No longer think they need him. The weight of Public Opinion and the calculus have shifted so dramatically that youre starting to see what youre pointing out as occurring to date. Its been happening for some days, some weeks in a more faint way and youre exactly right. This is the moment joe biden that the campaign has been looking for. The moment they can step in and say, we have we can seize the last ground that we had not yet seized which is the ground specifically on the economy, the one thing that donald trump still was pulling ahead of joe biden on. Theyre now driving this message on the economy and the virus being one issue. And they are finding a receptive audience for it and not always just with democrats. You know, i want to ask you another question about politics because people that work on campaigns like myself think, you know, if we just nail the perfect ad or if we have the perfect line in the convention speech. But theyre so structural. And one of the Structural Dynamics you reminded me of is on this question of, do they see the world the way i see it, do they understand the problems of people like me . That mitt romney had an insurmountable deficit to barack obama in 2012 and on just about every other measure he was in a higher position. What appears to be happening and with the numbers im personally shocked by the poll numbers on schools. I have a little person id love to send back to school. But i can hold two thoughts in my head. It must be safe for him, for me, how do the teachers and 53 of republicans view the school question the same way. It seems that trump is now structurally hindered from understa understanding the problems with coronavirus as it pertains on our kids in schools. 53 of republicans, 82 of democrats and 70 of americans. Hes dealing himself out of even being able to relate to the things weighing on a vast majority oft. And we talk about this as an empathy thing. We talk about that should be bill clinton, i feel your pain. You know, the polling question that you talked about. Cares about people like me, right . You know, and we talk about the empathy gap between donald trump and joe biden. But part of whats at the core of the empathy gap, and the absence of empathy that trump has, part of it is pathological narcissism but he cant listen. He cant hear. And so, you know, hes so tone now to breaking news out of deaf and so unable to hear what boston where the Trump Administration was pushing an the public is telling him. Order to force colleges and most political professionals universities to hold inperson look at donald trump and say, hey, i know you dont like tony classes. Their plan had been to revoke fauci, but let me show you some the visas given to foreign numbers and, put aside you students unless theyre enrolled dont care about Public Health but just think about your own in inperson classes, harvard politics here. This is an insane fight to fight. The public is on this mans m. I. T. Were among the first in side. Theyve been on this mans side the suit but a number of others overwhelmingly for months. Joined in, moments ago, a your numbers have gone further federal judge in boston and further down into the toilet. And youre about to pick a fight announced this resolution, our correspondent Julia Ainsley has with someone who you can never win. Not only cant you win but by covered the trump fighting the fight, youll lose administrations immigration more. Policies extensively and shes he cant hear that. He cant read the numbers, hear the advice of strategists, and with us now with more on just he definitely cant hear what what happened. The American People are telling reporter brian, we were him. And thats a kind the core of dialing in to hear whether or not the judge would issue a temporary restraining order that empathy is the ability to listen. Trump cannot listen. Said foreign students who are and thats what hinders him taking their classes exclusively structurally and at the human online cant live in the United States, but she didnt have to level as much as anything else. It makes him a terrible give that order, brian, because she announced at the very candidate. You have been in campaigns. Beginning the partieses had come forget structure. To a resolution that the trump forget issues. Forget all of it. When you have a bad candidate, administration has agreed to you lose. Rescind that order, july 6th donald trump right now is a really bad candidate. Order that got harvard, m. I. T. And 17 states and the district Ashley Parker, the story that of columbia not to mention your paper broke over the numerous other universities up weekend about the oppo dump on in arms saying this would damage fauci was, for me, one of those their ability to do business and to educate students both here and abroad if they instituted stories that are pillars of this, so the government has covering the coverage from people like you and papers like backed down before a judge even yours of the trump presidency. Had to get involved. And i was so fixated on it. I covered immigration a lot, ive been looking at all of usually it takes the court to faucis predictions because they get involved for the trump rubbed me the wrong way because administration to back down, but they were so scary, but they here i think there was so much turned out to be right. Let me play for you some of his pushback they came to this predictions early on and just about all of them turned out to resolution very early on. Julia, to use plain be right. Conversational english, was the some areas, cities, states, Trump Administrations argument what have you, jump over those since rescinded, look, you can various checkpoints and take online courses anywhere, prematurely