Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20160502

MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews May 2, 2016 23:00:00

Join us tomorrow for the hoosiers state election day coverage. Until then, im not going to cry anymore but i will say sigh narcotbye. Hardball with Chris Matthews is next. The hoosiers bring closure. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews in washington. The stop Trump Movement is on the verge of collapse. Ted cruz and john kasich formed an alliance and hoped to set up a roadblock in indiana tomorrow. Polls show the new york businessmen to sweep the state. The latest nbc news wall street journal poll of likely Republican Voters shows trump with a 15point lead over cruz in indiana. Thats tomorrow. Cruz is increasingly desperate, of course. Last week we rushed out the running mate selection and yesterday warned indiana voters to quote not give into evil. Well, there was a Campaign Stop today when cruz walked over to a group of Trump Supporters well defined and identified as Trump Supporters and tried winning them over. Lets watch this event. Im running to be everyones president. Those who vote for me we dont want you. Well, youre entitled to your view do the math. Do the math asked kasich to drop out. Its your turn. You are the problem. You are the problem politician. Politician after owl of the candidates, name one that had a Million Dollar judgment against him for hiring illegal immigrants. Name one. Selffunded. Thats right. Okay. So you like not you. Where is your Goldman Sachs jacket at . We know your wife works there. Youll find out tomorrow. Indiana dont want you. Sir, youre entitled yes, we do sir, america is a better country. Without you. Thank you for those kind sentiments. Let me point out ive treated you respectfully the entire time, and a question that everyone here should ask are you canadian . There was like this afternoon trump praised proptester, lets watch trump now. He actually said how is your loan doing at Goldman Sachs. Thats cool. Whoever he is, he was cool. Him and his friends because they are not going to be buffaloed by lies. Well, trump also mocked ted cruz for dpfailing to come to t aid of Carly Fiorian slipped off the stage introducing her. Trump called it weird cruz didnt do anything to help. He picks carly. Carly is perfectly nice. By the way, she fell off the stage the other day. Did anybody see that . Cruz didnt do anything. Even i would have helped her, okay . I said wow, thats really cruel. She went down. She went down a long way, right . She went down right in front of him and he was talking, kept talking. He didnt even look like that was a weird deal. Andrew sullivan is a contributing editor just out cover story for the magazine warns trump is an extinction level event in american democracy and susan paige and Jeremy Peters reporter for the New York Times. Jeremy, i loved your piece today, top right hand, the top piece of the day, right . I thought it was good because it said something is basically happened, which is all the talk of a stop Trump Movement based upon the id cruz would be the last man standing there is dynamic. When you get to be the last man, the other people and the front runner is just in galloping speed by then and losing support every hour. It also should mean people want to vote for you and thats been ted cruz problem all along and thats the problem with the never Trump Movement. Its never trump and then okay, so who do we vote for . Fall income wind behind ted cruz is very difficult for a lot of these republicans because hes not a palatable alternatives. Do any candidates, did any of the candidates exhibit any kind of charisma opposing trump for the nomination . Susan . No, no. Never just an accident. He was up against some of the dullest, dullest politicians ever. He is, of course, he is pretty exciting. I mean, hes pretty dynamic and proved himself trump, trump. Nobody else. I actually think is republicans are saying hes going to get nominated. Lets make the best of it. Some republicans are trying to think beyond after trump what happens to the party. Thats what cruz is about to think. You dont want to play this game. Im getting a strong look. Im not. Just looking at you. Theres this thing called politics and you have to have charisma. Is any guy capable of thinking up a joke on the occasion, say something whitty and interesting even ever. Trump at least is a stand up guy. I dont have to like him or support him but hes a show and the other guys arent a show. Youre right. Were not covering a general election. Were covering reality can i actually finish my sentence. Only after you get me right. Were covering elections and voters are voting for this guy. Sit a tv reality show. Thats how youre presenting it and thats what were looking at who will win wind wiindiana, show . Trump changed the rules. Okay. All these president ial debates turned out to be Television Reality show episodes. Have they ever not been . Yeah, they have. Okay. When they actually had deliberation, arguments back and forth hasnt put forward a single sane argument because hes been able to completely change the rules of the game. This is entertainment now. Every fun he can have, every joke he has okay. Meanwhile, hes platformed. I