We talk about the hbo film confirmati confirmation. Until monday, for moark and me. Hardball with chris matthews. Donald trump, is what we see, what we get . Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im chris matthews. Donald trumps message to the Republican Party, lets get together. His advisors are signaling that trump is moving to a new phase and hes ready to Start Playing a new part. The campaign released this new ad in pennsylvania. Wbr id wbr496 well cut taxes for the middle class, negotiate new trade deal, bring back job, save b
social security, end illegal immigration, build the wall, strengthen our military, knock out isis and take care of our great veterans. Were going to make America Great again. Not everyone is willing to accept the new trump. Kati packer, a former wbrid wbr798 advisor who heads the main stop trump effort wrote its not too late. As Republican Leaders its critical that you do everything in your power to prevent donald trump from being our partys standard bearer. The only problem is her side is in retreat. Trumps message has put Party Leaders on the defensive. Perhaps most important there doesnt seem to be an alternative to the frontrunner. Robert costa and msnbc political analyst is the chairman of the American Conservative Union and joy reid is an msnbc
correspondent. Lets start with robert costa. Is this a Fair Assessment looking to stop trump, trump swept it this tuesday and now you dont seem to hear much about the stop trump movement. Chris, im here in hollywood, florida just across the street. Having meetings all day yesterday and today with members of the Republican National committee trying to get their pulse of whats happening with the party. Theres a sense among many of them and acceptance fees that trump will be the nominee and willing to accept theres some resistance. What were seeing in florida at the rnc is a fall in the relations. Whos changed. Have they changed or is trump changed . Trumps changed. He hasnt done sunday shows in a couple of weeks. Hes got Paul Manafort assuring the party elite he will be a different kind of candidate. The Party Members are changing as well. Theres a sense that cruz has to win indiana in early may. His Campaign Needs to find fire or else it will probably be trump. Thats the acceptance part of this whole scene. Donald trumps top aid met with members of the committee. He said the trump you see on the campaign trail is different than the trump you see is different than the one you see in party. The calls the public trump the partys being playing. He promised that trump was evolving. Thats his words. Lets listen. Trumps negatives are negatives that deal with his personality. People dont know what to make of him. Some of the ways hes presented
issue. As opinion pamanager, fixing character negatives you cant change. Hes talking business and hes talking politics its a different persona. Hes talking about the kind of thing hes talking about, hes projecting it. Thats for that purpose. The party is e vovlinvolving. Negatives will come down. The image will change. Let me ask you about it. I want to get to joy with the same question. Say we all understand. A decision by a Paul Manafort on behalf of his client, not to do the sunday shows. Explain why they would make a decision. They like to do as many of the shows on sunday morning. Why would he decide as a strategy right now, no more sunday morning . I think in the Trump Campaignthey understand the concept of over exposure. He had a rough match. You can see the Trump Campaign and trump himself decided to go a little bit more muted. Muted for him. I think its working. I have a more concern. Joy, do you have my answer . Its my answer im looking for. Why not do the sunday morning shows which your free to do. Why would he say im going to give up that because i fear something . Because i think that Paul Manafort, they are attempting to create the impression that there is this more president ial, different, manageable donald trump out there. They dont want to allow the actual donald trump who is a showman to manifest that hes still the same guy. I think this is Paul Manafort and the professional side of the Trump Campaign attempting to give a false impression. That theres this urbane president ial donald trump that they will with hold from you until just the right time. I think its discipline. I think they want to keep him on the issue hes strong. I would say talk building, jobs, economic, trade. Those are your babies. Social issues youre not strong on. Dont get into Foreign Policy. R they really realize hes the frontrunner. One little mistake can get this derailed. I think its a typical thing to play it a little more safe. Thats what you do when you have a little less exposure. Why would you think . Heres a guy that was able to call in three or four sunday shows and get all the ink that comes of that, and now he
doesnt want it. My colleagues and i sat down with Paul Manafort yesterday and said what is this tempo. He said watch this coming wednesday. Trump will give a big Foreign Policy speech. He said thats the trump to come. Whatever they need to do, tv appearances, theyll do it. They think they need to repair their relationships with the party but also underscores policy positions with some of these big showcases. Well, trump told sean hannity its time pr the Republican Party to unite. He can envision a role for his team for some of his former opponents. Lets look at this little seduction going on here. Lets watch. Frankly, marco, id love to have involved. Honestly, many of them almost, all of them, im not saying all of them but almost all of them. The party has to unite. This party will have a huge
