Good wednesday morning, in case youre wondering, everybody. Its may 13th. Im yasmin vossoughian. Glad to be with you. We have a lot to cover this morning. Were going to begin with that warning from dr. Anthony fauci during yesterdays Senate Hearing. That if the economy reopens prematurely, it could lead to more cases, more deaths and a slower economic recovery. Ive expressed then and again it is my concern that if some areas, cities, states what have you, jump over those various checkpoints and prematurely open up without having the capability to be able to respond effectively and fishefficiently concern is we will start to see little spikes that might turn into outbreaks. So, therefore, ive been being very clear in my message to try to the best extent possible to go by the guidelines which have been very well thought out and very well delineated. There is a real risk that you will trigger an outbreak that you may not be able to control, which in fact paradoxically will set you back, not only leading to some suffering and death that could be avoided, but could even set you back to the road to try to get economic recovery. So this will turn the clock back, rather than going forward. That is my major concern, senator. May not be able to control if opened too early. And while the president declared monday, quote, we have met the moment. We have prevailed, he said, when it comes to testing, the director of the cdc saying yesterday, were not out of the woods yet. Also dr. Faucis warning about reopening too soon, its coming from a virus model. A model from the university of washington is now projecting 147,000 deaths here in the United States by august 4th. Thats 10,000 more than the models last prediction. A Senior Administration official was telling nbc news that while they, quote, keep an eye on these outside models, the administration largely focuses on its own data, cdc guidelines and guidance from the Coronavirus Task force. Meanwhile president trumps soninlaw and White House Senior Adviser Jared Kushner acknowledged in an interview with Time Magazine that there is an inherent risk in president trumps push to reopen the economy. Theres risk to anything. But the president carries the burden for the 30 million americans who have lost their jobs due to the historic effort to save lives. I think weve all come together and saved a lot of lives by our collective action. And yesterdays hearing, dr. Fauci also said by this fall we could learn if a vaccine is actually effective. But he also cautioned with that to expect one by then would be a bridge too far. Moving on to vaccines, there are at least eight candidate covid19 vaccines in clinical development. The nih has been collaborating with a number of pharmaceutical companies at various stages of development. I will describe one very briefly which is not the only one, but one that were developing with moderna, a messenger rna platform. You might recall with this committee that in january of this year, i said it would take about one year to 18 months if we were successful in developing a vaccine. The nih trial moved very quickly. On january 10th, the sequence was known. On january 11th, the Vaccine Research sent to develop a plan. On the 15th of january we officially started the vaccine development. 62 days later, we are now in phase one Clinical Trial with the two doses already fully enrolled. There will be animal safety. The phase one will directly go into phase twothree, late spring, early summer, and if were successful wed know that in late fall, early winter. What would you say to the chancellor of the university of Tennessee Knoxville or to the principal at a Public School about how to persuade students and parents to return to school in august . Lets start with treatments and vaccines, dr. Fauci, if you could save about five minutes for admiral giroir id appreciate it. Thank you very much. Id be very realistic with the chancellor that its a her in this case. Okay. Her, i would tell her, that the idea of having treatments available or a vaccine to facilitate the reentry of students in the fall term would be something that would be a bit of a bridge too far. So, lets talk aid packages. We got another one in the docket. House democrats unveiling a sprawling 3 trillion coronavirus rescue bill as the senate and white house are continuing to clash with how to deal with the sputtering economy. If passed, this new emergency bill will be the biggest spending measure in u. S. History, sending aid to state and local governments, Health Systems and a range of other initiatives. The relief package would send a second round of stimulus checks to millions of americans. And include more funding for the postal service. According to reports, not every component of this bill will contain Government Spending and some aid would be for other ways such as to require passengers to wear masks on planes and public transport as weve seen across the country. Democrats say the rising Unemployment Rate requires an already adding to an unprecedented emergency response. But according to the washington post, republicans have already rejected this deal before even seeing it. Some have described it as a liberal wish list, end quote, that will go nowhere in the republicanled senate. The house is expected to vote on the bill