Campaign attacks can he be talking about . This was supposed to start a year from now and on clintons timetable. Instead its bellowing up now on karl roves timetable. Instead of talking about the countrys future, which moub the propelling topic of any president ial campaign, its right now over whether Hillary Clintons health will keep her from getting in. Can hillary drop back to the sidelines . Can she get that year of not being a candidate she seemed all along to have wanted. Here is bill clip ton yesterday responding on attacks of his wifes health. She works out every week. Shes strong. Shes great. She certainly seems to have more stamina than i do. Do you think its this way of inserting her age or her physical capabilities into the 2016 debate . I dont know, but if it is, you cant be too upset about it. Its just the beginning. Theyll get better and better at it. Even earlier came this statement. Its flagrant and thinly vailed. They are scared of what she has to achieve and has to offer. The Washington Post reported the clintons are entering a new phase as they prepare for a possible 2016 run. This week, Hillary Clinton and her husband have jumped into partisan combat. Clinton is move into a new phase of preparing for a 2016 president ial campaign. Personally, i think the post reporters are being a fwit formal here. Possible campaign . Didnt bill clinton just say this is just the beginning . Joan, i do believe that in reacting with some so sif rouseness, theres going to be a campaign by his wife. I heard it the same way. On the other hand, we have to let her make that announcement in her time. Im really enjoying the way she hit back, whether she runs or not and im assuming shes running, chris. I dont think it forces her hand or horses a decision on her or an announcement on her. I love seeing the entire party respond to this. 23r jay carney to nancy pi loescy. She is a standard bearer for this party whatever she does. I love seeing people out there defending her and saying were not going to take this, karl rove. Her first spokesperson called her a liar. Let me try this out. Next step, somebody will come into the roll of pretending to be a moderator, pretending to be an umpire saying well, they should release their medical records. And once that starts blood clot, once you get concussion, then it just keeps rolling along and rolling along. Doesnt this escalate and advance the campaign well ahead of schedule . I really dont think so. Sfwl theres a lot to be said for getting it out of the way now. You know somebody out there, its going to be a beltway pundit. Somebody is going to say hey, karl rove is right. But shes going to have to answer these questions. Theres an answer for these questions. Shes been out and making speeches and she looks great. These questions, the way they raised them its dirty. Are they relevant questions . They actually are. And shes got an answer, i believe. Does this escalate the campaign that they go after republicans . Ive never been a fan of the way john kerry handled the swift boefting or the way Michael Dukakis handled everything. Youve got to fight. But they are fighting. Do you think the clintons are happy theyre involved in this mud fight at this point . No, i dont think so. Let me tell you, chris, i think theres a separate Campaign Going on. Karl rove was either demented because thaz that was as gross and lethal an attack. Hes demented or a smart guy. He knows you dont shoot 2 1 2 years before the election. That issue, Hillary Clintons age and health is a September Issue when voters are paying attention. What are they campaigning for now . Theyre campaigning to try to convince hillary not to run. That its going to be so slimily and so dirty and so offensive that she doesnt want to live two years of her life like that. Thats what the campaign is. Its geared to persuade her not to run. They know they cant beat her. They want to run against alesser democrat who they have a chance to beat. Can you imagine their reaction that its going to get this much in the gutter, this past, this personal . In the one sense, hillary has to say good god, whats happened to this business. But in another sense, i know hillary is combative enough and competitive enough that shes going to want to push back. And believe me, the president and the spokespeople didnt push back as hard as they did without hillarys okay. She will not be a pushover. You saw her when she testified. Shes going to give as good as she gets. But the question is, does she want do live twoer yoos of her life going through this slime . Politics has become a horrible, horrible, slimy, disgusting business. Theyre trying to make that point to hillary to keep her out. I dont think its going to work but thats the campaign under way right now. I agree with you. But its ten years of her life if shes elected so two terms. She knows that already. I find it hard to believe that theres anything they can throw out that she says oh, my god, theyre going to bring up x . She