Transcripts For MSNBCW Andrea Mitchell Reports 20170406 : vi

Transcripts For MSNBCW Andrea Mitchell Reports 20170406

Since taking office. His first meeting with chinas president xi jinping in the course of two days at his m mar lago resort. First there is more breaking news from capitol hill. Senate democrats a successful filibuster of neil gorsuch has set off a chain reaction. And Intelligence Committee chairman devin nunes under pressure to rescues himself because of that trip to the white house that is finally sidelined. Sidelining himself from the russia investigation after the Bipartisan House Ethics Committee opened an investigation as to whether or not new nest mishandled information he got from the white house. Ed markey is just off of the floor as there has been a series of votes. Tell us the state of it right n now. Without question, every senator knows that right now theyre part of a historic moment. There is now an effortcr that h gun by senator mcconnell and the republicans to change the rules a 60 vote margin in order to confirm a 60 vote to a just majority. Right now that is what thert senate is in the process of debating. And ultimately, unfortunately, the republicans do have the votes in order to change these rules in a way that is going to profoundly change our institution. Now, chuck schumer, the democratic leader on the floor speaking right now as this gets under way. Is it worth it to risk what can go back against you if you ever regain the majority. The prospect of having no ph filibuster option on these issues because of this one decision. I realize it is a lifetime appointment, but down the road arent you paying a very heavy price . Were going to have to debate it at another time. But on this issue, on the issue of whether or not 60 votes is needed for a Supreme Court nominee, given how many historic decisions have been 54 votes. Bush versus gore. Selecting a new president , the Citizens United decision. Decision after decision, 5 to 4. This one person, this ninth vote, is so important to the history of the country, and in our opinion, its worth the fight. It is worth standing up to make sure that we make the point that the problem is not with the process. Not with the 60 vote margin, it is with this nominee who is a radical rightwing member of the judiciary right now with a record that made it clear that he would not be able to represent the main stream of the american public. Now just to push back for a moment, he is filling the scalia seat, he is not changing the ballots. He is filling a seat that is a and as well it is the votes for objective criteria, and it will not change the composition of the court that will tilt against womens health, against consumers, against environmental protections. He himself, on his own record, has produced a voting record in the judiciary which is so clearly even thclea clearly empthetical. I want to ask you about syria because of the horror of this apparent chemical attack. Do you support a limited military option if the president moves in that direction, he was certainly hinting at it yesterday. This is for President Trump, a chance to change his views on russia. To say to russia, number one, its critical for you to fully implement the removal of all chemicals within syria. That has not happened. Secondly there is a full implementation of the cease fire that turkey, iran, and russia negotiated. That is not being implemented. That there is all access for humanitarian aide in that country, and fourthly that there is a negotiation. That takes lace, with assad at the table and all other parties so we can reach a negotiated settlement. A military intervention by the United States could result in a military escalation by russia, iran, and other countries as well. Let us first try a negotiated settlement. Let us have President Trump talk to putin about getting to a table so we can begin a diplomatic resolution. Thank you so much, i know you have to run, thank you for taking time off of the floor. Kristen well ker and and kacie hill, who is getting her exercise side. You have the horror of what happens in syria, he is the only person in the administration, National Security team, that is not mentioned russias complicity in this. Clearly that has not happened. That is right, in fact it was nikki hailey who had strong words about russia, but we heard strong words frnot from preside trump. He indicated that his view of assad has now changed. Why is that significant . Just several days ago the secretary of state said it is up to the Syrian People to determine the feaith and future of assad. So are they considering Something Different here in the president is very clear that he is not going to tip his hand about the potential strategic options, but the pentagon is preparing a series of responses from the president. No word yet if they requested those options that could be available to him, but this is clearly a pressing National Security problem as he prepares to hold that all important summit with the leader of china when he is expected to press on another crisis. North korea, the fact they had a number of recent provocations, President Trump expected to try to turn up the heat on china to put the psh on nor pressure o north korea for them to tone it down. At the same time, these big Foreign Policy decisions are being decided in a National Security council that no longer has steve bannon has a member, and now has the permanent membership of the cia director, the director of national intelligence, and the chairman of the joint chief. It is general mcmaster taking control of the nsc away from what has been in play under mike flynn. What about the turmoil in the west wing over all of this. Butting steve bannon in the position of chief strategist, and more controversial when he was put in the National Security council. Yesterday the white houses official line was that bannon was put in place to oversee mike flynn operationally and now that flynn is out steve bannon has done his job and there is no reason for him to be there. We know there is a lot of turmoil and questions about his role her we also know there is a growing divide here within this white house between people like bannon who represent the populist appeal of this president , and people with a more global outlook. Jared kushner. Gary cone, and were seeing them increasingly at odds here. Why does the president keep steve bannon on . He is someone who helped him win the white house and who is a real reality check in terms of what he promised to those voters. This is this creating instability . Now theyre trying to revive repealing and replacing obama care, and as they prepare to take recess, there is no classi information. Thats right, andrea, they have. And that is what prompted all of this. The House Ethics Committee is a bipartisan committ, an equal number of republicans and democrats, so for this to happen, at least one republican has to have concerns about some of the things devin nunes has said. He has been giving a series of press conferences in the course of the last few weeks mostly here on capitol hill. That one exception was when he went to tell the president about intelligence he had, a day before, he talked to a white house reporters then, but the question that the House Ethics Committee is looking into is whether he, at any point in these numerous press c conferences, did he divulge classified information. Now we know that he met with speaker ryan last night. A congressional aide says, and the speaker and nunes have been saying this was nunes decision, and they are not saying if they want him to rescues himself here. But theyre saying this was a distraction, and he will rescues himself from anything related to the russian probe, to include all of the things we have been talking about as wl as trump associates. So what happens now, the congressman conway of texas is taking over this probe. He is next in line. We tried to catch up with congressman nunes, but he would not comment on that. Andrea . And last we saw you, kacie, you were running down the hallway and keeping up right in pace with congressman nunes. Luckily not in the rain. Well come back to you momentarily when the key votes take place on the senate side. Get your running gear ready. More on the investigation, the shake up, a democratic from the house intelligence meeting coming up, plus we continue to watch the historic moves in the senate. 