on friday. Well have much more an this when House Speaker nancy pelosi is joining morni ing morning j0 a. M. Joining knee ing me is hans ni. Whats been the white house response to dr. Faucis Senate Testimony . Many things he said in stark contrast to the president , especially amidst reopening in many states across the country . He hasnt directly refuted. When you listen to what both white house officials are saying publicly and privately theyre doing the focus more like you heard from Jared Kushner on the Economic Loss and potentially the loss why if you dont open up the economy. Theyre worried about depression. Theyre worried about other cases not being treated. Given the opportunity, Kayleigh Mcenany to directly refute dr. Fauci, they didnt do it. When you listen to what fauci is saying, hes falling back on the guidelines that they articulated now about a month ago. In some ways, yes, fauci is speaking to the president , hes speaking to the broader Republican Party that clearly wants to open up before perhaps others or other Public Officials think is perhaps the right moment. But in some ways, hes talking more to the republican governors leading this. What i heard from fauci, his tone, his rhetoric seemed to be in slight tension with the president. But he was more perhaps falling back on the criteria that the white house and task force approved. And making sure that he stayed behind that line without directly criticizing the president or other members of the administration, yasmin. What do you think, hans, yesterdays testimony reveals about the divide we are seeing between the white house and its top experts . Considering the fact that were likely have to deal with this for the next 18 months or so. It seems to me that the Public Health officials that are challenging the president that are on a slightly different page with him, dont want to take it to the next level and really own the criticism and say that the president is makes mistakes. Throughout there, all of those Public Health officials, redfield, hahn, fauci, our reporting, yasmin, the president respects their advice. He listens to them but he also weighs competing claims and thats really what will you heard from Jared Kushner. So the interesting thing to me is how the president perceives from the public like fauci said yesterday as a refute and we have a tweet storm this morning. Yasmin. As we always do. Hans nichols, thank you, stay close. Maybe you can tinker on one of those bikes while you wait. Im going to talk to you in a bit. Still ahead, what dr. Anthony fauci is saying about the u. S. Death toll from the coronavirus. And why he thinks it may be higher than the official count. Also president trumps battle to keep his financial records secret hits the Supreme Court. Were going to talk about what we might be able to expect from the justices. Those stories and more, plus a check of your weather, when we come back. Hey allergy muddlers. Achoo . 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If somebody subpoenaed you in that information or someone in your business, wouldnt you at least want to know what was being turned over . Wouldnt you want to ask them . And might that not take time . And might that not take effort . So my problem is there may be burdens here, third party or not. And not just political burdens, the job of the house and senate in part and president politics. That doesnt bother me but the clinton v. Jones information does bother me. And the fact that what i hold today will also apply to a future senator mccarthy asking a future Franklin Roosevelt or harry truman exactly the same questions, that bothers me, so what do i do . Were investigating, for instance, among other things, money laundering. Money laundering requires looking at a whole range of financial activity. What were doing here is exactly the kind of thing that senate and house staff do when theyre looking at the financial secretarier and the kinds of reforms should be made to the banking industry. There is no claim that there is a burden. No claim whatsoever, those may be relevant in certain cases but certainly not this one. Joining me now, msnbc legal analyst Danny Cevallos here. Danny, good morning. Great to see you. Good morning. Great to see you. We previewed this a bit yesterday. And i put you on the spot, asked you what you thought would happen. And you said, if you were a betting man, your money would be on the president having to release his financial records, wow. Major statement. Is this still where your money is, considering how the arguments went yesterday . Yes. But with an asterisk. Because from the questioning it appeared that the justices were more skeptical of Congress Power to subpoena this information, the personal papers of the president , albeit from third parties, and more supportive of the state of new yorks power, a grand jurys power, to subpoena these records as well. But at the same time, many times, i have been swayed by oral argument. And the justices are mostly doing what they do best, which is posing hypothetical that may not reveal how they actually feel about the case. And to be sure, during the congressional house power argument of yesterday, there were plenty of questions about highlighting that congress has this very broad power to subpoena records. So, while