Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20140512

MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews May 12, 2014 23:00:00

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Bill krystal, the iraq war field marshall of the home war has waged war on her title, secretary clinton. Rabd paul has said to relish his direct line of attack on clinton, and now marco rubio looking for any chance to line up with the far right attack squad is joining the charge against the former first lady. Some think this is preventive war, a nasty line of fire to scare Hillary Clinton from evening entering the president ial race. This is just the beginning, theyre saying, of what were going to throw at you. The second you throw your hat in the ring. If you dont like the heat, theyre channelling harry truman here, stay out of the kitchen. Well, this dreadful cam feign of personal attack suck succeed . Will it drive the democrats best hope from the field even before the battle . Or will it shape the battlefield once he enters it, putting her on the nasty defensive from the day and hour she formally announces . Thats all for history to decide. Right now in may of 2014, the right is ganging up, turning its flame throwers on the person they expect to face an open rivalry. But a target they can hit now with impunity, knowing shellacs the quick reacting war room that served bill clinton so well when he first ran for president. The hard question tonight is the american right softening up its target for 2016 . Or is it simply putting its fears on display, building uphillry clinton while it tries to level her . In either case, some of the same people who brought you preventive war in iraq are bringing you preventive war with Hillary Clinton. Two great guests with a question. Howard and stephanie, this week i began to notice the order of battle here. All of a sudden, all the guns, au all the action, all the negative all the blame game is not going to barack obama so much but the next person they think they got to hit. Even nigeria. I want to start with these nigerian pictures. Lets start with this picture which i think is going to enflame this country. All these are young girls taken hostage and god knows what future they face. Maybe some have already been forced into marriage out there. When the papers are picked up tomorrow morn, the American People are going to see these faces and theyre going to be mad. The republicans want them to be mad at Hillary Clinton. Your thoughts . Theres no question, chris. What theyre doing is whats known in the political world as prebuttal. Theyre trying to get the narrative of Hillary Clintons time as secretary of state out there in the public mind in the way they want to before Hillary Clinton herself comes out with her own account in the book shes been writing called hard choices. Hillary clinton knows for sure that her time as secretary of state is going to be a key factor and a big argument in her campaign for the presidency. I dont think shes scared by it at all. And i dont think that if she doesnt run that that will be the reason. I dont think theyre going to scare her out of the race. But this essentially is campaign time. Were already function nationally in a president ial campaign between the forces that you mentioned, everybody from Rush Limbaugh to alan west to marco rubio to the National Review to rand paul. Theyre all in a president ial campaign against a woman who has yet to say for sure that shes running. Are you surprised at the earliness of all of this . Here we are. Im going to say the end of the show, i i think shell announce for president maybe a year from now, may of next year. So early to hit her. But is it unfortunate for her that shes being hit so hard now when she doesnt have a war room . She doesnt have a george steph not stephanopolous or james carville. The republicans have been out of power for eight years by the time this president ial campaigni campaignished. And they are desperate to wingback the white house and they know that one significant person stands in their way, and she hasnt even decided to run yet or not. And so they are throwing out everything they can. And i have to say this personally, i am disgusted by the fact that they are using a National Tragedy for political benefit to themselveses. Youre talking about nigeria . And benghazi. Hearings after hearings, after hearings. The secretary released a report which is a rare thing to do, to be fully transparent. Shes been nothing but forth coming. And here they go again. Not only are they doing more hearings, which is fine. But to use it for political benefit and to raise money around it . I mean, this is how desperate these guys are. And im a political operative. Ive managed some campaigns. I know that you attack the strength of your opponent, and thats exactly what theyre trying to do here. The new charge from the right that Hillary Clinton bears responsibility for those kidnapped girls over in nigeria are based on her time at the state department. Heres going gipg goinewt gingr. Hes always an opportunist. Hillary clintons leadership at as secretary of the state regardiregard ing nigeria. He said its indefensible that they didnt name boko haram a