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Bureaucratic. New jobless claims today are highlighting the ongoing economic pain across america. Another 2. 4 Million People filing for Unemployment Benefits last week. And this morning the tsa released new guide lines for passengers, including passengers scanning their own boarding passes and placing smaller bags in bins and carrying 12ounce container of Hand Sanitizer in their carryon bag. Joining me now, White House Reporter kristen welker, White House Reporter ashley parter and the cohost of making the call podcast. Kristen, lets talk about the president. Hes expected to leave within the next half hour or so. Hes already gone up against gretchen whitmer, governor of michigan. Hes gone up against the secretary of state. He inaccurately tweeted against their bailin balloting to michiganders. Lets talk about whether or not he will wear a mask. Andrea, he will be visiting a ford manufacturing plant that is now making ventilators. They require people who visit, everyone there wears a mask. The president was asked about this. He said hell have to see. So we wait and see if hes made a determination about that yet. The white house said hes tested every day, so that has factored into this decision. We have not seen him wear a mask publicly yet, andrea, so it would be a first if he does. He travels to michigan against the backdrop of those tensions you laid out with the states democratic governor. Michigan is dealing not only with the pandemic and those floods that displaced some 10,000 people. The president threatening to withhold aid to the state. If he says they carry out their votebymail initiative, hes trying to make the case there are higher instances of fraud if you vote by mail. The Fact Checkers, let me just read you a few of them, andrea. Mail ballot fraud is incredibly rare. Fact check. Org says election experts have said that fraud vine via mailin ballots are more common in person but still rare. This is something if you talk to the Fact Checkers doesnt hold whi whole lot of merit but it stems up the president s base and we are heading into an election year. So he visits michigan, a battleground state, with that top in mind. This will be his third trip to a battleground state within three weeks. Hes set to depart shortly. It will be a chance for reporters to ask questions about all of that as well as the latest in the coronavirus response, andrea. And the politics ever michigan, battleground state the president won by barely 10,000 or so votes, such an important state. A Popular Democratic governor whos been protested against by a small minority but very, very vocal minority and the floods michigan is going through and the threat to withhold money from michigan as well, that he then backed down from. Thats right. Its a critical battleground state and its one trumps advisers are increasingly nervous about him being able to hold. In part because former Vice President joe biden is quite popular there. I believe thats where he beat senator Bernie Sanders in the primary and in every single county. Its a place where theres a real contrast between the president s message and joe bidens message on trade. The president is hoping his message on trade can resonate in michigan. His attacks we saw about a week ago on joe biden in china, and its a state where joe biden thinks his connection with union voters, blue dot democrats who some of them flipped for trump last time, where he can bring them back into the fold in the democratic party. So its an absolutely critical state. And the final thing as you mentioned, the backdrop is the president s animus with the governor of michigan, its one of the states hes very pubically and repeatedly attacked, criticized. There seems to be some actual policy and directional differences but it also seems to be driven very much by a personal animus against the governor as well. A governor who is high up on a potential list to become the Vice President ial running mate of the apparent nominee joe biden. That could be part of it as well. Dr. Zeke emanuel, i dont want to get you into politics. Lets talk about dr. Fauci though, who has to the Washington Post discussed his concerns about the branding of the Vaccine Initiative from the white house as operation warped speed. He told the Washington Post, people dont understand that because when they hear operation warp speed, they think oh, my god, theyre jumping over all of these steps and theyre going to put us at risk. But also potentially they might also think this is going to happen any time real soon, as the president is talking about a vaccine by the end of the year, which is wildly optimistic, despite some positive signs from some of the developers. What say you . Yeah. Well, we have gotten positive signs and i think the most positive indication weve had this week is that it does look like a vaccine is possible in principle. There was a question whether or not we might be able to get a vaccine that was effective in raising antibodies against the coronavirus because its been hard to raise or develop a vaccine against previous coronaviruses, but this does the new results both in humans and in animals seems to allay that fear and seems like we can at least in theory get a vaccine. Now its important to show in practice we can have a vaccine and it can actually protect people from coronavirus thats still away. And wharp speed, i think dr. Fauci is worried that people, especially the antivaxer movement, who already latched onto this phrase as a negative, worry there wont be enough safety testing, there wont be enough evidence of efficacy and people will be put at risk. And its very important that scientists do demonstrate that this vaccine, whatever vaccine we use and probably going to be plural are actually safe in thousands of people and that they closely monitor the safety as we roll it out to hundreds of thousands of millions of people remember, were going to be giving a vaccine to otherwise healthy people, so you really do have to have a very low rate of side effects. And i think thats really whats motivating dr. Fauci. You dont want to feed into the false narrative that vaccines are dangerous to people, and that there might be more harm than benefit from vaccines. Unfortunately, that sort of captures too large a group in the United States. And this play be especially true when we have to administer this kind of vaccine in a new way that youre not necessarily going to go to the Doctors Office or cvs or some other place to get the vaccine. So i do think hes being particularly careful. Thats an important clarification, thank you for that. Because we are seeing a big rise in the Antivax Movement at least online. Hes probably tracking that as well. I also want to ask you about this Columbia University model released today, the New York Times reporting Columbia University Public Health experts saying that 36,000 lives could have been saved if safety guidelines could have been instituted two weeks earlier than they were. Yes. Epidemiologists have been saying this for several months now, that the earlier you intervene, the lower the peak would have been and flattening, and weve had various models that have suggested this. I think whats new about the columbia model is this sort of precision of 36,000 for one week and maybe 80 of the deaths had stayathome physical distancing and other measures been instituted two weeks before. It does indicate not doing this earlier, the president not taking the advice of peter navarro, the Public Health individuals, the Intelligence Community and actually being more aggressive in issuing orders for stay at home and physical distancing probably caused tens of thousands of lives in the United States. I do note hes going to michigan, and this issue of wearing a face mask is a big problem. The president should wear a face mask. He should do what his own advisers, his cdc says is important. Were now getting