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Permanently citing the risk of further incitement of violence. The company adds in a statement plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off twitter including a proposed secondary attack on the u. S. Capitol and State Capitol buildings on january 17, 2021. Thats actually an emerging threat. We have two experts standing by later in this hour to brief us on that very threat. It turns out all it took to get trump banned from twitter and facebook and instagram was his role in inciting the looting and desecration of our u. S. Capitol. Other protrump groups gathered at state houses across the country threatening state officials along the way. Meanwhile, the momentum is gaining speed to make trump the first president to be impeached twice. Such a thing would settle any argument about historys worst president. Speaker nancy pelosi has thrown down the gauntlet in this area telling trump to resign or face a second impeachment or removal via the 25th amendment. She drew that line in the sand after meeting with her caucus for nearly four hours, and after talking with joint chiefs of staff chairman general mark milley about making sure steps are in place to keep trump from launching military hostilities including but not limited to a nuclear strike. The speaker made the case for action against trump in an interview with 60 minutes. The person thats running the executive branch is a deranged, unhinged, dangerous president of the United States, and its only a nucmber of days until we can e protected from him, but he has done something so serious that there should be prosecution against him. Three house democrats, members of the Speakers Team have already drafted the impeachment titled incitement of insurrection. Nbc news reporting it could be introduced as early as monday. The wording here includes this, quote, the president threatened the integrity of the democratic system, interfered with the peaceful transition of power, and imperilled a coordinate branch of government. He thereby betrayed his trust as president. The white house had this response today, quote, as President Trump said yesterday, this is a time for healing and unity as one nation. A politically motivated impeachment against a president with 12 days remaining in his term will only serve to further divide our great country. Well, this afternoon president elect joe biden was asked if he backed this push for impeachment. Ive thought for a long, long time that President Trump wasnt fit to hold the job. Thats why i ran. Im focused on the virus, the vaccine, and economic growth. What the congress decides to do is for them to decide. Meanwhile, republican senator ben sasse of nebraska and since this may happen again, lets not pause to lets pause to point out he has been a loyal trump vote in the u. S. Senate all these years. He now says hes open to looking at impeaching donald trump. The house, if they come together and have a process, i will definitely consider whatever articles they might move. I believe the president has disregarded his oath of office. Lisa murkowski of alaska now the first republican senator officially to call on trump to step down in an interview with her hometown anchorage daily news, she said quote. I want him to resign. I want him out. He has caused enough damage. He doesnt want it to stay ther. He only wants to stay there for the title. He only wants to stay there for his ego. She went on to question her own membership in what has become the party of trump. Meanwhile, with the inauguration 12 days away, trump today announced he will not be attending the inauguration. Joe biden seemed to be fine with that decision. One of the few things he and i have ever agreed on. Its a good thing im not showing up. Earlier youd said you hoped that he would show up only in the sense it was valuable to send a signal to the world about the transfer of power. Youve clearly changed your perspective on that. Because he has clearly demonstrated, exceeded even my worst notions about him. Hes been an embarrassment to the country. What about the Vice President , mike pence . Hes welcome. And with that, lets bring in our leadoff guests on this friday night, susan page, veteran journalist best selling author, peter baker chief White House Correspondent for the New York Times and jon meacham, Pulitzer Prize winning author, president ial historian. Hes professor on the american presidency at vanderbilt, unofficial adviser to the president elect, and once again relevant to this conversation, both peter and john are among the authors of the book impeachment an american history. Here we are again. Well, susan, you get the big starting question tonight. The task of summing up as a longtime washingtonoian, as a citizen of this country how it felt to watch what transpired in the capitol this week and further, and this may call for speculation. Whats the real chance this guy not serving out his term . You know, ive covered six president s. Ive seen assassination attempts, launches of war, disputed elections, impeachments, two of them already, but ive never seen anything as shocking as what we saw on wednesday. Marauders rushing through the congress, some of them armed carrying ties apparently to take hostages while members of congress fled and cowered. It was ive just never seen anything like it. It was distressing and historic and it will have ramifications for, i think, a very long time for our democracy. I think at this point its going to be hard to keep the house of representatives from impeaching President Trump probably toward the end of next week. I think theres a feeling that its not just to remove him from office. Hes