant to influence the North Koreans, probably have a negative effect on them, theyd want their weapons even more. What thats designeded to do is point out to the chinese, if you dont put pressure on these guys, were going to go do what we got to go do and i dont think youre going to like it. Maybe then we get the chinese to exert the kind of pressure that to date theve just refused to exert. And today, china threatened consequences because of our beginning to deploy the antiMissile Defenses in south korea, the socalled t. H. A. D. Program. How much do we need to worry about that . Look, im fully in the lane of with regard to the t. H. A. D. , this is we got to go do what we have to do. Sorry, china, not

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