increasing evidence that face masks are beneficial in terms of reducing the spread, especially if youre in an enclosed space, where most of the transmission is happening. Going outside, theres not that much transmission but indoors is where the transmission is happening and i have noted that neither he nor pence have worn these at many gatherings that are public. Vice president pence didnt wear a face mask at the Space Council meeting earlier. I think they have to begin modeling Good Behavior for americans americans. If were going to open up economies, we have to have people regularly wearing face masks. In hong kong, 99 of the people wear face masks. Thats not the only difference between hong kong and new york where theres dramatically different results. But it is one of the more important differences. If were going to open up businesses, were going to open up summer camps, other parks, face mask wearing has to become the norm for 99 of the population. Dr. Zeke emanuel, thank you so much. Thanks, ashley parker. Thank you kristen welker. We will all be watching for the president s departure and anything he might say about all of this. And speaking about michigan and his trip and as to whether or not he will wear a face mask, we should also point out the Vice President in florida yesterday was at the coke machine with Governor Desantis not wearing a face mask. He was surrounded by people. Joining us now, michigans attorney general joining me ahead of President Trumps arrival in her state. To the ford plant. Thank you very much. Lets talk about the letter youve written to President Trump asking him to comply with the state orders as well as that plants order to wear a mask today. Have you gotten any response or have you gotten any indication from the white house as to what hes going to do . The last i heard about it is that he was taking the matter under advisement, as we say in the legal community. He had not committed to following our state law or following the counsel of ford. He was asked specifically to wear a mask while hes touring the facility. I guess its anybodys guess as to what he will do today. Why has this become almost a political issue . Its a safety issue, and you can choose or not choose to follow those guidances, that guidance. But it seems in some areas this has become a red blue issue or some people falsely claiming its a matter of their rights as an american not to. We have seen protesters in michigan. Some of them armed. Is that have gone up against the governor. How has this evolved . Is it political or just a divide in america . I dont think it would be a divide if we had praise who would be willing to do the right thing. And i think protesters are taking their qs from the president. When he refuses to wear a mask, even though dr. Fauci indicated that is best practices, and i must say in terms of our manufacturing plants like the one hes touring today, these are lengthy discussions that were had between our automakers, uaw and governor. Theyre the ones that decided best practices were in order to properly protect all of the people that work at manufacturing facilities, is simply to wear a mask. Its painless, its easy to do. But we know that it offers so much protection. But every time that you have the president refusing to wear one, it sends this message to all of his supporters that you dont have to follow state law. You dont have to follow these simple protocols. And it puts all of our state residents and all of our workers at great risk. General, while you were talking you were showing pictures of a barber or haircutting protest at the State Capitol yesterday. What was the legality of the president withholding aid as he initially threatened to do from michigan . Its completely illegal. Theres no sound legal basis for him to do that. But unfortunately weve seen him do that before, even when congress had appropriately appropriated money. We saw this, of course, with ukraine. And i would say him withholding money from michigan is not any different in terms of the illegality of him taking that measure. I guess the difference between the ukrainians and michiganers is we actually vote in the president ial election. I can tell you this, if he decides to withhold money from our state that so badly needs it right now, over 5,000 of our state residents dead from covid19. Some of the worst flooding in our state weve ever experienced. Tens of thousands of people displaced. A 6 billion deficit in our state budget. I mean, 22 unemployment. If right now he decides that for political reasons he wants to withhold money from our state, i can promise you michiganeners will remember this come november. Dana nestle, attorney general the state of the michigan. Thank you so much for being with us today. And the president s former lawyer Michael Cohen is back home. Early release after cohen pleaded guilty to you what a judge called a smorgasbord of campaign misconduct including Campaign Finance fraud. Cohen served the rest of the threeyear sentence at his home now as his lawyers request the sentence be kurt shocut short bf what they call unsafe conditions because of the coronavirus. Hes the second Trump Campaign to be released from prison to serve the rest of their sentence at home. Coming up another spike in unemployment last week. Nearly 39 million americans out of work since the onset of the pandemic. How Business Owners are stepping up to help the people struggling the most. Stay with us, youre watching Andrea Mitchell reports on msnbc. Ou need [squawks] only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Wayfair has way more ways to renovate your home, from inspiration to installation. Like way more vanities perfect for you. Nice. Way more unique fixtures and tiles. Pairing. Nice. Way more top brands in sinks and faucets. Way more ways to rule your renovation. Nice on any budget, with free shipping. Wayfair. Way more than furniture. Puberty means personal space. So sports clothes sit around growing odors. Thats why we graduated to tide pods sport. Finally something more powerful than the funk. Tide sport removes even weekold sweat odor. Its got to be tide. The returdraftinging the return of the slide job ripping the wall gasngo bumpnrun the return of loud nascar is back, and xfinity is bringing you the best seat in the house. The Economic News is still dire for many americans. We learned today 2. 4 million more people filed for jobless benefits last week, bringing the total for nine weeks to 38. 6 million. This as the president s top Lawmakers Said they will not enhance whats in place for the pandemic beyond when theyre due to inspire in july. Joining me now is cnbc tech correspondent jo ling kent and a senior fell kwloe from the university miller center. First, joe ling, lets talk about whats happening to other restaurant workers and areas on the west coast. This sector is being hard hit. It is being hard hit and now california is closer to reopening so when you look at the 2. 