only got 12 more days left. Its to make a point that his role in this was simply unacceptable and deserves historys rebuke. Peter baker, there are real nixonian concerns about the president s mental state, about the numbers of departures from the circle immediately around him. Whos going to be left around him to watch him in the west wing . Yeah, its a great question. There was such an exodus this week of top aides and Administration Officials and cabinet officers in the immediate aftermath of the mob that you began to wonder who would be left. The white house seemed to be emptying out. That caused a lot of consternation among republicans and even some democrats who were worried that maybe, in fact, as tempting as it was for these people to leave in protest to say they didnt want to work there anymore, there was a value in sticking it out for these final two weeks just to watch the store, if you will, to make sure the governments simply running if nothing else and perhaps to serve as some sort of a break on any further erratic action by the president. You had people like i talked this week to former secretary of state of conde rice. She was very concerned, who knows what mischief could be caused by our adversaries overseas thinking were in a period of instability. Youre in a really extraordinary moment where not only as susan aptly described it as we have this devastating, unprecedented attack on the symbol of our democracy, you also have sort of a meltdown on the other end of pennsylvania at the white house where nobodys sure whos running the government and who will happen in these last 12 days. Jon meacham, weve been looking to talk to you this week, though. Theres no joy in asking this next question, and that is i want to measure your level of sadness, your level of worry for our country as you along with the rest of us watched these rioters in, you know, cabelas bass pro shops, camo, red hats. A lot of them armed with zip ties said to be on the lookout for the sitting Vice President and the speaker hoisting the Confederate Flag inside the u. S. Capitol, having set up a noose on Capitol Grounds in the parking lot. The social contract is if not broken frayed, and this is the fullest manifestation of that over the last five years. It has been unspooling. You have done this every day for x number of days telling the story, chronicling this flight from fact, this flight from evidence, a flight from truth however inconvenient to a selfserving vision of reality where power is more important than principle, and the mob, which was figurative until wednesday has become the literal Guiding Force in the republic. And you know, one way to think about civilizational structures is we have a state of nature, thomas hobbs wrote about that, the state of nature is the war of all against all. The point of civilization is to enter into a social contract where we cede certain rights in exchange for certain protections. The entire notion of how we organize ourselves as nonhobbsian entities is really under assault. And thats not hyperbolic, right . Theres nothing were beyond hyperbole if thats possible, and it was, again, without being too sent mimental it was heartbreaking to watch that, and it was particularly heartbreaking because its there seemed to be so little resistance. It seemed that they felt entitled to do what they did. They felt empowered to do what they did. Soldiers have died, protesters have bled in search of a more perfect union, in search of a democratic world where the values of faith, hope, and charity would have at least a fighting chance against our appetites and our ambitions. Thats one of the points of america, and its as disheartening and disspiriting and disturbing a moment in my lifetime with exception of the attacks and the murder of innocents on september 11th. Well, susan, having heard jon lay out the stakes, can you explain the remaining trumpers in the house and senate . When you look at this presidency one way, he leaves office, the democrats control the white house, the house and the senate. What explains the lingering allure of trumpism and trump loyalty . Well, one factor is that he has simply remade the Republican Party in his image. This is a different Republican Party than it was five years ago before he came on the scene, and even now in the wake of this weeks terrible news, 77 of republicans say they approve of the job that President Trump is doing. Thats in a new pbs marist poll that came out today. In the aftermath, 77 still approve, 83 do not want him removed from office. He continues to have standing in the gop, even though weve seen some erosion from some members, republican members of congress and some Business Leaders and others. You know, i think that the supporters of President Trump continue to believe that he speaks for them. He stands up for them, and hes selli telling them the truth when everybody else is lying to them. That is perhaps the biggest challenge or one of the Biggest Challenges that joe biden is going to face when he takes office in just 12 days. Peter baker, your colleagues at the paper report this tonight. Behind closed doors, he, donald trump, made clear that he would not resign, and he expressed regret about releasing that video on thursday committing to a peaceful transition of power and condemning the violence at the capitol that he had egged on a day before. In fact, in his last video he called the rioters special and expressed his love for them. So peter, lay out how you view the remainder of his presidency and when those cannons sound at the conclusion of the oath on the 20th of january a few minutes past noon. Theyre usually audible throughout washington. Is this guy going