the oral argument yesterday tended to show that the house may be limited, dont be surprised if the justices change their mind if their opinion. What did you make of the house argument that privilege was not claim, while there could be burden in other cases it does not necessarily make sense for this one . Its an important argument to make. Because what the house is essentially saying is this case is very different from other case where is president s have cloaked themselves in issues of privilege. Because privilege wasnt asserted, the court doesnt even need to address those other cases that deal with limiting principles of privilege. In other words, counsel for the house is arguing this is an easier case because there is no privilege. And these are personal papers that are not directly sought from the executive, but from third parties that may be close to the executive but are not even part of the executive branch. Its a very effective argument. Arguably, the houses strongest argument in this case. So while Justice Breyer is saying what will i do . Many are saying what will the decision be here . Danny cevallos, great to see you this morning. Still ahead, everybody, a growing number of children are coming down a rare condition possibly linked to the coronavirus. What new York Governor Andrew Cuomo is saying about that. Were back in a moment. Oh. Whats going on . Oh, darn let me help. Lift and push and push there. Its up there. Hey joshie. Wrinkles send the wrong message. Help prevent them before they start with downy wrinkleguard. To ewhether youreting these uncaring for your. Family at home or those at work, principal is by your side. Were working hard to answer your questions. Like helping you understand what the recently passed economic package can mean for you. Were more than a financial company. Were a together we can get through anything company. Now, more than ever. Welcome back, everybody. There are now more than 100 kids across at least 14 states that have contracted a rare and potentially deadly inflammatory condition likely linked to covid19. The figures are coming as the cdc says it is actively preparing guidance for Health Officials to track nationwide what is now being call ed pediatric multisymptom antiinflammatory syndrome or pmis. Here in new york, where patients treated so far are ranging in younger than 1 years old to 18 years old. According to cuomo, at least five kids in new york have died from this illness which acts more like toxic shock syndrome or kawasaki disease causing inflammation of the coronary arteries. I want to bring in msnbc meteorologist bill karins. Bill, good to see you this morning. I know youre a parent of two kids. I, too, am a parent of two kids. Up to this point, right, there was kind of a sigh of relief because you felt you didnt necessarily have to worry as much about the kids as you were worrying about maybe your elderly parents. Yeah. But now this news of a possible syndrome linked to covid19, it is incredibly troubling. Yeah, and the whole school angle, i mean, for the fall, Million Dollar question, right . Yeah, exactly, what that may mean for schools reopening in the fall, well have to wait and see what happens there. But we will get some answers in the second half of the show, look forward to it. This is very much a moving situation. All right. Take it away, bill. Let me get to the forecast, this is something i didnt want to do yet, i was hoping until like july, we do have a possibility of something developing offer tdevelop developing off the bahamas and florida. The good news for this one, even those going to form close to florida, close to the bahamas friday and saturday, its heading out to sea. If it does get a name, the first named storm for the season is arthur. Its a possibility that we do get a name on a tracked system. Thats thankfully off the southeast coast. Again, this is more a headsup that the Hurricane Season is not all that far away. Let me get to the forecast for today. Showers and storms are rolling through areas of like kentucky and tennessee. A complex of storms exiting houston. And later on, maybe a few tornadoes watching in tornado alley, from kansas to oklahoma and areas of north texas. Late tomorrow night. And then tomorrow, Severe Weather in effect for kansas, illinois, maybe a few storms getting towards chicago as we go throughout your thursday evening. Also some heavy rain, too. Some of the good news, yasmin, it has been cold. Not springlike. Today is a beautiful, Beautiful Day from all of the eastern seaboard. 68 and sunny, low humidity from new york, all the way to d. C. It should be a very enjoyable average. Get out and do so. Thank you, bill. Still ahead, everybody, much more from yesterdays Senate Hearing with dr. Anthony fauci including what he had to say about his relationship with the president. Also, republican senator rand pauls pointed exchange with dr. Fauci. Were back in a moment. For all. 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Fauci, is that 80,000 americans have died from the pandemic. There are some epidemiologists who suggest the number may be 50 higher than that. What do you think . Im not sure, senator sanders, if its going to be 50 higher. But most of us feel that the number of deaths are likely higher than that numbe