4 million new jobless claims filed last week in california, they continue to be some of the hardesthit workers. Were talking about 39 million total jobless claims filed over the past two months since midmarch. And thats the same size as the population of california. Inside that large number are a lot of restaurant workers and servers, Restaurant Industry people who have been very hard hit and part of the problem right now is that as these workers need to go back to work, the Unemployment Benefits theyre receiving are actually just about the same as what they may have been making prior. So Restaurant Owners are having challenges, things are come florida kat complicated to get these people rehired. We talked to a prominent Restaurant Owner here in los angeles. Heres how shes feeling right now. How are people coping . I think this is a moment of just large question marks. I think theres just a large of uncertainty in terms of how the industry will get back on its feet. A lot of fear. And i think that feeling of fear is really universal. Its not just this industry, but most. Now, the fear shes talking about there is really across all industries very dre industries, very deeply felt in the restaurant world right now, of course. The Budget Office is now saying this recovery, andrea, will stretch out until the end of next year. So you can imagine what thats doing to the Balance Sheet of these Restaurant Owners and workers who think about where theyre going to be working next and how they will be able to pay their bills and feed their own families, andrea. Jo ling kent, thank you very much in l. A. And the president and Mitch Mcconnell were talking at the senate lunch and they are against extending that enhaensed unemployment benefit put under place under the c. A. R. E. S. Act, an extra 600 a week beyond july. There are a lot of people who have not even gotten the first cuts of this because of the backedup state unemployment benefit system. And we also have gig workers who still havent gotten theirs. How do they justify not including it past july when this is clearly going to include an economic shutdown that goes into august for a lot of people . Andrea, as bad as todays numbers were, and theyre certainly an improvement from previous weeks, its important to understand there are about 38 Million People<\/a> filing for Unemployment Benefits<\/a> last week. And this morning the tsa released new guide lines for passengers, including passengers scanning their own boarding passes and placing smaller bags in bins and carrying 12ounce container of Hand Sanitizer<\/a> in their carryon bag. Joining me now, White House Reporter<\/a> kristen welker, White House Reporter<\/a> ashley parter and the cohost of making the call podcast. Kristen, lets talk about the president. Hes expected to leave within the next half hour or so. Hes already gone up against gretchen whitmer, governor of michigan. Hes gone up against the secretary of state. He inaccurately tweeted against their bailin balloting to michiganders. Lets talk about whether or not he will wear a mask. Andrea, he will be visiting a ford manufacturing plant that is now making ventilators. They require people who visit, everyone there wears a mask. The president was asked about this. He said hell have to see. So we wait and see if hes made a determination about that yet. The white house said hes tested every day, so that has factored into this decision. We have not seen him wear a mask publicly yet, andrea, so it would be a first if he does. He travels to michigan against the backdrop of those tensions you laid out with the states democratic governor. Michigan is dealing not only with the pandemic and those floods that displaced some 10,000 people. The president threatening to withhold aid to the state. If he says they carry out their votebymail initiative, hes trying to make the case there are higher instances of fraud if you vote by mail. The Fact Checkers<\/a>, let me just read you a few of them, andrea. Mail ballot fraud is incredibly rare. Fact check. Org says election experts have said that fraud vine via mailin ballots are more common in person but still rare. This is something if you talk to the Fact Checkers<\/a> doesnt hold whi whole lot of merit but it stems up the president s base and we are heading into an election year. So he visits michigan, a battleground state, with that top in mind. This will be his third trip to a battleground state within three weeks. Hes set to depart shortly. It will be a chance for reporters to ask questions about all of that as well as the latest in the coronavirus response, andrea. And the politics ever michigan, battleground state the president won by barely 10,000 or so votes, such an important state. A Popular Democratic<\/a> governor whos been protested against by a small minority but very, very vocal minority and the floods michigan is going through and the threat to withhold money from michigan as well, that he then backed down from. Thats right. Its a critical battleground state and its one trumps advisers are increasingly nervous about him being able to hold. In part because former Vice President<\/a> joe biden is quite popular there. I believe thats where he beat senator Bernie Sanders<\/a> in the primary and in every single county. Its a place where theres a real contrast between the president s message and joe bidens message on trade. The president is hoping his message on trade can resonate in michigan. His attacks we saw about a week ago on joe biden in china, and its a state where joe biden thinks his connection with union voters, blue dot democrats who some of them flipped for trump last time, where he can bring them back into the fold in the democratic party. So its an absolutely critical state. And the final thing as you mentioned, the backdrop is the president s animus with the governor of michigan, its one of the states hes very pubically and repeatedly attacked, criticized. There seems to be some actual policy and directional differences but it also seems to be driven very much by a personal animus against the governor as well. A governor who is high up on a potential list to become the Vice President<\/a> ial running mate of the apparent nominee joe biden. That could be part of it as well. Dr. Zeke emanuel, i dont want to get you into politics. Lets talk about dr. Fauci though, who has to the Washington Post<\/a> discussed his concerns about the branding of the Vaccine Initiative<\/a> from the white house as operation warped speed. He told the Washington Post<\/a>, people dont understand that because when they hear operation warp speed, they think oh, my god, theyre jumping over all of these steps and theyre going to put us at risk. But also potentially they might also think this is going to happen any time real soon, as the president is talking about a vaccine by the end of the year, which is wildly optimistic, despite some positive signs from some of the developers. What say you . Yeah. Well, we have gotten positive signs and i think the most positive indication weve had this week is that it does look like a vaccine is possible in principle. There was a question whether or not we might be able to get a vaccine that was effective in raising antibodies against the coronavirus because its been hard to raise or develop a vaccine against previous coronaviruses, but this does the new results both in humans and in animals seems to allay that fear and seems like we can at least in theory get a vaccine. Now its important to show in practice we can have a vaccine and it can actually protect people from coronavirus thats still away. And wharp speed, i think dr. Fauci is worried that people, especially the antivaxer movement, who already latched onto this phrase as a negative, worry there wont be enough safety testing, there wont be enough evidence of efficacy and people will be put at risk. And its very important that scientists do demonstrate that this vaccine, whatever vaccine we use and probably going to be plural are actually safe in thousands of people and that they closely monitor the safety as we roll it out to hundreds of thousands of millions of people remember, were going to be giving a vaccine to otherwise healthy people, so you really do have to have a very low rate of side effects. And i think thats really whats motivating dr. Fauci. You dont want to feed into the false narrative that vaccines are dangerous to people, and that there might be more harm than benefit from vaccines. Unfortunately, that sort of captures too large a group in the United States<\/a>. And this play be especially true when we have to administer this kind of vaccine in a new way that youre not necessarily going to go to the Doctors Office<\/a> or cvs or some other place to get the vaccine. So i do think hes being particularly careful. Thats an important clarification, thank you for that. Because we are seeing a big rise in the Antivax Movement<\/a> at least online. Hes