knows what shes getting into. Shes got a bright new shiny car. She has a bently in terms of reputation. Shes against a guy who has a junker, a jalopy. A new poll shows why republicans are nervous about mrs. Clinton, former secretary. It Shows Hillary with a huge lead over every contendner the decisive state of ohio, which probably will decide this thing. States like ohio. Up by seven point against marco rubio and paul ryan. Leads by eight point against rand paul, Chris Christie and mike huckabee. Shes up nine point against jeb bush and ted cruz, 19 points, no surprise there. Ill call this preventive war. One of its goals is perhaps to scare her off from entering the race in the first place a the governor said. Or muddy her up before the run. Lets watch some of the attacks in action. What grade do you give her as secretary of state . I dont think she has a passing grade. Shes an f . If you look at the diplomacy in her time, its failed everywhere in the world. Should we as a country have a commanderinchief who didnt provide Adequate Security in libya, didnt send reenforcements and gave us nothing but spin in Hillary Clinton has precluded herself from ever being considered for that position. Lets have a debate on secretary of state of the United StatesHillary Clinton. The boko haram leader, or whoever boko haram had perform on the video is a good looking guy. This is why mrs. Clinton wouldnt call this group a terror group. Because theyre black. We cant call them terrorists because they look like africanamericans and we just cant go there. What do you make of that, joan . Theyll throw anything. Its not any recognizable material. No, its not. Thats a good point. Hes good looking. Hes africanamerican. What is he saying . Whatever, i neemt even going to finish his thinking. To sit there on judgment of Foreign Policy issueser its going to be a Wonderful Campaign if either of them is debating Hillary Clinton on Foreign Policy. But this is where theyre going to go and we know this. Its all fine. Shes going to be criticized for these things and shes going to have an answer or not. I think shell have an answer. She goes well against huckabee and bush than the young guys nobody knows about. What do you think is going on with the voters . I think ted cruz has negatives. Poor jeb bush is saddled with the name bush. Mike huckabee, people know. I think rubio and ryan are a softer version until you peel back the i dont know i dont know onion. The four clips you played theyre part of the concentrated campaign. Shes going to decide whats best for her and the country, but shes not going to be scared off. The last guy, that rush guy, he is demented. Theres no question. With karl rove, theres a little bit of a question. But with rush, there is no question. They used to hide heez people in the east wing of the old house. Now theyre running around. Thank you. Coming up, yes, he wants to make hillarys health initiative, but he wants something more, he wants to when back the white house by convincing jeb bush the offshore batteries knew are severely badging pillory clinton so he can get in the fight. Well see if thats true. Also, the secretary of Veterans AffairEric Shinseki says hes mad as hell for the long waits to see a doctor. And the efforts to cover it up. Plus, which state has the least trusted State Government in the country . Heres a hint, by the way. Four of the states last seven governors have ended up in federal prison. Come on, you can guess this one. Finally, it was hard to be moved by the dedication of the 9 11 museum. They didnt know his name. They didnt know where he came from. 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I know karl rove doesnt want some whack co bird to run. He wants to get a centrist republican like a bush to run. In fact, a bush. Number two, h ehas to do some convincing and he has to convince jeb bush its not going to be all about you. Its gong to be us on the right and center right, attacking like hell, Hillary Clinton. Thats right. A lot of people are watching now and saying oh, no, not jeb bush. I dont believe believe bush fatigue for a minute any more than hillary fatigue. It makes a lot more sense that karl rove would be trying to lure jeb bush into the race than trying to frighten off Hillary Clinton. Shes not easily frightened. But getting jeb bush into the race is something karl rove has want to do. He made no secret of it. He thinks this is the kind of candidate republicans need to win. The hold line was if you have a dog, you dont have to bark. I think i see a guy auditioning for dog here. Thats karl rove. I think thats right, although i would disagree with clarence a little bit. I think this was a shot across the bow of Hillary Clinton. It would be both. Well, it can be both and it probably is both. But weve been reading about how the one real reluctance clinton might have to get into the race is she doesnt want to deal with the personal attacks and the scrutiny. And so i think rove by going out and kind of