to be on a golf course in florida . Well, he will not be here to hear the cannons, thats for sure. Hes already told us as you showed earlier that he doesnt plan to attend the inauguration of joe biden, and joe biden obviously as you showed is not all that upset about it. Its the first time, by the way, that any sitting president has boycotted in effect or skipped the swearing in of his successor since Andrew Johnson who jon meacham wrote about in our book on impeachment. Thats not quite the parallel you might have wanted. Hes an impeached president , took into consideration and i suppose theres a certain synergy there. Weve learned at this point to leave the white house on january 19th, the day before the inauguration. He wont even be here when the bidens are moving in, and i think that between now and then we dont know exactly whats going to happen. Theres talk of him going to texas in this coming week to the border to highlight his immigration policies. Hes making another video to promote the accomplishments of his administration as he sees them. If you talk to people who work there both currently and who have left in recent days, theres such a demoralized spirit. People who gave years of their life to this president and feel completely betrayed. The accomplishments feel like theyve all been wiped out, this is such a defining failure on the part of this president. No matter what you thought of him before, and no matter what good things you might have thought he did, they seem to have been overwhelmed and overshadowed and wiped out for the sake of history by this event this week. This is how hes going to be going down in history. I think people who worked for him as well as people who never liked him to begin with, its been a crushing week. One consistent note you hear from most people in washington except for blood relatives for the most part is theyre waiting and cant wait for january 20th for this to be over. Yeah, this was a legacy event no question about it. Hey, jon, David Leonhardt of the the New York Times as i like to say pulled a meacham, in the four months between Franklin Roosevelts election and his 1933 inauguration, much of the world descended into chaos. Adolf hitler took power in germany and the Parliament Building burned. Japan quit the league of nations. In the u. S. , hundreds of banks shuts down, lynchings surged in the south. The country numb and nearly broken anxiously awaited deliverance as David Kennedy wrote in his Pulitzer Prize winning in the history of the era. This is usually your role on this broadcast and the others on this network to tell us to reassure us, to remind us only that things have been worse in the past. Is that still your view . Well, not necessarily that theyve been worse but that theyve been bad and weve come through it, and weve come through it because just enough of us were devoted to this notion that, in fact, we are stronger together as a whole as opposed to seeing politics as this perpetual clash of interests. You know, Franklin Roosevelt the night he took the oath on the east front of the capitol, he went back to the white house and like a good e pis coe pail yan he was having a glass of whiskey a and going to bad. If you succeed in solving the depression youll go down as the greatest president and if you fail youll go down as the worst. Fdr said if i fail ill be the the last. I dont feel that level of existential crisis for president elect biden. I think that the reaction is a good sign in terms of the horror that the country seems to be addressing at this moment, but heres the thing with all respect to my lane, which i love. To some extent, the more important question tonight and in the coming season is less about how history will view whats happened this week and more about the unfolding story of what do people who decided to make their peace with donald trump, not once but twice in two national elections, millions upon millions of people, what do they do now . Do are we so desensitized to genuinely transformative Public Events that somehow or another in the span of a couple of days, a couple of weeks, this is going to be, well, maybe the liberals were exaggerating or you can just see how sort of that part of the political swamp and forest will try to change the perception of this. But this was a fundamental reality, and if the country does not begin again to see that politics is about the mediation of differences and the resolution of problems for a given period of time and not a shermanesque arena for total constant warfarwarfare, then th just a chapter in an unfolding story. Its not the last chapter, and i think thats what all of us as citizens and not as journalists, not as historians as citizens we have to think about is do we want to live in a world where politics is so consuming and so divisive and so ultimately depleting that it keeps us from addressing things like, oh, i dont know, a Global Pandemic that killed 4,000 people today in america. This isnt, you know, this is not an academic conversation. This isnt something youre doing to fill your broadcast. We are facing a deadly virus, a rise in political violence. There are people who are suffering who like the Great Depression are seeing their futures slip away, the inability to provide for their families. This isnt paintball. This isnt pro wrestling. This isnt fundraising text. These are people breaking into the capitol with guns killing a Police Officer and distracting the republic from addressing fundamental questions about the health, safety, and security of millions of people. Jon, thank you for that. Thank you for setting our thinking right as we say farewell to what was a pretty awful week. Susan page, peter