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MSNBCW First Look December 4, 2019

Photo. Yesterday, tensions were on full display when President Trump and french president Emmanuel Macron both laid out dueling visions for the future of the alliance. President trump found himself in an unusual position, actually defending nato. Meanwhile, President Trump is scheduledru to hold a bilateral meeting with german president Angela Merkel. Joining us now from london nbc news correspondent carroll lee. Good to see you this morning. Thanks for joining us. What were the biggest takeaways from yesterday and what do we expect to see today . Reporter well, i think, yasmin, youl, hit on one of the big ones which you saw President Trump essentially yesterday defending nato, an alliance hes been sharply critical of for years since running as a candidate in 2016. To put that in an countext, i think one of the reasons we saw him do that, he was angry with comments that french president Emmanuel Macron had made saying that he was braindead. Particularly a lack of leadership, President Trumps decision to withdraw troops from northeast syria without notifying allies. So its not necessarily that President Trump is suddenly a big fan of nato although hes praised the alliance more as he believes in his view, its come into view with his vision, his pressure iscampaign, to get nat allies to invest more in their 20 budgets. But really this was a stab, a slight that he felt was into him from president in macron and he s pushing back on that. So, that was one of the big things from yesterday. Yesterday he also had a closeddoor meeting there were no cameras no pictures with the Prime Minister of the uk. And that was something that was not onom his schedule, because e britain didnt really want to have an big show with presiden trump. Theres anre election going on. President trump is not popular here but they discussed nato, as well as syria and trade. But antoday, hes going into a bunch of meetings with other nato leaders and hell have a oneonone meeting with chang lo chancellor merkel from germany and theom leader of denmark whi is a dispute over the president s push maybe to purchase greenland. Carol, as we see the class photo happening as we speak, what was the reaction over there to president macron, pushing back on President Trump at that moment . You rarely see another world leaderee pushing back publicly President Trump like that. Certainly not on a stage like we saw yesterday. Reporter yeah, youre right. And its a real switch from, you know, where his relationship began. Macron is one of the World Leadershe who is heavily invest with a personal rapport with President Trump. And over the years that has not paid t dividends in terms of policy decisions. He was not able to convince the president to remain in the Iran Nuclear Deal or the paris climate accord. So that relationship has frayed and tensions have ramped up. Yesterday we saw president macron not back p down on what said on nato, but on President Trump when it came to the position of france, germany and others in europe taking back on syria. And it was a very interesting moment when the president made a quip,id you want an isis fighte you can take as many as you want. And macron said lets be serious and outlined why he doesnt think thats a top priority. And the president shot back with ae nonanswer. So its an interesting start with the way this relationship began. Its always interesting to see the class pictures take place because youre watching the body language. Theres been so many outtakes. Where the leaders are looking. President trump was looking up to the corner. No one really knew what he was lookingha at. Thatg was a moment that, of course, went viral. The president standing next to turkish president erdogan. We see Angela Merkel next to the president and macron in this photo. Whatn do you think, carol from your perspective is macrons ultimate objective in going up against the president . Reporter well, look, i think that hes tried a different tact. And he tried to be very conciliatory towards the president. And to try to establish some sort of you know, some strong friendship with him and that didnt work. So, what weve seen hes not the only one whose then tried to pivot to perhaps a more conversational approach. Or take him in a different direction with more of a combative style. I do think that the president and erdogan isnk an interesting dynamic just because the there on is really out an island a little bit in terms of defending erdogan over his incursion in syria. Youve seen other leaders be critical of him on that front. And the president , yesterday, said, despiterd that turkey has gone into syria and despite that they havean purchased this russn Missile Defense system and activated it, tested it, that hes not really you know, committed to any sort of sanctions which congress has wanted him to do. So his sort of softer approach is to turkey and to erdogan is a little different than what weve seen from otherre leaders here. At the same time, you hear about a leader, nato leaders including the secretarygeneral saying, look, we need turkey inside the tent, not outside of the tent thats the way this alliance is going to be best served because of eye