Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20140723

MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews July 23, 2014 23:00:00

Have we reduced people now to where theyre not even worth the value of a lucy cigarette . These are questions that were going to have to answer in coming days. Tonight, we have to make sense to children why they are at their fathers funeral. Thanks for watching. Im al sharpton. Hardball starts right now. Is nothing sacred . Lets play hardball. Good evening, im Chris Matthews in san francisco. Let me start with this relentless shameless effort to accomplish anything by the president of the United States. Worse than any of it, the attempt to kill obama care in its crib. Refuse yl to back immigration reform. Rejection of obamas plea for congressional action even with the border crisis, cold plooded opposition for background checks. Worse than any of that are the poll numbers showing that the average republican out there is as feverish as elected officials and want and hoping the president will go down in the dirt. This is the fact facing voters. Can a Political Party win the minds and hearts of the country by promising to do nothing . Nothing but destroy the efforts of the other art party to govern. Republicans are rooting for their leaders to knock down president obama. According to a new cnn poll, conducted earlier this year, 73 of republicans hope that president obamas policies fail. Only 14 of republicans hope they succeed. Thats 59 point negative margin. Compare that to how democrats view president george w. Bush in his sixth year, a year after the cias final report that found there were no weapons of mass destruction in iraq which debunk of course the entire justification for the iraq war. Even then, six years into his presidency, 40 of democrats wanted bush to succeed. 51 wanted him to fail. Those numbers are from a fox news poll taken in 2006. Let me go to michael. Theres a real difference facing george w. Bush. By the way, thats with all his limitations. And nasty hatred of the republican rank and file of this president to the point of Something Like four out of five wanted him to go down in the dirt. Failed on every single thing he tried do. Sometimes even if they agree with it, they fail. Democratic support for bush on major bush initiatives wasnt that low. Ive looked up these numbers on the five or six really major things that bush did and countered percentages on the tax cut, on the war vote, on the no child left behind. There was pretty good democratic support. The only big bush thing that didnt get a lot of democratic support was medicare reform of 2003. But other than that, democratic support for bush was about a third. Something like that on capitol hill. Republican support for obama on his major things, 5 . 2 . It is nothing. This is not new. This goes back to 2009. Very first week of the administration, the stimulus bill. So it is something that has been a constant for six years. Believe you me, remaining a constant for the next two and a half years. I remember, and i think you were with us on this in the country, at ground zero after 9 11, everyone wasnt running around saying, i hate bush, he let this happen. Everyones First Response was, lets see what we can do to deal with it situation. Totally different reaction in the first instance. Every time obama tries something, in the first instance, it is kill obama. I remember, you and i, chris, were critics of the war before the war. Once the war started, hoping that it would succeed. Hoping that cheney and bush were right and that i and you were wrong. I didnt want it to fail. I didnt want it to happen. But once it happened, i didnt want it to fail. There are two things that are overlapping here. We talked for years about republicans and conservatives see obama as illegitimate and they dont want to see him get credit for anything. The other thing here is ideological. The Republican Party moved so far to the right they only stand for one thing now. That is government is bad. Government is a problem. Government never works. You put those things together, and they dont want to give obama any credit and they dont want to see the government do anything good because it undermines their only raise on their only reason to be at this moment, if youre republican, is to dump on government so you cant concede there is anything right. There is obama care, stimulus, any other initiative. And no other candidate they want it see as president. Anyway, latest example of the gop dance of death over yesterdays d. C. Court of appeals decision which was brought the case, the case was brought by former bush appointee and cheered by the hard right. That shows the length the republicans will go in their efforts to destroy the signature achievement. In yesterdays wash post online, here is what he wrote, consider what it is republicans are asking the courts to do here. They, the republicans, want millions of americans to lose subsidies they got this year and most cases making Health Insurance he completely unaffordable for them. We found a mistake in the law. So you people are screwed. It isnt the first time republicans have tried to topple the aca, by deliberately trying to find ways to hurt people. Republican governors in 20 states. Which means that nearly 6 million working class people, not rich people in those states, wont have access to health care under the law. And on top of that, gop led the charge in the 36 states reducing to even set up their own health care exchanges. Now in some cases, purposely making it harder for people to navigate into the system. Back to you, michael. The question is, im going through all of the inches here, gun control, economy, border, most recent border crisis, cant we get an imdwrags bill