probably tracking that as well. I also want to ask you about this Columbia University<\/a> model released today, the New York Times<\/a> reporting Columbia University<\/a> Public Health<\/a> experts saying that 36,000 lives could have been saved if safety guidelines could have been instituted two weeks earlier than they were. Yes. Epidemiologists have been saying this for several months now, that the earlier you intervene, the lower the peak would have been and flattening, and weve had various models that have suggested this. I think whats new about the columbia model is this sort of precision of 36,000 for one week and maybe 80 of the deaths had stayathome physical distancing and other measures been instituted two weeks before. It does indicate not doing this earlier, the president not taking the advice of peter navarro, the Public Health<\/a> individuals, the Intelligence Community<\/a> and actually being more aggressive in issuing orders for stay at home and physical distancing probably caused tens of thousands of lives in the United States<\/a>. I do note hes going to michigan, and this issue of wearing a face mask is a big problem. The president should wear a face mask. He should do what his own advisers, his cdc says is important. Were now getting increasing evidence that face masks are beneficial in terms of reducing the spread, especially if youre in an enclosed space, where most of the transmission is happening. Going outside, theres not that much transmission but indoors is where the transmission is happening and i have noted that neither he nor pence have worn these at many gatherings that are public. Vice president pence didnt wear a face mask at the Space Council<\/a> meeting earlier. I think they have to begin modeling Good Behavior<\/a> for americans americans. If were going to open up economies, we have to have people regularly wearing face masks. In hong kong, 99 of the people wear face masks. Thats not the only difference between hong kong and new york where theres dramatically different results. But it is one of the more important differences. If were going to open up businesses, were going to open up summer camps, other parks, face mask wearing has to become the norm for 99 of the population. Dr. Zeke emanuel, thank you so much. Thanks, ashley parker. Thank you kristen welker. We will all be watching for the president s departure and anything he might say about all of this. And speaking about michigan and his trip and as to whether or not he will wear a face mask, we should also point out the Vice President<\/a> in florida yesterday was at the coke machine with Governor Desantis<\/a> not wearing a face mask. He was surrounded by people. Joining us now, michigans attorney general joining me ahead of President Trump<\/a>s arrival in her state. To the ford plant. Thank you very much. Lets talk about the letter youve written to President Trump<\/a> asking him to comply with the state orders as well as that plants order to wear a mask today. Have you gotten any response or have you gotten any indication from the white house as to what hes going to do . The last i heard about it is that he was taking the matter under advisement, as we say in the legal community. He had not committed to following our state law or following the counsel of ford. He was asked specifically to wear a mask while hes touring the facility. I guess its anybodys guess as to what he will do today. Why has this become almost a political issue . Its a safety issue, and you can choose or not choose to follow those guidances, that guidance. But it seems in some areas this has become a red blue issue or some people falsely claiming its a matter of their rights as an american not to. We have seen protesters in michigan. Some of them armed. Is that have gone up against the governor. How has this evolved . Is it political or just a divide in america . I dont think it would be a divide if we had praise who would be willing to do the right thing. And i think protesters are taking their qs from the president. When he refuses to wear a mask, even though dr. Fauci indicated that is best practices, and i must say in terms of our manufacturing plants like the one hes touring today, these are lengthy discussions that were had between our automakers, uaw and governor. Theyre the ones that decided best practices were in order to properly protect all of the people that work at manufacturing facilities, is simply to wear a mask. Its painless, its easy to do. But we know that it offers so much protection. But every time that you have the president refusing to wear one, it sends this message to all of his supporters that you dont have to follow state law. You dont have to follow these simple protocols. And it puts all of our state residents and all of our workers at great risk. General, while you were talking you were showing pictures of a barber or haircutting protest at the State Capitol<\/a> yesterday. What was the legality of the president withholding aid as he initially threatened to do from michigan . Its completely illegal. Theres no sound legal basis for him to do that. But unfortunately weve seen him do that before, even when congress had appropriately appropriated money. We saw this, of course, with ukraine. And i would say him withholding money from michigan is not any different in terms of the illegality of him taking that measure. I guess the difference between the ukrainians and michiganers is we actually vote in the president ial election. I can tell you this, if he decides to withhold money from our state that so badly needs it right now, over 5,000 of our state residents dead from covid19. Some of the worst flooding in our state weve ever experienced. Tens of thousands of people displaced. A 6 billion deficit in our state budget. I mean, 22 unemployment. If right now he decides that for political reasons he wants to withhold money from our state, i can promise you michiganeners will remember this come november. Dana nestle, attorney general the state of the michigan. Thank you so much for being with us today. And the president s former lawyer Michael Cohen<\/a> is back home. Early release after cohen pleaded guilty to you what a judge called a smorgasbord of campaign misconduct including Campaign Finance<\/a> fraud. Cohen served the rest of the threeyear sentence at his home now as his lawyers request the sentence be kurt shocut short bf what they call unsafe conditions because of the coronavirus. Hes the second Trump Campaign<\/a> to be released from prison to serve the rest of their sentence at home. Coming up another spike in unemployment last week. Nearly 39 million americans out of work since the onset of the pandemic. How Business Owners<\/a> are stepping up to help the people struggling the most. Stay with us, youre watching Andrea Mitchell<\/a> reports on msnbc. Ou need [squawks] only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Wayfair has way more ways to renovate your home, from inspiration to installation. Like way more vanities perfect for you. Nice. Way more unique fixtures and tiles. Pairing. Nice. Way more top brands in sinks and faucets. Way more ways to rule your renovation. Nice on any budget, with free shipping. Wayfair. Way more than furniture. Puberty means personal space. So sports clothes sit around growing odors. Thats why we graduated to tide pods sport. Finally something more powerful than the funk. Tide sport removes even weekold sweat odor. Its got to be tide. The returdraftinging the return of the slide job ripping the wall gasngo bumpnrun the return of loud nascar is back, and xfinity is bringing you the best seat in the house. The Economic News<\/a> is still dire for many americans. We learned today 2. 4 million more people filed for jobless benefits last week, bringing the total for nine weeks to 38. 