its importance to the alliance, the strategic importance. So thats something that i dont think ist going to be entirely worked out certainly at this summit and its not clear exactly where that dynamic is going to yngo. S and if theres any leader that has hollywood this leader to account its german president Angela Merkel. And that thats going to be covered on morning joe later this morning. But what do you expect to come out of that meeting . Reporter well, its interesting because she is someone who is kind caof, you know, shes not shes on her way out. And someone who the president has been highly critical of. Since the campaign. Ha and so it will be its not clear how this meeting is going to be approached by him, whether its something thats more combative in the way that we saw with macron. Or if its a little more conciliato conciliatory. But there are certainly issues, pay it trade, you know, paying more into a defense budget, those sorts of issues that are the belief, that the president doesntat think germany is doin as much as it could. So thats been an issue. But generally, these are two leaders that the president doesnt have a relationship with, like Boris Johnson has with President Trump. Sosi it will be rather stiff, i imagine. , considering all of this is happening in the shadow of the impeachment inquiry happening here at home, carol, to what extent does this change the capitalism of other World Leaders inli terms of how they dealing with the president or do you think theyre following it that closely . Reporter oh, theyre following it very closely. I think its certainly something thatsin hanging over the president as hes on the world stage. I was talking with an official a european official this morning who was saying, everyone is trying to gain out how this is going to play out, not just with impeachment, but also theres an election next year. And you can see leaders trying to size this up. We cane also see its really getting under the president s skin having all of this happen back inl washington while hes here trying to be basically the face of the United States and delve into all of these highstakes Foreign Policy issues. And hes been very frustrated withve that. Hes made that very clear. Heer has spoken to the reporter for more thanas would hours ove the course of yesterday. And hes vented about democrats. Hes criticized house intelligence tichairman adam schiff. So, this is something that World Leaders ares paying very close attention to. Although they may not be addressing it directly with the president or bringing it up in their conversations. Butei theyre paying attention. Andyi this is something thats clearly very much on the president s mind. All right, carol lee, thank you, my l friend. Thanks. Zbluf just to key cap, we saw the class photo take place for nato. And we saw the president standing next to president erdogan. Also reahead, the impeachme probe moves into a new phase. Well have a preview of what to expect for the House Judiciary Committee hearing. Plus know, loss for President Trump as the federal Appeals Court rules that Deutsche Bank and capital one must hand over years of his records. Those stories and more, when we come back. Everybody needs somebody Everybody Needs somebody to love someone to love someone to love i got a little message for you. When you have that somebody, hold on to them, give them all your love. Wherever they are i need you, you, you i need you, you, you i need you, you, you i need you, you, you so why treat your mouth any differently . Listerine® completes the job by preventing plaque, early gum disease, and killing up to 99. 9 of germs. Try listerine®. Need Stocking Stuffers . Try listerine® ready tabs™. [ dramatic music ]ing ] . Ahhhh ahhhh elliott. You came back welcome back. The impeachment probe of President Trump officially moves into the hands of the House Judiciary Committee. Late last night the House Committee voted 139 along party lines to sent the impeachment report to the Judiciary Committee. Now at 12 00 a. M. This morning the Judiciary Committee will hold its first impeachment hearing featuring a panel of legal scholars who will discuss the definition of, quote, high crimes and misdemeanors and testify on the constitutional grounds for president ial impeachment. No other hearings have been scheduled at this point but more are expected in the coming weeks. Once the hearings are finished the Judiciary Committee is expected to drop articles of impeachment. As politico is pointing out the most significant question facing the committee may be to limit the charges of, quote, abuse of power based on the ukraine probe or include, quote, obstruction of justice based on evidence supplied by special counsel bob mueller. Democrats also seem likely to charge trump with obstruction of congress. Now to a report that will serve as the cornerstone for impeachment proceedings against the president. On the inquiry itself the president is accused of, quote, Unprecedented Campaign on obstruction. The report accuses the president of placing his own personal and political interests above the nations, seeking to undermine the integrity of the election process and endangering National Security. Faced with the revelations of his actions, the report adds