open up without having the capability of being wed rather have you here in the able to respond effectively and interim . That was the argue m, they efficiently, my concern is that we will start to see little also wanted to use this to try spikes that might turn into to push these schools to reopen, outbreaks. To say if it hurts badly enough if you look at whats going on and just look at some of the film clips that youve seen of that these students wouldnt be living in the United States, people congregating, often without masks, of being in then you should reopen your crowds and jumping over and classes, you should hold inperson classes. Avoiding and not paying thats major priority of the attention to the guidelines that Trump Administration the open we very carefully put out, were schools, k through 12, going to continue to be in a lot university and above in order to of trouble. And theres going to be a lot of restart the economy this fall. Hurt if that does not stop. The pushback was more than they the current state is really even had predicted. Not good in the sense that, as these schools would lose you know, we had been in a significant amount of revenue, not only the schools, but with situation where we were averaging about 20,000 new cases 17 states added on to this, you started to look at how these a day. Two days ago, it was at 57,500. Economies suffered. If these students werent so within a period of a week and allowed in these small towns, a half, we have almost doubled the number of cases. Where they depend entirely on so in answer to your first students living there, the students themselves made the question, we are still knee deep case its very difficult not to be in the United States. If they go back to countries like china for example where watched all of that, its theyre not able to use Search Engines like we are here, and abundantly clear why donald trump cant exist with tony fauci. The truth is something that dialling into classes, that trump cant face yet in month could be whether the colleges five of the pandemic. And fauci has been right on a ton of issues. We dont want him to be right because often his predictions backing down, okay, well open are so grim. But he has been right in the up, foreign students come and take these classes inperson and macro. He has been wrong here and there live in our communities, instead the Trump Administration backed on the micro because, as he and down. Other Health Officials said at but as we know there have been the time, this was a virus where just policy after policy during this virus that limits not only we really didnt know what we didnt know and we were learning more every single day. What you thought on a monday might be different on a illegal, Legal Immigration like wednesday. And then that next week, and these students. I dont think itsee from this its worth noting, first of all, to step back and discuss how striking it is for an administration on immigration. But on this piece in particular, administration to offer an oppo theyve backed down for now. Dump on a member of their own an Important Note of caution team. That is typically what the trump from our colleague Julia Ainsley. People would do on joe biden, on a nemesis. Brian, we start with on someone who they are trying to defeat. Not on someone who is trying to florida, we end 17 states help them keep the American Public safe. And a final irony is that a lot banding together to try to of these small things, the protect themselves from what is Anthony Fauci and others got really to me one of the most wrong potentially were the very cynical pressure campaigns since the pandemic began, this same things the president and the Vice President were getting wrong at the time because the forcing, this pressure for virus was so fast moving. Universities and schools to go i remember sitting there in that White House Briefing room when back ahead of or in defiance of it seemed not a dangerous the science, its its a good decision to go to the White House Briefing room, asking vice step that the court sided president pence, would you take your family to disney world . Forced the Trump Administration would you get on a plane and fly to back down on that one. Yeah, whats happened in the there to the Magic Kingdom . Interim is, betsy devos ran he said absolutely. And hed urge all americans to do similarly. So that has changed. Headlong into your friend dana this administration was just as bash over at cnn and had that culpable for many of the things they accused fauci of. And to see them throwing a unsightly Television Interview over the weekend that just all Public Health expert under the bus in the middle of a pandemic it was missing was concern for is just something that we have students and teache are on this not seen before. Can this be forced completely ashley brought us to my next absent Health Concerns for a point. Vice president pence wrote an classroom full of 6yearolds and their teacher. Oped. And philip bump factchecks it. Does the Vice President s office so ill leave that to you having come out and make those corrections youre talking about, or do they only expect never touched academia in my that of tony fauci or else the life. Ill become a viewer now. Oppo dump . Thank you very much for having well, the Vice President has me. Thank you, my friend. Well be watching you at 11 00. Receded a little bit behind the when we come back joe scenes, in part because the task biden is pressing his case against donald trump in states force has receded. Trump won four years ago. Hes head of the task force. But now, it looks like theyre the charitable explanation is that theyre bringing this back in play for november and the to the