6 million. This as the president s top Lawmakers Said<\/a> they will not enhance whats in place for the pandemic beyond when theyre due to inspire in july. Joining me now is cnbc tech correspondent jo ling kent and a senior fell kwloe from the university miller center. First, joe ling, lets talk about whats happening to other restaurant workers and areas on the west coast. This sector is being hard hit. It is being hard hit and now california is closer to reopening so when you look at the 2. 4 million new jobless claims filed last week in california, they continue to be some of the hardesthit workers. Were talking about 39 million total jobless claims filed over the past two months since midmarch. And thats the same size as the population of california. Inside that large number are a lot of restaurant workers and servers, Restaurant Industry<\/a> people who have been very hard hit and part of the problem right now is that as these workers need to go back to work, the Unemployment Benefits<\/a> theyre receiving are actually just about the same as what they may have been making prior. So Restaurant Owners<\/a> are having challenges, things are come florida kat complicated to get these people rehired. We talked to a prominent Restaurant Owner<\/a> here in los angeles. Heres how shes feeling right now. How are people coping . I think this is a moment of just large question marks. I think theres just a large of uncertainty in terms of how the industry will get back on its feet. A lot of fear. And i think that feeling of fear is really universal. Its not just this industry, but most. Now, the fear shes talking about there is really across all industries very dre industries, very deeply felt in the restaurant world right now, of course. The Budget Office<\/a> is now saying this recovery, andrea, will stretch out until the end of next year. So you can imagine what thats doing to the Balance Sheet<\/a> of these Restaurant Owners<\/a> and workers who think about where theyre going to be working next and how they will be able to pay their bills and feed their own families, andrea. Jo ling kent, thank you very much in l. A. And the president and Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> were talking at the senate lunch and they are against extending that enhaensed unemployment benefit put under place under the c. A. R. E. S. Act, an extra 600 a week beyond july. There are a lot of people who have not even gotten the first cuts of this because of the backedup state unemployment benefit system. And we also have gig workers who still havent gotten theirs. How do they justify not including it past july when this is clearly going to include an economic shutdown that goes into august for a lot of people . Andrea, as bad as todays numbers were, and theyre certainly an improvement from previous weeks, its important to understand there are about 38 Million People<\/a> who applied for unemployment, add another 9 million gig workers on top of that, thats 47 Million People<\/a> who applied for some kind of unemployment. Thats about 30 of the u. S. Labor force. These extended payments, as you just pointed out, expire in a couple of months. We know this economic crisis is going to continue well into 2021 and its way too soon to be cutting off these Unemployment Benefits<\/a> because what happens is once these enhanced benefits go away, youre back to getting what was the norm under state law. And in florida, for instance, if you apply for unemployment insurance, normally you would receive 275 a week. Thats less than the amount of minimum wage. Thats going to create another problem down the road, because people arent going to have enough money, theyre not going to be able to pay their rent or buy groceries. On top of all of that, still nothing has been done to help cashstrapped states right now. You just had the Michigan Attorney<\/a> general who said theyre running a 6 billion deficit. The only thing they can do at this point is start to cut teachers and police and firefighters. , the people who are on the front lines of responding to this crisis. So the economic refleefds to be extended at this period of time instead of the u. S. Senate spending their time this week confirming more judges. And in fact at this hour confirming the new head of National Intelligence<\/a> john radcliffe. Chris, we hope we can talk soon. Theres so much more to talk about with you but were awaiting for the president s departure as well. We have a lot on the plate today. Thank you for joining us. Coming up brazil hitting a record high for new coronavirus as President Trump<\/a> considers a travel ban from brazil. Next, we will be live in so poll. E in so poll i dont keep track of regrets and i dont add up the years, but what i do count on. Is boost high protein. And now, theres boost mobility. With key nutrients to help support. Joints, muscles, and bones. Try boost mobility, with added collagen. Truly transformative sleep. So, no more tossing and turning. Because only tempurpedic adapts and responds to your body. So you get deep, uninterrupted sleep. During the tempurpedic summer of sleep, all tempurpedic mattresses are on sale during the tempurpedic summer of sleep, this virus is testing all of us. And its testing the people on the front lines of this fight most of all. So abbott is getting new tests into their hands, delivering the critical results they need. And until this fight is over, we. Will. Never. Quit. Because they never quit. Skyrocketing in latin america. In brazils largest city, sao paulo, workers are digging mass graves as the daily death toll reached 1,000 for the first time tuesday and brazil is now the country with the third highest number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the world, behind just the u. S. And russia. President trump said hes considering banning travel from brazil, as brazilian president bolsonaro continues to downplay the health crisis. Nbc news global correspondent bill neely joins us now from sao paulo. Youre near one of the citys largest pa villas. What are people there saying and the governor there saying . Yes, andrea, soao paulo is te new global hot spot. This slum area ironically called Paradise City<\/a> is the most densely populated area of latin america. Weve come to give you an illustration really of how difficult it is when governors say social distancing is the most important thing because here there are 100,000 people in 1 square mile. People live sometimes six to a room. Running water and soap, theyre just luxuries. So a lot of the things we take for granted, people here cant really abide by those rules. Just a few minutes ago there was a car going through here saying,isaying, please stay at home. If you feel ill, contact us and well take you to the hospital. These people are particularly vulnerable. Andrea, theyre listening to two messages. One is from the president who says dont worry about social distancing, get out to work. The truth is a lot of people in these areas desperately need to work. And then theyre listening to the governors who are saying stay at home. Lockdown is really important. I spoke to the governor of sool paolo last night and he is frustrated and hes angry at his president because he sees what the president is saying and doing is not only dangerous but almost criminal. Lets take a quick listen to what the governor of sao paulo said. This is dangerous. Were going to have someone as president of brazil saying to the people, go to streets, go to restaurants. We have right now a war with two viruses, the coronavirus and bolsonaro virus. Andrea, as i was saying, the situation really is critical. We were at a cemetery where theyre using mechanical diggers to dig thousands of individual graves not mass graves but individual graves for the next lot of people who are coming. 60 funerals at one cemetery yesterday. As i said, 2,000 deaths in the last 48 hours. 