The war on terror. Our strategy will fail again. This president needs to rise to the occasion before we all get killed back here at home. Theyre wrong now, as they were then. President obamas moving with caution and calculated force. And this is what we need. Not another rush into war. Thanks for watching. Im al sharpton. Hardball starts right now. A fight on all fronts. Lets play hardball. Good evening, im chris matthews. Up in philadelphia, four big battles in the news tonight, one with african countries in chaos, the u. S. Gets thrown into the front line in the ebola fight. Two, the United StatesSupreme Court refuses to fight gay marriage sex, 30 states now will honor samesex marriage. Three, why cant democrats get some respect for fighting the jobs war . Even with ten million new jobs since the bush meltdown. Thats what i want to know. Four, the fight between ben affleck and bill maher on whether to blame islam for the terror wars. Im with affleck. Knocking someones religion is the way to start a fight, no way to cool one. And why a cameraman who contracted ebola is now back in the u. S. His parents said he was scared, but relieved to be back in the country. Meanwhile, the liberian man being treated in dallas took a turn for the worse over the weekend. Hes in critical condition. Now receiving an experimental drug to fight the disease. And the dallas d. A. s office is talking about filing criminal charges for lying in order to board the plane and come here. There are 48 people now being monitored in dallas for signs of ebola. Including ten people who had
direct contact with the liberian visitor. Today a nurse in spain was confirmed to have the disease. He reportedly came into contact with a spanish missionary who was being treated at the hospital. In monrovia, they began construction of a field hospital. They will also build 17 emergency treatment units for the public with a hundred beds in each. Were joined by a reporter from the Washington Post and an expert on Infectious Diseases at the university of texas. Late today president obama said officials were working on additional screening of passengers coming to the u. S. Well also be working on protocols to do additional passenger screening both at the source and here in the United States. All of these things make me confident that here in the United States, at least, the chances of an outbreak, of an
epidemic here are extraordinarily low. But lets keep in mind that as we speak, there are children on the streets, dying of this disease. Thousands of them. So obviously, my first job is to make sure that were taking care of the American People. But we have a larger role than that. We also have an obligation to make sure that those children and their families are safe as well. Im trying to figure out about how we look at this. I guess if were complete nationalists, we could talk like donald trump and say, close the door to any travel. Very few people think like that is this about nationalism, or being a human being and if we dont deal with it in west africa, were going to have to deal with it here . Yes, exactly. This is a Global Health crisis, and you need to treat this at
the source. The outbreak is in africa, not by freaking out in the u. S. This is one case in dallas. Over 3,800 deaths have been reported in the three countries hardest hit. And those are underreported. A lot of the basic treatment is within the capability of the world to do. They just need to pour a lot of resources, according to the Global Health experts. And that hasnt been done. If that is done, and they can get it in time, you can dramatically cut the transmission and spread of this disease. One reason for the freaking out, as you call it, is probably the thought that i had, is the president said it was unlikely for it to come here. Was that a wise statement for him to make . Well, i think you have to do the math. Back in the end of july, there had been 2,000 cases reports and two cases were then going to other countries. One was to nigeria and one to senegal. Thats a ratio of 2,002 going
out. 1 case for every thousand cases. Its easy to see how if you have tens of thousands of cases and people are not getting properly treated or isolated and protected, then it is going to spread. I think that when it comes to the United States, the United States and dr. Gisberg can probably speak to this, has a much Stronger Public health system. Hospitals give better care. You get i. V. Fluids. Youre monitored. Its much Better Health care than folks in west africa, where theres countries have been ravaged by civil war and they dont have basic health care in the hospitals. Doctor, how are we better off than the countries in west africa . In the reporting today, seemed like there was a lot of chaos over there. These countries are living in many ways on their operational budget. They cant put money into infrastructure. Ive seen it all over africa. This is an example where they can build up a tremendous store
of potential resources to use in emergency because theyre living hand to mouth, paycheck to paycheck over in those countries. Chris, thats correct. These are great points. Youre looking at guinea, sierra leone, liberia, three of the poorest countries on the planet earth. So its the poor Public Health infrastructure there thats really contributed to these outbreaks. So they really dont have the resources. They dont have the hospitals. They dont have the staff. And as sad as it is, the humanitarian efforts that have taken place there, i mean, theyre running out of simple things like gloves and gowns and masks and things like that. And all of these things contribute to the outbreak and make it worse. I mean, i was very glad that the president announced that the u. S. Military was stepping in to provide, you know, mobile hospitals and things like that. I worked for the army for 23
years. Theyre great at this. Theyre trained to do this. And really this is the key to stopping this outbreak. Stop it over there on the ground, break the chain of transmission. Get people back coming to the hospitals. We established that infrastructure, we support it and thats really the best way to control the outbreak. Liberias president said back in august that part of the reason for the spread of ebola in her country, had to do with misinformation and culture. She said, quote, we have been unable to control the spread due to continued denials, cultural burying practices, disregard for the advice of Health Workers and disrespect for the warnings by the government. Im not knocking anybodys cultures, but apparently the way in which they treat the dead is so personal, so physical, that its very hard to break people from religious tradition. Doctor . Thats part of the problem. Historically, these outbreaks have occurred in Central Africa. Theyve been a little bit
smaller. Smaller villages and cities. And youve had some organizations, the world health organization, the u. S. Center for Disease Control and prevention, humanitarian aid organizations like msf, they bring skilled people, they go in, its a sad situation for that area. But they isolate the contacts and it burns out. The other thing theyve done a tremendous job of in Central Africa is educating the public. So they do, you know, public education, public awareness, you know, ive been over there several times. They teach people, you know, dont do this. Dont touch the body during the burial process. This is a new problem to west africa. I think thats in part contributed to the magnitude of this outbreak. Today, Texas Governor rick perry said the government had to do more to control the entry of people with ebola into this country. Lets watch governor perry. Washington needs to take