victo victory. Then youll have the house and the senate. If im running, im going to win michigan. I have a chance at winning new york. Thats a tough one. As i told you, republicans dont Even Campaign in new york. Its interesting, joy. First of all, he picked up dr. Carson. That was an early pick up into his team and then Chris Christie who may be running from vp. Hes looking for shotgun to do after this term. Little marco now. Little marco. Ill have a big role for little marco. Its so kind hes bringing him into his nest. Its unbelievable. Hes gone from ridicule to seduction. You watch the management of the trump 2. 0. He still gets back on it. He cant help himself. When the campaign understood that she doesnt have the depth to really go it on her own. We need to bring her in, manage her and create sort of a shadow sarah palin for the public to consume so you could feel she was more prepared than she is. Yesterday, manafort said that trump is ready to work with the party. Were here to let them know we will run a Traditional Campaign with them. Were the nominee of the Republican Party. Its going to be a trump brand of the party. We are republicans. Were running as team. That would be quite a shift. Lets watch them there. The system is a bad, bad system. They got to do something about it. The Republican Nationalcommittee better get going. Youre going to have a rough july at that convention. These are dirty tricksters. This is a dirty trick. The rnc, the Republican National committee they should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this kind of crap to happen. Is that style or substance . I think thats just real trump. I think thats ha he thinks about when he sees this what happens in colorado. I think he likes to have the big primaries. He doesnt like caucuses and these conventions. It doesnt play to his strength. At the same time the campaign is smart enough to realize we have to charm delegates nape will play a huge role. His Campaign Team was down in florida. They met with all three. Theyve had very good meetings and feel confident that they are
on the right path. Youve interviewed him. You know. Youve been in a room with no cameras when hes just commune indicating to you. There there is a different trump. He can speak calmly without any hype. You know that guy exists. Youve interviewed him with times without the noise and craziness. Is that the real trump . His speaking style is the same in private. His demeanor is more low key. Hes an entertainer in part when hes on the stage. Thats what the manafort message was. He can be serious. Were going to try to normalize him for the Republican Party for those who have been skiddish about him for months. Hillary clinton is different
in person. Its more like an exchange. I do think hes a showman. How thats for daring statement. The big buzz down here this florida, Vice President ial speculation. Cruz, kasich are starting to privately vet some possible candidates. Picking a vp, going to the Convention Even if they dont have the delegates and try to get the campaign some momentum. Its an interesting dynamic. Whos on the list . You got a will the of conservatives but kasich, rouub, youre trying to pull some people from the center. What about trump . Trump, we asked manafort, he said hes not starting the vp speculation. He said he wants an insider. Someone who can help him out. Thank you. Coming up, did joe biden just give Bernie Sanders reason to keep up his attacks against Hillary Clinton . Figuring out biden is fascinating. He says democrats dont win when they dont think big. Thats oxygen for bernie. Fueling a fresh round of attacks. Whats biden up to . What sanders hoping to gain from bidens support at this point. Plus major expansion of Voting Rights in a state that may decide the president ial election. Virgin virginia, its governor is coming here. The Republican Partying in its
grudging acceptance phase of donald trump. Which donald trump are they accepting . After all his top campaign guy says trump has been playing part. Let me finish with ive just been accorded from the aisle of saints and scholarscholars. This is hardball, the place for politics. Ive been blind since birth. I go through periods where its hard to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. Learn about non24 by calling 8448442424. Or visit my24info. Com. You want to tune in tonight at 10 00 eastern. Ive got a special look at the democratic frontrunner. There she is. A brand new documentary, Hillary Clinton, it take a country. It looks at her rise in politics. Now top democrat in the race for the presidency. Thats 10 00 eastern and sunday night at 9 00 eastern right here on msnbc. Well be right back. You loved brad. And then you totaled him. You two had been through everything together. Two boyfriends, three jobs. Youre like nothing can replace brad. Then Liberty Mutual calls, and you break into your happy dance. If you sign up for better car replacement™, well pay for a car thats a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. See Car Insurance in a whole new light. Liberty mutual insurance. Youto get the help yourefar looking for. Thats why at xfinity were opening up more stores closer to you. Where you can use all of our latest products and technology. And find out how to get the most out of your service. So when you get home, all you have to do is enjoy it. Were doing everything we can to give you the best experience possible. Because we should fit into your life. Not the other way around. When i talk about the differences between secretary clinton and myself, one of the major differences is precisely how we raise money for our campaigns. Secretary clinton has chosen to raise her money a different way with several super pacs. In addition to that, as you know, secretary clinton has given speeches on wall street for 225,000 a speech. Not a bad days work. I think a speech of that extraordinary magnitude should be shared with the american people. Welcome back to hardball. That was Bernie Sanders continuing his assault on Hillary Clinton. The democrats take their fight to pennsylvania,