baker, jon meacham were in your debt for helping us start out our broadcast on this friday night. Thank you. Coming up, well go behind the curtain. We will sadly dive into the murk of the dark web and find out what the rioters who stormed the capitol are saying now and what they could do next. And later, they were once the president s greatest defenders, some of them outright sold their souls and their seats in congress to donald trump, but now begins the great migration as they start to distance themselves from their president. The 11th hour is just getting underway on this friday night as we bring this consequential week to an end. See every delivery. Every yikes. And even every awwwwwwww. Wait, where was i . Introducing self protection from xfinity. Designed to put you in control. With realtime notifications and a week of uninterrupted recording. All powered by reliable, secure wifi from xfinity. Gotta respect his determination. Its easy and affordable to get started. Get self protection for 10 a month. I believe that some of the delays were seeing and some of the leaders being arrested is because i think the fbi is looking at very serious charges of inciting riot and even worse than that. And of course weve lost a capitol Police Officer, so there will be a murder charge on somebody. But i think grand juries are being convened. I think indictments are going to come down. And the consequences have begun. Justice Department Says 13 people thus far have been charged in federal court with crimes related to wednesdays riot and looting at our capitol. Doj says Richard Barnett of arkansas, the man with his feet up on the desk in the speakers office, hes been arrested, faces several charges including violent entry, theft to public property. Nbc news reporting the extremists made little secret of their plans online. Quote, users talked for weeks about a siege of the capitol. Some talking about it like a forgone conclusion. Others simply debated how violent the uprising should be and if police should be exempt. Well, for more were happy to welcome to the broadcast gen golbeck, an expert in malicious online behavior and a professor for information studies university of maryland. We welcome back clint watts. Former fbi special agent, distinguished Research Fellow at the Foreign Policy research institute. He is also the author of the recent book messing with the enemy surviving in a social media world of hackers, terrorists, russians and fake news. Professor, welcome to the broadcast. Id like to begin with you. How far in advance did you see this coming . Even i saw some of the storm the capitol memes. Some of them were emblazoned on the tshirts of the rioters while they were in the capitol. Thats right. We saw this for weeks leading up to january 6th. We knew that this march was going to happen, and it wasnt just in the dark web, in these kind of not very popular forums. It was on twitter, on facebook, on instagram that we saw people who were planning to attend this march talking about their plans to storm the capitol, and as you led with in this segment talking about how many people they were going to kill and how it was going to happen. Its something that i think a lot of us saw and expected. I dont know that we expected them to actually make it in, but certainly that they were going to try. And clint, will they all in your view and given your experience with the fbi, will they all be found and tried . Yes, brian, one of the great ironies about the antimask movement is it leaves them highly vulnerable to being detected with facial recognition or followed up from just surveillance camera footage, you know, around the country. And i think thats what you saw today not just from probably the fbi internally. They got great mechanisms to do this. They do this all the time, but you also have a crowd Source Community thats very angry online that was combing through all of these pictures because their perpetrators were uploading them onto social media, the internet, onto websites, so they are actually putting evidence out about their own crimes which is from an investigators perspective very unusual but also quite fortunate that you can track a lot of these people down. So i think in the coming weeks, you will see a continuous stream of arrests that continue. The big thing is a lot of these folks scattered afterwards, went back to their hometowns in many different states so it will take some time to get all those i. D. S and trace all of these people out. Professor, now it gets confusing because some in the online maga crowd have seemingly turned against their leader, the president. Theyre shocked apparently to find out hes only going to serve one term, so does that militarize the movement somehow absent the founder . Were really seeing a fracturing right now just annuity last day or so since trump gave his speech yesterday. Theres a big feeling of betrayal that they have put their lives on the line and really committed and all of a sudden hes going to go away. A lot of people who were at the capitol on the 6th are believers in the qanon conspiracy theory. Their line, the plan, they thought there was a secret plan that was going to happen, and now its kind of donning on them that thats not something thats going to come through, and then theyre also seeing the movement itself turning on them with a lot of the acts at the capitol being attributed to antifa. I think what they wanted was to be embraced as people who were patriots defending their country, and instead Republican Congress people are denouncing them. The president is sort of denouncing them, and then within the movement theyre being denied and saying, actually, it was somebody