President Trump publicly and repeatedly persisted in urging foreign governments including ukraine and china to investigate his political opponent. This continued solicitation of foreign interference in the u. S. Election presents a clear and present danger that the president will continue to use the power of his office for his personal political gain. And the white house claims the House Intel Committee failed to introduce evidence of wrongdoing and heres the president speaking from london just yesterday. What did you learn from adam schiff . From what . Adam schiff. I think hes a maniac. I think hes a deranged human being. There are reasons that are obvious, i think hes a very sick man. And he lies. Adam schiff made up my conversation with the president of ukraine. And one of the reasons people keep talking about it, thats what they saw. This guy is sick. He made up a conversation. He lied. If he didnt do that in the halls of congress, hed be thrown in a jail. But he did it in the halls of congress, and hes given immunity. This is a sick person. Hes a liar. By the way, nancy pelosi knew he was lying, and she went on her show, stephanopoulos and she said he told the truth. So she was lying, too. So despite the contradictory findings of a bipartisan investigation, some ukrainian lawmakers are embracing the feeling that there was meddling. Saying he saw no difference in what russia did early on in russian elections and what ukrainian officials say, quote, its still meddling. And then clarifying his statement in the journal saying i dont believe anyone conducted the sophisticated interference russia did in 2016. Meanwhile yesterday demurred when asked to set the record straight. There seems to be a debate going on within this party about whether or not ukraine meddled in the 2016 election. You can set the record straight . Look, this whole issue, as far as im concerned is a house issue. They have to decide what they want to do, if anything. Related to all of these suggestions. And well deal with what comes over here. During a Senate Hearing on the future of u. S. Policy towards russia yesterday, u. S. Diplomat david hale disputed the growing Conspiracy Theory being advanced by President Trump and some republican lawmakers that ukraine interfered in the 2016 president ial election. Are you aware of any evidence that ukraine interfered in the 2016 u. S. Election . Im not. You know, i appreciate dr. Fiona hills testimony before the house, the former National Security Council Director for europe and russia who said that theory is a fictional narrative that is being perpetrated and propagated by the Russian Security services themselves. Do you have any reason to disagree with dr. Hill . I do not. Still ahead, north korea appears to threaten the United States with an unwelcome christmas gift. What President Trump has to say about the stalled talks of kim jongun. Were back in a moment. dad one under par on a hole is a. . daughter birdie dad thats what im talkin about. And a score of two under par is. . daughter big birdie dad no, its not that, its uh. rickie turkey vulture dad rickie fowler, im sorry, what. . rickie turkey vulture. dad oh thats a turkeyoh all right, lets go. Ill follow you. Go, go, go go burke otherwise known as sand trap scavengers. Seen it, covered it. September twentyninth, twentyseventeen. 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All the chevy family get the chevy employee discount for everyone today. Welcome back, a federal Appeals Court ruled yesterday that it would not block congressional subpoenas from President Trumps records from Deutsche Bank and capital one. Several members of trumps family sued the banks for blocking them from the records from the house intel and services committees. The ruling placed a sevenday stay on the subpoenas so that the trump family could file an appeal. President trumps attorney jay sekulow said the president s legal team is considering appealing the ruling to the Supreme Court. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued a statement yesterday following the ruling, writing in part, this, todays ruling is another victory for the rule of law, our constitution and our american democracy. Yet again, the courts have reaffirmed on behalf of the American People. Joining me, danny cevallos. Good to see you, my friend. I know you were booted from the show but youre back. Its great to be back. What does the Appeals Court ruling mean . It means in all likelihood that the banks are going to have to turn over records but that isnt much of a surprise. The trump steam lost at the appeals level. But the court held with the district court. Which is these subpoenas dont involve so much a separation of powers issue. This is not the executive branch versus congress. Instead, trump appears in this case as a private citizen and the court goes to Great Lengths to explain that and make that clear, that he is a private citizen in this case, essentially arguing against the power of a congressional subpoena for financial records. In that sense, the outcome was never really in doubt. But trump might as well appeal to the Supreme Court because why not at this point . This morning coming up at 10 00, the Jud

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