backing off his attacks. Biden has given sanders more oxygen to attack clinton. He hit back saying i like the idea of we can do so much more. We ought to really downsize here because its not realistic. Come on, man. This is biden. This is the democrat party. Im not part of the party that says we cant do it. Last night senator sanders took full advantage of the Vice President s kma president s comment. He said this. I think the Vice President is right. That is what this campaign is about. Thats right. It is about having the courage to face the reality of American Life today. Understand that reality is not
always a pleasant reality wu have the courage to take on the special interests who are preventing us from going forward. The New York Times john harwood says he remains neutral in the battle between per knee sanders and Hillary Clinton but not between their campaign styles. Jeff weaver is the Campaign Manager for Bernie Sanders. Hes here with me. The former major of philadelphia is backing Hillary Clinton. This should be a heavy weight battle. What do you make of the fact that not only is Bernie Sanders sticking in this race, not especially a bad policy there. Hes sticking the knife in her. Hes going after character. Hes saying she took the money. Hes mocking her saying it must be pretty good speech, 20 minutes for a quarter million. Thats more than my wife and i made in a whole year. I think thats brilliantly negative. I think it has a lasting effect going into november. I do. I think it will make it much for difficult for Bernie Sanders to endorse secretary clinton after the convention in a credible way. The republicans put some of the stuff up on the air and it will attack senator sanders credibility. I think Bernie Sanders has every right to compete. Weve got five primaries on tuesday including pennsylvania, maryland and connecticut. Three fairly large states. I think the senator will look at the results on tuesday night and wednesday morning and says what he wants to keep doing. My hope is and i believe that secretary clinton will win all three states. My hope is Bernie Sanders will say im going to continue because i owe it to the people working their hearts out for me in california to be on the ballot. I owe it to my supporters to get nominated at the convention. Im going to stop the personal attacks and talk about things i want to do for this country and
change its tone. I hope thats what happens. Jeff, will that happen . Its not a personal attack at all. The fact the secretary took the speeches and refuses to divulge what was said and they have business, i think she should tell us whats in the speeches. Well, your candidate, senator sanders ever endorse her if she doesnt release them or is that a condition . Hes always said he will endorse it. Its damaging to her not only in the primary but the general election. Why wont she release whats in the speeches . What does it say about her . What does it say about her politically . Its character issues. She should release whats in the speeches. This will put it to rest. You suggest shes honest in dealing with it. Its a question of not telling
whats in the speeches. I guess we disagree. You dont think its lack of transparency . I think its all of those things. I think she has a problem taking the money. Something does blow peoples minds when she makes more in 20 minutes than the sanders family make in a year. I think that does bother people. Our april nbc wall street journal poll said this, its striking. 56 of both the clinton and trump people, their voters today identified are supporting their candidates mainly because they do not want the other to be president. In other words, they are voting against someone, not for someone. Governor, isnt this going to feed that. The fact that you have republicans out there not enamored of donald trump. Sure it is. Theres no doubt about that. The question is has it affected a decision shes made. Dana bash asked senator sanders to name one decision affected by her taking this money and senator sanders couldnt. Not because he didnt know of any, because there are none. Thats the truth. Yes, these attacks will continue to make it more difficult. It will feed the beast. Its going to make it more difficult for a democratic candidate who is for the same time of Supreme Court as Bernie Sanders is whos forgetting rid of income inequality as Bernie Sanders is and universal health care. A different mode to get there. All the things that Bernie Sanders believe in, hes jeopardizing by continuing to attack the person that will be nominee. Respond to that. Hillary clinton doesnt support what Bernie Sanders supports. What would deal did she strike to take that money . Let me rely what did she do for it . Let he rely on elizabeth warren. Lets start there. Was that related . Are you saying her speaking for Goldm