agencies, the public Group Republican voters against Health Agencies where it trump is out with a very belongs, but there have been some alarming stories about the ways that the white house and powerful new ad that tries to the administration has tried to turn one of trumps perceived hinder the work of cdc scientists and experts. Strengths into a weakness. Of hhs. Well be right back. And so i guess to answer your wont wait original question, no, weve heard no corrections. Were taking everything we wanted i guess technically, the headline of that oped, the vice we can do it all strength, no sweat president wrote, that there is no, you know, there will be no second wave. Thats technically correct but can it help keep us asleep . Smart bed is on sale now. Only because of a devastating absolutely, it senses your movements and semantics which is that were so automatically adjusts to keep you both comfortable deep into this first wave. And so far from clawing our way save up to 900 on select sleep number 360 smart beds. Out of this first wave that you plus, 0 interest for 24 months on all smart beds. Only for a limited time. Cant even get to a second wave when youre still in the trenches of a first wave. Dr. Wen, theres breaking health news. I want to read from what the New York Times has just posted. The administration orders hospitals to bypass the cdc with key virus data. Alarming health experts. Trump administration has ordered hospitals to bypass the centers for Disease Control and prevention and beginning on wednesday, thats tomorrow, send all coronavirus patient information to a central database in washington. A move that has alarmed Public Health experts who fear the data will be distorted for political gain. How scary is that to you . Its pretty scary to me. Its also inexplicable. Whats the rationale for bypassing one of the preeminent institutions in the world . The cdc is admired around the world. In fact, other countries have named their own equivalent of a cdc. Literally, the chinese cdc, for example, is named after ours because we are the ones because our scientists and Public Health officials are the best in the world. The cdc is to analyze the data coming from different regions in the country and look for trends identify these trends, inform the public about them and synthesize guidelines and inform the public about what to do next. Thats what the cdc is supposed to do. I dont understand where this data is going instead. Im deeply concerned about what weve seen with the attacks on science and Public Health in recent days because Public Health hinges on public trust. And when politicians, including the top public official, the elected official of the country, president trump, start attacking Public Health, it undermines the ability of all of local, state and federal response to this pandemic. You know, dr. Wen, ive been thinking a lot about how we covered other countries dealing with the earliest phases of the pandemic when we question their numbers. When we question the information coming out of iran and we covered satellite images of mass graves, when we first covered the Chinese Government and wondered whether scientists were able to get the truth out. I think we had some questions about what was really going on in russia. The world over must be looking at america if you read ashleys paper and her colleagues great reporting, factchecking pences oped. He was the most senior white house official on the Coronavirus Task force. He never corrected what were incorrect assessments in a published oped. And this oppo dump designed to discredit the top scientist, take that with breaking news the cdc is now going to be cut out. An agency so severed that other countries name their disease fighters after the cdc is now going to be cut out of reporting coronavirus deaths and infect n infections. What do we look like to the world . We look like were on an announcer reliability is everything. So, if your networks down, youre down. Island thats not listening to verizon knows your customers need to reach you seamlessly. Science. That doesnt have regard for your team needs to work from different places each other and others around us. Across many devices. Plus, you want the security we are seeing this. Trusted by some of the Largest Companies in the world. We know that our country has and thats why you trust us. Fallen behind all the others the most Reliable Network in america. When it comes to our response. Every other developed country, highincome country, has had a response in a way that we have not been able to. Theyve been able to suppress their level of infection. Theyve been able to use the tools. The same tools we have at our its gotten bad enough that disposal in order to prevent even donald trump finally infections and save lives. Their economy is back. Decided to wear a mask in theyre able to send their kids public. Im glad he made the shift. To school. Theyre back to somewhat of life as normal in a way that we mr. President its not enough. Cannot return to. Mr. President , please listen to i think the rest of the world is your Public Health experts. Laughing at us knowing that we have the tools, too. But we just decided to ignore instead of denigrating them. Do your job, mr. President. The science, ignore Public Health, ignore evidencebased because if we cant deal with a guidelines, do our own thing and at what cost . Public Health Crisis we cant at the cost of americans lives. Deal with the economic crisis. That was former vice dr. Leana wen and ashley president joe Biden Campaigning parker, two of my favorite humans to talk to about all today in delaware, pushing his these things. Thank you both so much for economic Recovery Plan to help star