through. Seems like they are not just freezing the bar in basketball terms, old four corner offense, what they are trying to do is make sure that the country hates its government. It doesnt like it because it cant do anything. They make sure it doesnt do anything. That seems to be the strategy. Very conscious part of the strategy, no question about it. They know they are the party of antigovernment as david just said. They know very well that if the American People hate government and dont trust government and dont believe in government, in the long run, probably in the short run, too, they are the ones going to benefit. On the health care issue, you know, think about the longer context of this, chris. I remember as both of you guys do, we started talking about the millions of uninsured in this country back in reagans time. Back in the 80s. 15 million, then 30 million, now before obama care, 45, 46, 47 million. In all those years, the Republican Party hasnt done one thing to try and ensure these people, not one thing. Democrats tried twice. Failed once, succeeded once. And republicans fought tooth and nail every step of the way. Thinking up every strategy they could to try and destroy an effort to give them health coverage. President Obama Congress addressing back in 2008 will, saying the gop pundit on the issue blaming the president and advance the lawsuit against the executive authority. Today a republican working finally unveiled something of an outline. Thats what we need, an outline. Even then, Speaker Boehner wouldnt kmicommit to bringing anything up until recess. Eight days, thats all they have left before i havevacation, not will get done. He did take another crack at obama. Here is the speaker of the house. What the president is asking for is a blank check. He wants us to throw more money at the problem without doing anything to solve the problem. Weve got a humanitarian crisis on the border. It has to be dealt with. The president clearly isnt going to deal with it on his even. Even though, he has the authority to deal with it on his own. You know he, sometimes, david akroid, or whatever his name, is imitating the speaker of the house dan akroid. You know, you only have to go back a few months ago when they were talking in ohio. He said the problem is his own guys saying, it is too hard, it is too hard. They could pass immigration rehe form in two minutes. Bring it to a vet fote in the h. At least 25 will vote for it. And its done. This whole song and dance about obama being weak, not doing anything, not caring, he is not dealing with thei humanitarian crisis, yet, what is happening on the house side . Absolutely nothing. And they are going away. Taking time off. Not dealing with the Immigration Crisis at hand. The question, chris, is how does boehner continue to get away with this . Really modest gun control bill. Really about people keeping unstable people and criminals from getting guns. I dont understand that. Anyway, in pennsylvania, here is what he said afterwards. He explained how colleagues are banning the effort, quote, there was someone on my side, republican side, not wanting to be seen helping the president get something done. I will give you this run through. On every single big ticket item the American People care about, whether immigration, crisis on the border right now or gun control or economy or anything. Health care. The republicans position is nada, nothing, nothing, nothing. Can they get away with it this fall . Last question, michael. Yeah, probably. Because the simple fact is that the Democratic Base isnt revved up to vote about something and the Republican Base is revved up. And the person that doesnt pay that much attention to politics and may not be that disciplined a voter, your average person looks at it and thinks oh, dysfunction. Both of their faults. It is everybodys fault. No, it is actually not. Big percentage of the americans support Immigration Reform and are supporting the obama care bill at least to the extent of saying lets repeal it and try to fix it. You know, they will get away with it. Chris, my dad always told me when i was younger, dont get in a fight with a skunk, you cant win. You both come out smelling bad. I think the republicans know that. They want to get their stink of government dysfunction on the democrats and make everything murky and a mess app and as long as there isnt a media that cuts through it and gives it a clearer message a lot look at washington. A lot of the districtsing so there are a lot of safe districts and democrats need 55 of the vote nationally to win back the majority of the house. Thats not fair, but thats the way the game is rigged by the republicans. There are not always two sides. Thank you michael and david. Coming up, democrats have a plan to turn georgia blue. Not in 2020 or 2016, but right now. Change is making the best shot for the democratic pickup this november. Can you shoot down a civilian plane and pay no price . So far the europeans seem afraid. The russians are suffering in consequences. Plus, fewer Voting Machines. Attempts to end weekend voting all happening in ohio. We will talk it a lawmaker fighting back. How desperate is michele bachmann for attention . This is hardball, place for politics. Claim rateguard from allstate. Your home protects you, protect it back. He cadillac summer collection is here. Your home protects you, during the cadillac summers best event, lease this 2014 ats for around 299 a month and make this the summer of style. How much dirt can we manufacture . More than you think. Very little. [ doorbell rings ] whats this . Whats that . Swiffer sweeper. [ lee ] i came in under the assumption that it was clean. Ive been living in a fools paradise this shows people who think obama care is working. Cnn poll out today Shows Majority of americans say the president S Health Care law has either benefitted them personally or others. 