launching off a volley of these attacks and making clear just how personal and kind of weird asomugha of these attacks are going to be is planning a doubt in her mind whether this is really something she wants to go through. Rove, as smart as he is, i think the other something he would love to see if for democrats not to run Hillary Clinton and have to go with a weaker,lesser known candidate instead. When i watch Rush Limbaugh talk about how somebody had a romance going on with the spokesman for the terrorists there with the nigeria as a sort of motive saying these guys look like africanamericans, clarence, you jump in here. I think anything is sayable on the right, anything that will stir up the far right, put mud on the side of the faces of the democrats is out there being done. Bo back to the 90s when the clintons were accused of drug smuggling, murder, you name it. And bill clinton, he was telling the truth when he said well, you know, its only just beginning. They know its great beginning. Theyre not going to let themselves be dukakisized or mcgovernized. Josh, do you think theres a possibility that this 2016 campaign, which will probably begin at full speed in several months if not by next year, that they could run it on a high level of policy and not personal construction . Im impressed with what shes been able to do. The guts to run for senator of nok on her own. Thats an enormous gutsy move to make. Why would she think theres going to be a high Road Campaign in 2016. Its going to be down in the gutter. Theyre going to go after her health, bill clin top. This stuff isnt going to get any better. I dont think you can escape the dirt and the slime. But i do think theres a chance, both nominees are going to need to address policy. Part of the argument for electing a president is we have a different set of solutions to get the economy going. For clinton, if you look at why people would hesitate to elect another democratic president , the poll says people want a break from obamas policies. Clinton is going to have to come up with something that differentiates her with barack obama and convince voters shes got something to enliven the economy, juice it up, get jobs going it. Cant all be attacks on what a weirdo karl rove is. I agree Hillary Clinton, its got to be about the future, a new brand for the democrats in the way george senior ran kinder, gentler than ronald reagan. A notch or two to the right on Foreign Policy. I dont like it, but i think thats where the country is. And perhaps a notch closer to the constituencies out there in the middle that hillary needs to reach at home. In iway, good thinking. Up next, you dont want to miss this match. Watch what happens now when you have an open door policy for a Gubernatorial Debate and the fringies walk through the door. Weve got a bunch of eastern idiots running everything. Hey Diddle Diddle right up the middle. Thats my style. Bang, i got you. Bang, i got you pop i honestly think the half the republican parties is democrats. And half the Democratic Party is communist. You have your choice, folks. A cowboy, a curmudgeon, a biker or a normal guy. Take your pick. Thank you very much. Welcome back to hardball. Time now for the side show. The republican Gubernatorial Debate in idaho took a turn to the dun right weird. Butch otter squared off against russ fulcher. But it was opened up to all candidates who were running. Heres harley brown, a biker who has unsuccessfully run for various office and spouts what he calls harleyisms including register communists, not firearms. A substantial portion of my Political Campaign is campaigning against political correctness. I dont like political correctness. Can i say this . It sucks. Its bondage. And im about as politically correct as your proverbial turd in a punch bowl. And im proud of it and im going for it and im going for the vote of the real people out there. Beaufully stated. Anyway, believe it or not, he wasnt the only fringe candidate in that debate. Sit whack and enjoy this one. Well, back when they told me that we couldnt home school, i prayed about it, i stood on my hind legs like a man. I told them what i thought of them, and the television would talk to me for 30 minutes for an hour and well, what would you do if they came out to take your kids . Well, i would shoot them. What else would you do . Over to you, jon stewart. If you been covering the Chris Christie bridge mess, youre familiar with bridget kellys email time for traffic problems in ft. Lee. The star trek star tweeted out there photo of himself on a bridge in brazil with a traffic cone. His text reading, time for some traffic problems in sao paulo. And the bridge controversy also caused an awkward moment for Chris Christie during the 9 11 opening ceremony. The governor was supposed to be followed by a rendition of bridge over troubled water. But the singer who was set to perform that song became ill and had to be replaced. Fortunately for the governor. Up next, tough questions