else. And so i think thats making a lot of them less enthusiastic about the action that they had been really committed to up until wednesday. Both guests have agreed to stay with us as we fit in a break, and coming up in our conversation, after wednesdays seditious show of force, the looting and desecration of our capitol, what the camo and zip tie forces are looking at as their next possible outing. I dont have to worry about that, do i . Harmful bacteria lurk just below the gum line. Crest gum detoxify works below the gum line to neutralize harmful plaque bacteria and help reverse early gum damage. Crest. Did you know diarrhea is often causedtry pepto® diarrhea. Food . Its concentrated formula coats and kills bacteria to relieve diarrhea. See, pepto® diarrhea gets to the source, killing the bad bacteria. So, make sure to have pepto® diarrhea on hand. Do you think you need to change any of the planning for your inauguration as a result of this . Totally different entity is in charge of the inauguration that was in charge of protecting the capitol, the secret service. I have great confidence in their ability to make sure that the inauguration goes off, goes off safely, and goes off without a hitch. Now, to the point the president elect was making today, security concerns about the inauguration should be somewhat lessened because it will be declared a National Security special event. That means tons of law enforcement, lots of eyes in the sky from satellites to drones to hilos. Still with us jen goldbeck and clint watts. Professor, back to you again, despite the fact that some of the rioters have been disincentivized in part politically because republicans were eager to put the blame on antifa, some are still incentiviz incentivized. Talk about these planned events. One was mentioned in the twitter statement tonight, a gathering on the 17th. Theres a gathering on the 19th. What is the plan and among who . So on the 17th weve seen something planned from before wednesday for armed groups and it comes from some militia groups and some Second Amendment enthusiasts to march both on the federal capitol in d. C. , but also on State Capitols so gatherings and marches, the point being to show up armed for those. Now, theyve come out since the 6th and said were not going to do what was done on the 6th but they are exclusively planning to show up with guns. Thats something to be concerned about. The 19th and 20th are much more the kind of element we saw on the 6th. Theyre really angry about the election. They feel it was stolen. Theyre also planning in these forums to show up armed. So i think if that manifests, and things can really change a lot in the couple of weeks that we have going, what were going to see is a much smaller contingent but one thats angrier and potentially prepared for violence. We certainly see that in the tweets where theres language like im willing to lay down my life for this, if this is what it comes to, im going to enjoy my last cup of coffee today before i get ready to do this. I think the fbi is going to be looking into who these people are and trying to stop it. We also need to Pay Attention to those actions going on at State Capitols where theres plans to carry out these same kinds of activities. Clint, i always note your unit flags on the wall behind you starting with your days at west point on through your service to the army, and the fbi. You have seen terrorism beyond our borders. How does it look to you within this country legitimized by the leader . Brian, its remarkable. If you rewound ten years, wed be talking about a guy named anwar alaki essentially inciting people to do attacks on the u. S. Homeland. Telling people to attack the targets, maybe the capitol, possibly trying to hit soft targets in the United States. If i went into the online forums today i would be seeing the same things being said by domestic actors, militia groups, extremist groups, accelerationist terrorists who want to speed up a second civil war. President trumps words carry more in that space than anyone elses, and i think to your point even before the commercial break, which we were talking about, what the future looks like. One thing thats interesting was the president was what united many groups over the last several years. One of my colleagues wrote an excellent piece a couple of years back that you have antigovernment groups, white supremacist groups, sovereign citizen type groups, you have just people that want to go against more establishment government all showing up under one leader and thats President Trump. He really binds them together. So i think moving forward what you do have a problem with now is many of these people that perpetrated the attacks at the capitol, they are now heroes in their community, as extreme as they are, they will be seen as heroes. And once they get that just bite of fame if theyre not in jail, i think thats something to worry about, particularly as we move into summer and fall of this coming year. Glad you added caveat if theyre not in jail. Well, sadly were going to need you both to come back on between now and the inauguration. Our thanks for coming on tonight and explaining all of this to us and our audience, professor jen goldbeck and clint watts. Thank you so much. Coming up for us, one of our next guests coined the phrase everything trump touches dies. He wrote a book with that title. The other says those who have stayed with trump should be forced to stay on the bus until the end. Rick wilson along with baritunde thurston when we come back. Taste. Nyquil honey. The nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy head, fever best sleep with a cold medicine. Try natures bounty hair, skin