18 say they or their family benefitted while additional 35 say it benefitted lives of other. 53 see a benefit in obama care. 44 say no one benefitted from the law. Well be right back. Kings hawaiian had faced, since robert taira opened his first bakery in a small hawaiian town. Making bread so good, that people bought two loaves one to take home, and one to eat on the way. So good, they grew from here. To here. To here. But to grow again, to the east coast they needed a new factory, but where . Fortunately, they get financing from ge capital. We not only have teams dedicated to the food industry, were also part of ge, a company thats built hundreds of factories. So we could bring in experts to help kings hawaiian make sense of transportation routes, supply chains, labor pools, and zoning to help them make the right decision. 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Not nevada, North Carolina had a change that said favorable for democratic p. That gives georgia democrats hope they might win a race, which they viewed as a lost cause years ago. Roughly 1 million new nonwhites registered tho vote. Thats just over a hundred thousand white voters. About 101, nonwhite advantage in the last several years. Now democrats hope to turn those numbers into a win for Michelle Nunn. The opinion writer with the Washington Post and of course msnbc political analyst. John, let me ask you about the numbers. What does this say to republicans when they say the demographic shifts. A million new voters in this n century. Only a hundred thousand white voters that vote republican in the south. This is no surprise to the rnc. There is a report about how they embrace reform. The fact of the matter is that republicans have to do a better job of attracting voters from hispanic regions and from africanamerican communities. If you dont do that, you will be overrun and be a minority party. I think the rnc has been on this and i have been long Immigration Reform. It helps us have a better conversation with hispanic voters. If we dont do that, we will be a minority party. This is opportunity, at least, for democrats. Maybe more than that given patterns. But you also have this problem of moral right now. Seems like if you look at numbers in the polling, the red hots people dying to get into the voting booth this november continued to be the conservatives on the republican side rather than progress ifs or minorities in the democrat side. Thats exactly right. So if there is to be an upset in georgia and Michelle Nunn is to beat david purdue, itll only be because democrats managed to do something they dont usually do, which is get their people out to the polls in large numbers in an offyear election. And thats not an easy thing to do. It is not impossible to do, i dont think. And given the way the state is changing, i think theres a real shock there but it is still uphill. What do you think it is about georgia. I have always noted, looking back at close races there, 92, 96, is it just a big city aspect of the urban aspect to draw the magnet of atlanta. Is that what is making it more after nn white state . What is singling it out from the other Southern States in that region . If you are asking me, chris, the draw of metro poll tin atlanta for middle class and rising africanamericans is well established. People flock to that area and it has become sort of a, you know, a black mecca for people who are inspiring the new great things. So thats been a big factor. And look, theres a lot of black folks all along, some are just newly registered and so it is i put georgia where North Carolina was. Maybe in 2008, you know. Who knew it was going to go in the democratic column. Nice thing to say john let me Say Something nice about georgia. They say it is the city too busy it hate. Thats a nice thing. Your thoughts, john . Eugene is right. I think also over the years, a lot of africanamericans flocked back it georgia. But also have you a huge influx of hispanics working on the farms and different agriculture interest in the state. Thats whats led it a bolstering of the Hispanic Community within georgia and made it an opportunity for republicans if they have that conversation. Yeah, 500,000 new hispanic voters since 2000. Democratics alone wont turn georgia blue this year. Turning g into mitt romney with wealthy elitist with a questionable corporate background. New york times writes today quote mr. Purdue was chief executive of a textile manufacturer that went bankrupt aep closed in 2003 leaving 7500 people unemployed after mr. Purdue left the company. And the geo primary made ready made attacks to use in the fall. Purdue criticized, a fellow opponent, one of them with, for only having a high school degree. And others for not living outside the United States. This may not fit well with regular people down there. Lets watch. Look at the background bb look at credentials. Okay. Im sorry, these issues are so theres only one candidate in this race what an odd thing to say. Youre supposed to have time living outside the United States for your i dont know, your construction of your personality and mind . Perdues primary candidate, profiting in business, while their employees lost their jobs. Here is part after video, a Senate Campaign committee already set out. David, your golden parachute was 42 million over two years. Not bad work if can you get it. David, it doesnt take a college degree to figure out with your record of sending out college degreeses, giving out thousands losing their jobs you walk away with millions, you took millions in corporate welfare even

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