terrorist group. By the way, newt gingrich, the fact is they named the three top leaders to the terrorists. Meanwhile, Andrew Mccarthy wrielting in the National Review, mrs. Clinton, like the Obama Administration more broadly believes appeasing islami islamists, avoiding actions that might give them offense, slamming americans that provoke them, support peace and stability. Hillary clintons tenure at the state department was a disaster. More ridiculous still, listen to what Rush Limbaugh said just today. The boko haram leader or whoever, that performed on video is a good looking guy. This is why mrs. Clinton wouldnt call this group a terror group. Because theyre black. Cant afford to do that. This is how surface conscious the left is. We cant call them terrorists because they look like africanamericans. And we just cant go there. I have never heard more hogwash in 30 seconds. Ive got to stephanie, a female, a woman. He accuses hillary of having some sort of sexual attraction or romantic attraction to the head of boko haram. This gets a little odd here. Hes good look, hes black and he looks like an africanamerican. I didnt get a good look at the guy. I dont know what to say . Sexism, weirdism . Limbaughism. Hes good looking . What is that . How do you get that out of this pictu picture . Its shocking. The republican, they have nothing to say so theyre going to the bottom of the bottom here on attacks, pulling anything they can out. Because the truth is, Everybody Knows that her tenure as secretary of state was excellent. And on the record, you know, month after month since she left, folks have been talking about how great of a leader does she need a war room right now . Doesnt she need somebody to defend her, even if she doesnt run . The republicans are going too far. And the American People are seeing that. Doesnt she need a war room right now . Make news. Doesnt she need a war room . I always thought the war room was one hell of a documentary on politics. George and jams and those guys did a great job of firing back. Instant response, first responders. Weve learned from dukakis. If you dont throw the crap back fast, it absorbs. Your throughooughts as a campai manager . Theres no campaign yet. Should there be a war room . Shes got a lot of friends out there that are out speak on her behalf. Shes going to go out there and talk about her book. Even a great book cant stop this. Shell d a great job with the book, i know she will. But theyll have two more things on the road to throw at her. Your thoughts. Since im not a campaign operative and just an observer and a reporter whos covered a lot of campaigns, i know that attacks unanswered are to some extent attacks accepted. And i said a little earlier, chris, that this is functionally already a president ial campaign so i guess i would have to say eni would say that she does need more loud and vig louse and specific and caustic defenders. Is what limbaugh and others are doing is playing with deep fears and resentments in the American Public and they need to be called out on it by people who have respect in american society. What theyre doing is saying Hillary Clinton is an appeaser. You heard that comment. Shes an appeaser of islamics. Shes soft on this stuff. She thought that soft power and nice words are going to make ware way into the world. Which really isnt Hillary Clintons world view, really. Shes a fighter. And she has to have people answering for her on that. I know she doesnt want to do it herself. Okay, weve got to go. To make your points, and to make a point to stephanie, too, how serious this is. More examples now. This is all just brandnew stuff now. Marco rubio had some very tough words for her. Lets listen to him. Im sure hes going to go out. [ ing about her time in the state department. Shes also going to have to be responsible for the failures in russia or benghazi that cost lives. What do you give her as a grade . I dont think she gets a passing grade. If shes going to run on her record as secretary of state, shes ultimately going to have to answer for its massive failures. Hes the fuhrest politician ive ever seen, by the way. Senator rand paul went after benghazi. Heres more paul. This is about judgment. And we eke talking about should we as a country have a commanderinchief who didnt provide Adequate Security in libya, didnt send reenforcements and then gave us nothing but spin . My opinion is that Hillary Clinton has preclauded herself from ever being considered from that position. Bill crystal seems to be declaring war on her whole role as secretary of state. Lets have a debate on secretary of state in the United States Hillary Clinton. What happened in libya . We intervened. I supported that. I think adam did, too in thorly 2011. What happened in libya over the next year such that benghazi got to the situation that it was at. Bottom line, what do you think the impact of this early a tack and perhaps lentless attack from here on out is going to mean for secondary clinton and her ability to run. Shes going to make her decision, you know with a lot of factors in this. And shes been through this fire before. Its not like she hasnt been attacked before. What were really going to start seeing is voters