20,000 new cases in one day. So coronavirus spreading more quickly here than anywhere on earth. And we were at a hospital as well, which was full. Indeed, i have just come from a soccer stadium thats been theyre not playing soccer there anymore. Theres a Field Hospital<\/a> right across the field because all of the major hospitals are actually full. So a real catastrophe happening here in brazil before our very eyes, andrea. And bolsonaro a great aqua light of President Trump<\/a>s. Please say safe bill neely and your great producer and camera, be careful there. Youre really in a hot spot. Thank you for joining us today from brazil. As brazils president pushes the use of hydroxychloroquine, President Trump<\/a> has said he will stop taking the risky drug at the end of the prescribed course some time this week, according to the president. Joining me now, dr. Vin gupta, medical contributor and pulmonologist from the university of washington. Dr. Gupta, thank you. What do you say about what the president has been doing in terms of the example hes setting by taking this drug . Andrea, good to be with you. You know, i was struck by that segment out of brazil. I just have to make a comment that it seems like president bolsonaro is trying to do his best President Trump<\/a> impression, whether its touting hydroxychloroquine to your point, no evidence. Whats the is prescription period when theres no indication in the first place for hydroxychloroquine as prophylaxis or treatment for covid19 . Whats the prescribed course . It doesnt even make sense. The fda is saying theres no case for this. I dont know who is empowering the president to make these decisions. If its his white house physician, its irresponsible for his white house physician to do that. Its not in keeping what were taught in medical school, which was do no harm. Thats one. Number two, the social distancing piece out of brazil, it makes me think about that Research Study<\/a> out of columbia published yesterday that got a lot of attention. Americans, like brazilians, need to feel empowered to socially distance themselves from their workplace and others, meaning they need policies to know they will get a check in the mail if theyre not going to work. Its okay their bosses are not going to exact revenge or fire them if they goept show up to work. So it starts from the top. We already know. We already know tens of thousands of americans died needs inially because the president didnt act sooner here in the United States<\/a> and bolsonaro is doing the same thing in brazil. Its irresponsible, Public Health<\/a> malpractice, and people pr dyeing. And its just heartbreaking to see that in brazil and my colleague right in the middle of it, obviously im concerned about my colleague and friend, but millions of people in an enormous country that are getting exactly the wrong message from their own president. Thats right, andrea. Heres the thing, were having one authoritarian leader here in the United States<\/a> inform the practices of other authorityian leaders globally. This is nonscientific, this is nonevidence based, but its obviously having a domino effect. What happens here, people are clearly feeling empowered elsewhere to follow suit. Because what the president of the United States<\/a> says matters. Americans hear fill prescriptions for hydroxychloroquine at a rate 46 times higher after the president endorsed it strongly in march. Now bolsonaros following suit and the president s roadmap for who knows what, catastrophe in the study of covid19. What President Trump<\/a> does matters. It matters for his own health. If hes really actually taking hydroxychloroquine hes putting himself at risk. And now brazilians and americans at risk as weve seen the effects here. Fupt unfortunately tens of thousands of americans have died. Dr. Vin gupta, thank you very much. Thank you for being here, as always. Weve not seen much of dr. Anthony fauci at White House Events<\/a> lately but we may see him in unusual places today. Hes took over an account with alist celebrities including Julia Roberts<\/a>, who was more than just a little excited to speak with the good doctor. How rad we have maybe the coolest man on the planet right now. Wow, clears the room. This is intense. Does anybody else whoa hi, there. Good morning. Good morning. Oh, this is such a thrill. How are you . Pretty good, i guess, you know. Its a little bit like running on fumes for a couple of months. I would imagine. How much sleep do you get . I get reasonably good 5 1 2 hours now. Last month i was getting three. And three doesnt work any more than two, three days in a row. I started to really feel like i was falling apart. Im sorry, sir, but you are not allowed to fall apart. I wont, i promise. You talked about getting back to normal. Dont you think what might help us as a society is accepting the fact that normal is never going to be exactly what it once was. And to accept that and maybe shape that in a positive way moving forward. I really like the way you put that. Im going to plagiarize you later on in the day. If you dont mind. I think you put it in the right way by saying we should look at it almost in a positive way. People say, do you think well be back to normal this summer . I say i dont really think so. It may be a new normal but its not going to be the way we had it before. Were talking about an appreciation for what Something Like<\/a> this has done and can do and take care to get back to as much as normal as we possibly can. And if the new normal is the awareness of our vulnerability to these type of things, thats looking at it in a positive, potentially constructive way. Thats good to hear from dr. Fauci. Our thanks to Julia Roberts<\/a> and thanks to the one campaign. We will be right back. Its time for the Memorial Day Sale<\/a> on the sleep number 360 smart bed. Can it help keep me asleep . Absolutely, it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both comfortable. Save 1,000 on the sleep number 360\u00ae special Edition Smart<\/a> bed. Plus 0 interest for 36 months free delivery when you add a base. You should be mad they gave this guy a promotion. You should be mad at forced camaraderie. And you should be mad at tech that makes things worse. But youre not mad, because you have e trade, whos tech makes life easier by automatically adding technical patterns on charts and helping you understand what they mean. Dont get mad. Get e trades simplified technical analysis. Confident financial plans, calming financial plans, complete financial plans. Theyre all possible with a cfp\u00ae professional. Find yours at letsmakeaplan. Org. With states reopening despite warnings of a possible second wave of covid19 infections, theres still no unified federal plan to test, Contact Trace<\/a> and ensure Vital Services<\/a> are not interrupted. But now theres growing support for planning and funding programs like americorps to do exactly that. Joining me now are Los Angeles Mayor<\/a> Eric Garcetti<\/a> and delaware senator chris coons, who are both supporting these initiatives. Senator coons, we talked to you before about the legislation which is bipartisan. How would this work . Andrea, thank you for a chance to be on and great to be on with my friend mayor garcetti, whos help lead this effort in los angeles and cities across the country. We have more than 80 cosponsors in the house and the senate of a bipartisan bill that would expand the existing National Service<\/a> program best known as americorps. It would increase the pay modestly. It would increase the Education Award<\/a> earned by members, but it would double this year the number of opportunity slots. So that would make it possible for 150,000 americans who are currently unemployed or who are looking for an opportunity to serve to be engaged in response. This would be locally led and driven by commissions that already exist all over our country, appointed by governors, that include nonprofit leaders, state and local government leaders, Civic Leaders<\/a> and they would approve specifically targeted programs. In some states and cities they might do Contact Tracing<\/a> and testing. In