and nails gummies. The number one brand to support beautiful hair, glowing skin, and healthy nails. And try advanced, now with two times more biotin. Did you know diarrhea is often causedtry pepto® diarrhea. Food . Its concentrated formula coats and kills bacteria to relieve diarrhea. See, pepto® diarrhea gets to the source, killing the bad bacteria. So, make sure to have pepto® diarrhea on hand. Lindsey graham, you are a traitor to the country. You knew it was rigged you knew it was rigged Trump Supporters none too pleased with Lindsey Grahams 11th hour decision to go ahead and uphold the results of our election. All it took for graham to change his mind was the looting and desecration of the capitol, and that was all it took for a leading trump suplicant like graham to come under fire for the base, as if four years of with us former producer for the daily show with trevor noah, the host of the podcast how to citizen and rick wilson longtime republican strategist who has since left the party, hes an author and happens to be the cofounder of the lincoln project. Gentlemen welcome to you both. Rick, i have to begin with you because of twitters decision tonight to kick off donald trump. Does trump without twitter now mean republicans without fear . Meaning is rob portman going to emerge from the Witness Protection Program . Is nikki haley going to say she never did like donald trump . Brian, in the last five years, i cannot tell you the number of Times Republican elected officials have said to me i hate him. I cant stand him. Hes destroying the country, but if i say anything hes going to tweet about me and destroy my career or ill get a primary. Well, folks, now your excuses are expired. He does not have a twitter account. The bull horn is broken. The platform is shattered. He cant strike you down if you say whats in your hearts. I encourage my former republican friends to step out of the darkness now, youve got that moment. Baratunde, its good to see you. Weve already seen some legacy repair work by lindsey graham. Weve already seen some legacy repair work by the likes of pence, mcconnell, will it work, any of it . I doubt it. I understand their fear, and i want to thank you for having me back. I wore a sweater for you tonight because America Needs a nice big warm hug after the violent week weve barely survived. So congrats again everyone for making it to friday just so. Donald trump is not merely a president or a politician or a powerful figure. He has become a cult leader, and there are millions and millions of people who have bought into the deception he has wrought that the Republican Party has amplified, that right wing media has empowered and enabled along with social media because it was profitable to do so. There was profit in serving up those lies and now people are living with the consequences of those lies. Many of us knew it for years going in, there were chances to get off this bus at helsinki. There were chances to get off this bus at charlottesville and people said, no im going to go over the cliff. I would urge anyone who has the power to stay and defend the republic, now is your chance to do that. Thats the only purpose you can serve right now. The 25th amendment and preserve the functioning and safety and secure operation of the u. S. Government until its in good hands again. Rick wilson, your name was almost invoked tonight on twitter by the likes of jason miller. This was tweeted out by annie karni of the New York Times, how the resignations and disavowals are playing inside the building, theyre bottom feeders says jason miller. The dems will hate them. The trump base is zgoing to hat them for being rats and jumping ship. I guess theyre auditioning for jobs at the lincoln project. Rick, are you guys hiring . You know, were not going to hire anybody like jason miller who could never pass the personal screening, you know. We dont have on our short list of personal requirements deadbeat dads who give strippers abortion pills. Its just not on my list of requirements at the moment. Were flattered by jasons attention because we havent been in his head for about a year now, but speaks of rats, theres no benefit in being the last rat on the ship as it explodes. Baratunde, lets talk about what we witnessed this week, but more importantly what weve witnessed over the past year. The looting and desecration of the capitol, aka, the White Privilege jamboree has us thinking in a different way. Lets spend a minute talking about black voters in this country. The earnest, honest, church going, poll going voting group that more than any other single voting group saved the biden campaign, elected joe biden as president of the United States and in their spare time, oh, by the way earlier this week flipped control of the senate from republicans to democrats. I yield my time to you and your sweater. Thank you, brian, its a great setup. Rick, amazing sick burn with the miller situation. Black people have been in this country since the start of this country, and you dont get to be more american than being owned by america, so we have some special rights of memory, of belonging to this place, and i am in awe of the people that i am privileged to be a part of and how we consistently show up for a place that consistently tries to remind us were not welcome, and it sometimes feels like were dragging america kicking and screaming toward its own creed, toward its own beautiful words and beautiful documents, none more personified than this week, with everything you just said about the electoral results, especially in georgia, especially given who reverend warnock is, who his ancestors were, and for that same week to have a Confederate