who are just disgusted by these nonstop attacks. Particularly by a Republican Party that refuses to stalk about anything the voters actually care about. And 2014 is here. We have an election in november where the voters and everything i have seen, and im sure theyve seen the same polling is about economics, economic opportunity, equal pay for women and minimum wage. Theyre so afraid of her theyre trying to get her out now. And their attacks are just not going to work. They can also be effective even if theyre scared. Sometimes youre most effective if youre scared. I think attacked work. You have to throw it right back in their face or you lose. The faster of that was bill clinton. Thank you howard fineman. Coming up, can marco rubio as a member of the republican know nothings, the science deniers. He says he doesnt believe humans are causing Global Warming. Doesnt believe that these scientists, he calls them have conclud concluded. Hes trying to make his bones with the right. Plus, rand paul has some advice for his party on alleged voter fraud. Go ahead and pass voter id laws. Just stop talking about it. People are on to you. And the wild cards, the senate race, democrats who have something to sell besides just being democrats. Some good Democratic Candidates out there are making tougher for republicans than many people had expected. And back to Climate Change. The new sunday show, john oliver takes on the science deniers. The only accurate way to report that one out of four americans are skeptical of Global Warming is to say a poll finds that one out of four americans are wrong about something. Anyway, this is hardball the place for politics. [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. She can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees. My mom works at ge. Heres another advantage for republicans heading into this novembers midterm enthusiasm. 42 of republicans and right leaning independents say theyre enthusiastic about voting this year. 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Welcome back to hardball. Its a recognized fact now that humans are causing Global Warming. 97 of the scientists agree that mankind is making the planet warmer. Theres no debate among the experts. But most on the right now dont let facts get in the way of a good political pitch. The latest to into the hard rights knownothing clown car is marco rubio from florida and of course, 2016 hopeful. Again, 97 of scientists agree that Climate Change exists. And that humans are causing it. And heres what rubio told abcs Jonathan Carl yesterday. I dont know of any era in World History where the climate has been stable. Climate is always evolving and natural disasters have always existed. Let me get this straight. You do not think that human activity, production of co 2 has caused warming . I do not believe that human activity is causing these dramatic changes to our climate the way these scientists are portraying it. I do not believe the laws they propose we pass will do anything about it, except it will destroy our economy. Well, between gulps of water, maybe rubio ought to think once in a while. The right wingers exploded in his work with democrats to pass an Immigration Reform bill in the senate. Looks like hes been trying to win them back ever since and it looks like hes willing to do or say anything to do it. The former Deputy Communications director of al gores president ial campaign. I think al gore, he can be a little odd now and then. He was very good at teaching us about an inconvenient truth. And the idea that a candidate of some education, like marco rubio, probably had a good education, comes out and just blanky plays knownothing. Plays stupid for the American People. You run for president of the United States by saying you dont understand or believe in science . What does he believe in if not science . Does he have some other way of knowing things . Explain. It sounds to me, chris, that he is what he blooes in is marco rubio is becoming president or getting a political future. Thats what he believes in. He will say anything. And the problem for the republicans is they are basing their future on an ever shrinking part of the american electorate. People who maybe are upset because, you know, there are gay people in the nfl and black people get to be president. How does that fit into Climate Change. All of that. What happens with young people in particular, youve got 735 of young people believe that Climate Change is real, 66 of them believe its real. 75 of them believe that it is manmade. Human beings are doing something about it. How do you have a future of a party when you believe the things that the people who are going to pop late that party in the future just dont believe in. But the republican members are pretty bad on this. There is a lot of rejectionism here. I think blindfolded rejectionism. They dont want to believe in science, in a lot of areas, but especially now climate. Chris, only 1 out of 10, 1 out of 10 Tea Party Republicans believe Climate Change is happening and that its human induced. That means 9 out of 10 eex plain the psychiatrist of this. Climate change skeptics. I think its

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