others they might help with combating hunger by supporting food banks. In others they might work to support education, to provide needed enrichment and connectivity over the summer and into the fall. Theres lots of different ways that a new generation of americans can step forward and serve our nation. Im grateful mayor garcetti has led a letter that has more than 50 bipartisan mayors supporting this bill around the country. And mayor garcetti, youve been a leader out in california. Youve already started expanding Contact Tracing<\/a>. How would this work in cities such as yours, as you have one of the largest cities in the country, obviously . I want to thank senator kunz for his extraordinary leadership. Im proud to be alongside him and all of my fellow brothers and sisters across this country. Simply put, we have hundreds of people out of work and hundreds of thousands of jobs we need filled. The quicker we can do Contact Tracing<\/a>, helping individuals and businesss with benefits from the federal government, maybe even doing things like cleaning up cities and investing in infrastructure, the quicker we can get this economy back going. For a few billion dollars we can unleash a trillion dollars of Economic Activity<\/a> sooner. Our state says we need a certain number of Contact Trace<\/a>rs. Were quickly trying to get that but we have outofwork people and this need. This is a beautiful way to come together just as we did during the depression with the civilian conservation corps, war on poverty with the teacher corps, its time for this generation to have its c. A. R. E. S. Corps to stand up, step up and do this fork america. Let me ask you both, the president is now leaving for michigan. Hes going into a state that requires wearing a face covering. He hasnt said yet, as far as i know, whether he is going to wear a mask. He has not been seen wearing one and hes also, as you know, done things that go against cdc guidelines and against fda warnings in taking a risky medication. Mayor garcetti, what should the president do in terms of the way he models behavior for the rest of the country . Simply put, hes our commander in chief. I say real men wear face masks. When theyre going to be with other people in public, its our gateway to increasing freedom and more Economic Activity<\/a> and greater opening up. I think modeling that is something so important for all of our leaders, and any men who dont want to wear face masks got to get over ourselves and just do it. Senator coons, youre view on all of this. Andrea, i just took my mask off for the beginning of this interview and will put it back on as soon as im off camera. Scientific studies show if people wear face masks regularly, we can ut can the spread by 80 . The president , a role model, as we heard in your last segment talking about hydroxychloroquine, the numbers of folks trying to get on this medication and take this medication went up dramatically. I was once decades ago on hydroxychloroquine but for an appropriate prescribed purpose, preventing malaria when i was a student in africa decades ago. Theres no positive benefit from this. When President Trump<\/a> refuses to take simple steps to follow siechbs, to follow our Public Health<\/a> leaders like dr. Fauci and the recommendations that weve heard from organizations and entities around the country that are responsible for leadership on this, he is not just setting a bad example but in some ways actively misleading the American People<\/a> in a way that has prolonged this tragedy. Some time in the next few days we will pass the mark of 100,000 americans who will have died from this pandemic in every state, in every territory. We need leadership that helps us show the way forward out of this. Senator coons, thank you so very much. Mayor garcetti, as always, its great to have you with us as well. Thanks and be safe. And there are also more than 60 million americans with disabilities. For many of them, the pandemic is creating lifeordeath situations. 29yearold jerry flores of rochester, new york, who had pneumonia in january is worried. In an april time article she said, quote, iffing i get this, im going to die. This is not an unfounded fear. Flores has seen ral palsy. She uses a wheelchair. She needs assistance with everyday tasks including making food and guessing dressed. This means its tougher for her immune system to kick illnesses. Joining us now is a pediatrician, and chief Health Officer<\/a> for Special Olympics<\/a> for people with intellectual disabilities and other disabilities who perform so wonderfully in Special Olympics<\/a> and are unable to do that. They cant train. So many other things they cant have this summer during the pandemic. Thank you very much, doctor, for joining us. Tell us, how are Special Olympics<\/a> coping or trying to help people cope with the enormous strain of the pandemic . Thank you so much. We at Special Olympics<\/a>, when we cant be in our competitions, in our events, we still are every day connecting with our athletes to make sure they arent socially isolated, to make sure that they dont experience this sense that they are alone. We want to make sure that theyre fit at home. We want to make sure that they have the messaging that theyre able to protect themselves, and cope with the conditions were in with regard to covid right now. Were also working with the cdc to make sure that we get more information on people with intellectual disabilities and make sure we get the data because we know there are high risk populations. And at Special Olympics<\/a>, were often thought of as sports but we are a huge Health Organization<\/a> and doing critical work around the country to protect people with intellectual disabilities. We do screenings, were continuing that, Health Screenings<\/a> and continuing our fitness work, our strong minds work to make sure that we have coping skills available and working in advocacy as well. How much of a challenge is this for parents of Young Children<\/a>, Young Children<\/a> with down syndrome and other challenges who are at home who ever vulnerable . Their immune systems are vulnerable. What can be done online . How do you meet these needs . So thank you for asking. We have millions of children around the country and around the globe who are out of school, they arent the conditions in terms of developmental stimulation they typically would. We have a program that is called the Young Athletes<\/a> program. It works with very Young Children<\/a> under 7 to give them the exercises and activities they can do at home. We are typically in parks and libraries and the headstart system in the u. S. Now were doing this online. It is really difficult, though, for those families to be able to address the needs and get the support that they need. Were also doing that through our Family Health<\/a> forums where parents can connect up to other parents online and in even other kinds of settings where there isnt such an Online Presence<\/a> using text or using the phone to be able to do that. Were really trying to connect up every day. The other area that we really need to connect up on is our health care professionals. Theyre out there every single day trying to do their best for people, including people with intellectual disabilities, but over 80 of Health Professionals<\/a> have never been trained on how to treat people with intellectual disabilities and we want to make sure they are doing that. There are four simple things you can do as a health care professional. Certainly communication to the family and to the individual with intellectual disabilities. We need to do that clearly. Make sure were not using a lot of jargon or crossword puzzle words we often do as doctors. Make sure that we have support people available to them is the second step. Make sure that even if that isnt in person, a support person is available by phone or video call. The third thing is to make sure that people with intellectual