Flag waved inside the u. S. Capitol, so many died, so many bled to silence that rebellion and that flag and that undermining, and we still live in the shadows of that civil war with disproportionate voting and access to political power granted to people who lost that war with false participation trophies of confederate memorials propped up for trai r traitorous losers to that civil war. All of this in one week because america is nothing if not a place of contradictions, ugly, yes, and also beautiful, and so to my fellow black americans, youre beautiful. Thank you. We can still keep showing up and we need the rest to show up too, and that includes the republicans who remain, stand for the country. Opt back in, join us as weve been fighting this a long time. Get on board. Beautifully put, rick wilson, i can offer you the last word in 30 seconds, how should people process what ive been calling the great migration, this movement of people away from donald trump, people heretofo hd over their seats in congress to him . The transference of their souls back into their bodies is going to be a painful process and its not going to be without a personal, political and moral cost. I encourage them to take the right steps. If you wanted to see people truly make a step towards reforming their reputations in the white house, in the administration, either quit or invoke the 25th. Do it tonight. Dont wait. Every minute that passes does not improve your chances of being readmitted to society, it lessens them. Two gentlemen who are both friends of this broadcast, both own the best sweaters and have the best words. Gentlemen, thank you both. Have a good weekend, unless you have other plans. Coming up, an update on the fight against the coronavirus, right after this. On the fight against the coronavirus, right after this i dont have to worry about that, do i . Harmful bacteria lurk just below the gum line. Crest gum detoxify works below the gum line to neutralize harmful plaque bacteria and help reverse early gum damage. Crest. Vaccines give us hope, but the rollout has been a travesty. This will be the greatest operational challenge, the greatest operational challenge we will ever face as a nation. As we break yet another death toll record today, a look at the uncontrolled pandemic robbing us of 4,000 of our fellow citizens on a daily basis now, and what you need to know about the vaccines, when we come right back. O know about the vaccines, when we come right back last thing before we go tonight, and as we prepare to give way and leave you to your weekend, we are dutybound to return to the dark and slowmoving storm that is keeping so many of us inside and out of circulation during this winter. That would be the uncontrolled pandemic. Joe biden pledged again today to rev up vaccine production and distributions, get it into arms. Because now that the vaccine is out, its already bogged down. Our report tonight from nbc news correspondent stephanie gosk. Reporter for the first phase of vaccinations, it was clear who was going first, frontline medical workers and residents of longterm care facilities. But now, the order and the rollout are getting more complicated. I know were not a doctor or a nurse or an ambulance driver, but we are touching people, you know. Their wheelchairs, their walk s walkers. Reporter 68yearold Sheila Graham drives elderly patients to get medical treatment in new jersey. She has no idea when she will qualify for the vaccine. I am concerned because there have been a number of people at this job, drivers especially, who have been exposed. Reporter with each state controlling how vaccines are given, theres a patchwork of plans. People just dont know where they are in line, and if they are up for the shot, where to go and how to figure that out. Geneva conway is 88 years old and lives in albany, new york. She knows she qualifies for a vaccine. At my age, i really would like to have the vaccine yesterday. Reporter but she doesnt really understand whats supposed to happen next. I have not heard of a definitive timetable in this area for my group, for the over 70 people. Reporter some states, including texas, have announced that everyone 65 and older is eligible for vaccination. My phone has been blowing up with citizens calling who are over 65, trying to find out how they get the vaccine. Reporter but there are still hundreds of First Responders waiting for their vaccines in johnson county, texas. Emergency manager jamie moore personally knocked on pharmacy doors looking for doses. Can you afford to be getting in your car and knocking on pharmacy doors . Well, i mean, the truth of the matter is, is that we have to do what we have to do. Reporter for now, there is only a limited supply of vaccines. Can we go get it right now . Do we have first choice . Reporter and theres plenty of confusion. Stephanie gosk, nbc news, new york. That is our broadcast for this friday night for this first full week of the new year. Our thanks for being here with us. As we like to say, please have a good weekend, unless you have other plans. On behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight. First up on msnbc, fastmoving developments in the aftermath of the deadly siege on the u. S. Capitol. The ultimatum coming from capitol hill, increasing calls on President Trump to resign or face impeachment again. Democrats are moving fast with plans to introduce articles of impeachment as soon as monday, and a vote to impeach could come by the middle of next week. President elect joe biden reacting. Ive thought for a long, long time that President Trump wasnt fit to hold the job. Thats why i ran. Im focused on the virus, the vaccine, and economic ow