immediate steps to minimize the dangers of ebola and other Infectious Diseases. To begin with, Customs Officials and Border Patrol agents at all points of entry should immediately be directed to conduct enhanced screening procedures. Let me go for the last word on that. What should we be doing . What should the United States be doing at the airports, in hospitals . Whats the lesson of the last couple days . I think for hospitals, the lesson has been, even though there has been guidance and protocols and a lot of discussions since this first came on the american radar when the two americans were flown back, i think hospitals are finding that the practical challenges are very differ than just having to know how to do infection control. Most places can do the isolation, but then it comes down to, okay, how big of a room do you need . Do you need to have room for a bed . Do you need to have room for a
bed and Laboratory Equipment . Do you need room for a bed, Laboratory Equipment, and medical care . And what about training . Hospitals are trying to get lessons from emory and the university of nebraska, two hospitals that have taken care of ebola patients, to learn from them. And on the screening, i think there is some discussion that the president said there was going to be more screening protocols. Thats right. But if youre in liberia, and you have means, and you get sick and youre worried youre not going to get good care in your country, then maybe you would just get on the plane and lie and fly to someplace you could get good care. I guess that goes back to what Public Health officials are saying. If you can get the good care in the place where the outbreak is, and get it under control and get people to trust you and understand that youre not there spreading the disease, then you go a long way to helping to curb
the outbreak. We have a long way to go culturally to prove our own goodwill and youre right, what good is it to set up a situation forcing people to lie their way to this country, like with mr. Duncan and having to run down all the contacts he may have made. This is big picture. But we cant be nationalistic about it. We have to be, not one world, but certainly it is our world. Thank you both for joining us. Coming up, a big victory for supporters of samesex marriage. A huge victory after the Supreme Court denied appeals from five states seeking gaymarriage bans. That means 3 5 of the country allow samesex marriage. With the economy gaining teams, a quarter million jobs last month, president obama and the democrats take some credit. No. Why dont they get any credit . Also well look ahead to the
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plus the district of columbia. This morning, the Supreme Court rejected appeal cases from five states, meaning that Lower Court Decisions go into effect immediately. That means the courts action instantly makes gay marriage legal in the following five states. Utah, oklahoma, wisconsin, indiana, and virginia. And as a result of todays action, marriage will soon be legal in six other states that are included in the federal Appeals Court ruling. They are wyoming, colorado, kansas, North Carolina, south carolina, and west virginia. And thats a dramatic change. Gay marriage will be legal in 30 states plus d. C. Thanks to the Supreme Courts decision today, or refusal to take up the case in virginia, samesex marriages were performed today merely hours after the decision. Lets watch. Dearly beloved, we have joined together to join this woman and this woman in the holy
state of matrimony. Today, republican governor threw in the towel. He said for us, its over in wisconsin. Congressman, what do you make of turning the sward over in this battle by the governor . All year hes been fighting this, taking it to every level to fight the decision that said it was unconstitutional to not allow Marriage Equality. But now hes listening to the Supreme Court. While weve had a big victory today for a lot of people across the country, we cant spike the ball yet. Theres still a lot to do around employee nondiscrimination, making sure the kids dont commit suicide, and a lot of work still to do, but its a big victory. Just following up on that logic, for a gay kid, who believes hes guy in his teenage
years. The knowledge that marriage is equal. That you can have a samesex marriage, will that eampt alleviate that pressure of social isolation . You know, its a huge thing. Because we all know, people go to weddings. People who are married, you know what families are. When you have that definition allowing all people to be treated equally under the law, that really defines all treatme treatment equal under the law. So its a big thing for youth facing these troubles, but we have work to do, but its certainly a huge victory today. Steve, i worked in Democratic Politics all those years, and you were too, all those years. Are you surprised in the space of a dozen years, from the first time massachusetts did this, and then you had three states vote for it by popular referendum, are you surprised weve come to this 30 states, a dramatic majority, having Marriage Equality . Its a dramatic step, chris. I got to say im surprised how quickly its happened. I think the reason its happened, people get married and people around them see that their lives are better, and nothings changed in the world. Like all the bad things that the antimarriage people say is going to happen dont happen. I remember talking to our friend barney frank about six months after massachusetts had marriage and i said, whats going on up there . He said theres nothing new. People are getting married and their kids and coworkers are getting married and everybody likes it. I saw barney at an event in philadelphia here and i was the straight guy in the room. A number of other straight people were there, terry gross was there. And barney would talk to the young people there, the young gay couples that were there, and he said, keep hope, things are changing. I thought that was such a powerful message of hope in a way that really, in this case, steve, was appropriate. Because its true. The country has changed its heart. In many cases. Its a huge deal. And in all these states where people are going to get married, it sends a signal up and down, all across oklahoma, or utah, or wyoming, that its okay to be gay. And that its good to be gay and its a joyous occasion when two people get married, no matter whether theyre lgbt or not. Did you come out at a certain point in your life . Or did you let it come out gradually . Did you make a statement . I remember. You know, i grew up, when i was in college, you had to make a decision to let other people know you were gay. By making that decision, hopefully you changed some peoples minds. In 1982 when i was in college and did it, it was not an easy thing to do, because you got a lot of bad reactions. Republicans are grappling that young people are moving towards gay marriage acceptance, even support. This pew poll tells the story. With poll numbers like that in mind that House Speaker john boehner will visit california this week to raise money for an openly guy republican candidate. Heres part of a campaign ad. Pay attention to the first two images. Lets watch. He believes in equality and diversity and is a defender of our persona