disabilities are prepared for the procedures for the situations they might be in with covid. For example, its hard for anybody to get a nasal swab, particularly for, just as youre saying, a child with down syndrome and an adult cerebral palsy. All of that may make it much more difficult to do a nasal swab or to participate in a chest xray and hold still. And finally, making sure that we are having a were going to have to revisit this, dr. Bazzano. Im glad we got that in. We have to get back to the white house. Well, of course, continue to touch base with you. And heres the president s comments on departure from michigan. We always have to remember that. The people that have lost their lives. If you have any questions . Mr. President , where are you on funding for michigan . A lot of people are concerned theyre flooded out. Thats the last thing they were looking at the floods. We have our people from the army corps of engineers there. We have fema there. I spoke with the governor, governor whitmer, yesterday, and we have a very good understanding, but weve moved our best people into michigan and our most talented engineers, designers, the people from the army corps of engineers, and they do these things better than probe anyone in the world. What about the funding, though . Well take a look. Well take a look. That was unrelated to that. [ inaudible ]. Russia and us have developed very Good Relationship<\/a>. As you know, we worked on the oil problem together. I think we have a very Good Relationship<\/a> with russia, but russia didnt adhere to the treaty so until they adhere, well pull out. But theres a very good chance well make a new agreement or do something to put that agreement back together. But whenever theres an agreement that another party doesnt agree to, we have many of those agreements around the world where its a twoparty agreement but they dont adhere to it, and we do. When we have things like that, we pull out also. Thats why the arms treaties, if you look at the arms treaties, were probably going to make a deal with russia on arms treaty and russia will be maybe included in that. Well see what happens. But we have a lot of things. When we have an agreement, a treaty and the other side doesnt adhere to it, in many cases, theyre old treaties, old agreements, then we pull out also. So i think whats going to happen is were going to pull out, and theyre going to come back and want to make a deal. Weve had a very Good Relationship<\/a> lately with russia. And you can see that with respect to oil and whats happening with oil. What about Michael Cohen<\/a> getting out of jail today . I didnt know that. Any reaction . [ inaudible ]. Say again . Going to make things worse with russia, increase tensions . No, i think well have a very Good Relationship<\/a> with russia. I think that if you look at what happened with oil where russia, saudi arabia and us got together and we saved in our country millions of energy jobs. You see oil now is solidifying. So its the best of all worlds. Were saving the energy jobs, but our drivers have a very low gasoline price. Are you going to wear a mask today at the ford plant . I dont know. Well look at that. A lot of people have asked me that question. I want to get our country back to normal. I want to normalize. One of the other things i want to do is get the churches open. The churches are not being treated with respect by a lot of the democrat governors. I want to get our churches open. And were going to take a very strong position on that very soon. Mr. President [ inaudible ]. Including mosques. Including mosques. [ inaudible ]. Yes, i wish them well. Very well. Go ahead. The astrazeneca award for doses of a potential new vaccine. How confident are you that one will be ready by the fall . You have astrazeneca, which is a great company, and you have others, johnson johnson. We have a lot of things happening on the vaccine front. On the therapeutic front. Therapeutically, were doing great. And on the cure front, which is the next step. I think we have tremendous things. That announcement i heard came out this morning. Thats a very positive announcement, in addition to all of the other announcements. We are so far ahead of where people thought wed be, but therapeutically, its very interesting whats going on and cure. So youll have a lot of big announcements over the next week or two. You said the funding for michigan was another issue not related to the flood. Can you were helping michigan with their flood, and we have the people to do it. You said federal funding for the we dont want them to do mailin ballots because its going to lead to total Election Fraud<\/a> so we dont want them to do mailin ballots. We dont want anyone to do mailin ballots. If somebody has to mail it in because theyre sick or, by the way, because they live in the white house and they have to vote in florida and they wont be in florida, if theres a reason for it, thats okay. If theres a reason. But if theres not we dont want to take any chances with fraud in our elections. The Chinese Parliament<\/a> is passing a National Security<\/a> law cracking down on hong kong. Are you aware of this . I dont know what it is because nobody knows yet. If it happens, well address that issue very strongly. What about your plans for the weekend . It looks like g7 may be on. Were ahead of schedule in terms of our country and some of the other countries are doing very well. It looks like g7 will be on. A full g7, and well be announcing something probably early next week. [ inaudible ]. I cant hear you. You have your mask on. I cant hear a word. [ inaudible ]. Well be talking to you about it. How long do you expect to take hydroxychloroquine . I think its another day. I had a twoweek regimen of hydroxychloroquine. And i have taken it, i think, just about two weeks. I think its another day. And im still here. Im still here. And i tested very positively in another sense. So this morning, yeah, i tested positively toward negative, right . No, i tested perfectly this morning. Meaning i tested negative. Have you taken the Antibody Test<\/a> yet . Positively toward the negative. Have you taken the Antibody Test<\/a> yet, sir . No, i have not. Columbia university put out a report in the New York Times<\/a> today that 36,000 people would have been saved if you guys did social distancing just one week earlier. You believe that . Whats your reaction . I was so early, i was earlier than anybody thought. I put a ban of people coming in from china. Everybody fought me on that. They didnt want it. Nancy pelosi a month later was dancing in the streets of San Francisco<\/a> in chinatown so that people wouldnt believe whats happening and i dont even blame that. But i was way early. Columbias an institution thats very liberal. Its a i think its just a political hit job, you want to know the truth. You want to have the g7 at the white house or camp david . Were going to have it probably at the white house and maybe a little combination at camp david. Primarily at the white house. So if we do the g7, when that all comes together, probably it will be in d. C. At the white house. Okay . But there could be a piece of it at camp david, which is nearby. [ inaudible ]. So, again, our relationship with russia has improved greatly, especially since the russian hoax has been proven totally false and illegal, what they did. This was an illegal hoax. And they got caught. They got caught doing a lot of bad things. So lets see how that turns out. But our relationship with russia has come a long way in the last few months. I think that the open sky will all work out. But right now, when you have an agreement and the other side doesnt adhere to the agreement, were not going to do it either. But i think something very positive will work out. [ inaudible ]. What . The rocket launch . Im thinking about going. That will be next week to the rocket launch. 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