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Those who have had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. With less pain, i can be more active. Ask your doctor about lyrica. I can be more active. [ [ screams ] ] [ shouting ] brace yourself this is crazy [ tires screeching ] whoo boom baby rated pg13. [ screams ] think has been a distraction, do you still have confidence in him. Speaker ryan after devin nunes stepped aside after it was revealed whether or not he he improperly spoke on classified materials. We wanted to bring you in and ask, you have been calling for his recusal. Was this voluntary . I cant say, but it was the right move. We want to get this investigation back on strak to we can show the American People that were making progress. At this point do you have confidence that without him at u can move forward . Do you have confidence in the new leadership . I do. I like mike kahn way. Were just asking that we follow the evidence. Any evidence that is relevant, we should hear from them and be able to review them. I want to say to my constituents that we have a plan to do that. And we were able to agree. When we talked to adam schipp yesterday on the show, he has a letter on his desk asking for sally yates to testify, where does that stand now . The critical testimony of sally yates . That needs to happen and that was after a fall low up meeting. Some of the information well have to receive in a classified setting, and the hearing with sally yaets, that was supposed to be an open hearing. I think one of the real issues that we had is that he closed and canceled that hearing, so i hope that is put back on the calendar so we can get back to work. Is sally yates on that witness list . Yeah. We cant go into names, but that one has been agreed on and it should be the next one that we have. Do you think you will be get the cooperation from the white house . Last we knew adam schipp said he had seen the materials, he was given access to the materials, but he was not allow to share them with other members of the committee, are you going to be able to see and other members of the committee to see what the chairman has seen. We have, but i can say that they made a mess of this. And often times i learned as a former prosecutor that the way that someone acts after an investigation is launched tells you if youre investigating the right person. This is continued obstructive behavior by the white house. And that aside, the makeup of the committee. As i understand it. We hope that as we have to take votes, subpoena witnesses that we do that. Thank you so much, congressman, thank you. There is turmoil on the hill and the white house been try trying to Steve Steve Bannon out there. The natural evolution. Instead of a demion. They are investigationing turmoil. Joining me now is chris. The gate keeper. Trying to find every presidency. Your book could not be more timely. They said going in there was too more Power Centers this this white house and you didnt have Reince Priebus as a chief of staff. It is more complicated. What is your take away . Its a formula for failure. One of the things that i learned in talking to the living chiefs of staff is that every president learns that you cannot govern effecti effective. To tell the president what he doesnt want to hear. And they are clear, he fey mosly is called a dunce unfairly, but i think reagan intuitive something that carter didnt understand. He found one in jim bak toun things and to makehings work. And it is just a critical job and history shows that unless you have that structure and that chain of command, and an effective white house chief, youre asking for failure. In fact you see right now theyre having a vote on the Nuclear Option, you can honor i covered eight years of ronald reagan, that when you hearing aid jim baker and later, you know, others in that chief of staff position, howard baker, they knew to speak to someone on the hill, they would not have gone for a list, they would have talked to a judiciary committee. As you remember, jim baker created the legislative strategy group. It had brilliant people on it. Those guys knew how to count votes. And while we talk about counting votes, our expert counter frank thorpe is calling in off of the senate floor where the Nuclear Option is being voted on. Yeah, theyre currently voting on the Nuclear Option. And what were expecting here is for them to vote no on this motion. What they vote on is whether or not the chair is correct in assessing that a 60 vote session is needed. They want to change the tl threshold to 51 to change what democrats did earlier today. They voted 55 to 45 to filibuster the nonation. Now theyre trying to change the rule this is obviously highly contentious, it is someone that republicans accepted that if our phone coverage there is not as good as it needs to be. I know you will be standing by with a update on that. Its clear theyre voting and the republicans will be voting no to change the rules. This is another history making moment that another white house might have been able to avoid perhaps with better leadership. Ronald reagan at his very First Initiative wanted to go to capitol baker was smart enough to know that is the third level of politics. He was able to change Ronald Reagans course, and the rest was history. I think, you know, i cant think of any examples of the Current White House chief of staff as gone in and spoken truth to power with donald trump. And the bigger problem, of course, is that you have to have a president that wants to have a grown up in the room. Who is willing to listen to news that he does not want to hear. It is not at all clear that we have that. Just very briefly, when you have the soninlaw going to baghdad, and at the summit, doesnt that tell you something is awry here . Is it the most dysfunctional white house in modern history i think. And i think that if one way of putting it is that if donald trumpments to be jimmy carter, a one term president , he should continue to run his white house and administration the way he has. Thank you very much, chris whiple, good luck with the new book. Right now by the way we see a very rainy day, a motorcade arrival because marine one will not fly in weather like this. You see him arrive at joint base andrews in maryland. White house traffic down to the air base, and he is flying towards sunnier weather, we presume, in palm beach. Well be right back. Im only in my 60s. Ive got a nice long life ahead. Big plans. 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On the senate side, the vote in play now for the rule change that is basically a no vote by republicans and they need 51 nos to change the rule. Am i correct on the order . Thats right. It is very complicated procedural motion here

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