guess i missed most of American History because i remember Ronald Reagan debating there you go again and flattening with that line. That was one line in the debate. Hes only got one line. How about wheres the beef to gary that knocked him out . There is a lot of though yaceat this business . There is. You think people vote for him because they are entertained by him . No, because of the message. Because think are frustrated. Whats his message . His message is there are people to blame for your plyte. Who are they . China is raping us. Mexican immigrants, undocumented immigrants are the reason for your problems. We got to actually round up and deport 11 million of them. Okay. And muslims are your problem. Thats what well lets who has beenfe effective in protecting American Manufacturing base . There is more been disappearing. Carriers leaving now. Manufacturing output in this country is the highest it has ever been. The question is not about manufacturing. Productivity not jobs. Not jobs. Thats what people care about. I know they care about. And they are disappearing. They have been to some extend, yes. Who is responsible . The trade is responsible. Thats what trump says. Trumps solution is what . Politician is serious about stopping illegal immigration, name one. I think name one. I think besides trump. I dont know anybody. I know a few. Lindsey graham, Chuck Schumer and late ted kennedy were serious about a comprehensive immigration bill. So is barack obama. They cant stop or build a wall. Look, the frustration explained by andrew is real. It isnttheater. A lot of people are frustrated by reality. Comprehensive liberal, anything. Nothing gets done and by the way, boehner is a reason for it bringing up to a vote. They see nothing happening which is getting obamacare. I dont want to get rid of obamacare. They dont see their goals being erased. There is frustration and person in him. I would agree that trump not show biz. Show men in someways but the reason he succeeded is because he has a message that resonates with voters so frustrated. Hes had, you know, his reeling against trade deals for instance talking about building a wall which goes to immigration. I mean hold on a second. Building a wall its a fantasy, right . Its complete fantasy. Talking about trying to trying to do something. So youre saying his platform and propels are a mere negotiating position. What does hillary say . I dont know. Shes a useless candidate. Its demagogue, of course. Your piece accused bernie of demagogue. He is against billionaires if thats the real problem. We have a difficult shifting global economy, in which, by the way, the United States is doing better than any other country on the planet and yes, there are winners and losers. The growth rates. No one else is doing as well as the United States and manufacturing were more ambitious on the rest of the world. And doing better than anybody else. Trump can write the history books this year and wont write down hes a great entertainer from the apprentice. You can call it anything you want to call it. Names dont mean much now. It appeals to something about national spirit, the country feels frustrated and the jobs are going away because the government isnt fighting for them. This is in the public rhetoric today. Im not making it up. Its working. A lot is disingenuous. Donald trump takes a lot of money what about the democrats . Politicians say stuff all the time with high b. S. Quality. Raising minimum wage is a lot to do. They dont demonize sections and decembiscriminate religion. Thats different no, he does them both like any reality television, which is what he is live tv. We dont use that word here. He has a message but his style here is the point. So what is he . A comedian, a side show, or hes a dangerous fastous. Hes leaving the rest of us in the dust. And its terrifying to watch. Okay. Susan . You heard that voice, what youve hearing . There are people who agree with you who see him as a dangerous character but he tapped into something that resonated what the 16ther candidates didnt understand and im not sure other democrats understand it, either. It goes to real frustrations with a White American especially white men that feel like they have been dumped. Has a lot to do with the sense of country. He talks about the country, government society. Bernie has a piece about society but i think well try to figure it out. By the way, we all get to vote in november. You do, too. Welcome. Nice to have you aboard. Immigrant from a great country, as well. Not as great. Susan paige, thank you. This is a live show, you know, but you have to be nice about the words we use. I apologize for that. Weve seen how donald trump is attacking Hillary Clinton. Its clintons turn and shes going right for trump. His juggler reminding voters that trump led that old Birther Movement against president obama. Remember that one . Thats ahead. Plus the obama legacy. The president doesnt get credit for rebuilding the american economy because they spent eight years denying progress has been made. We touched on that tonight and the highest ranking conservative admits voter i. D. , the voter i. D. Laws are ones republicans are pushing across the country. The partners of the laws is to elect more republicans. Jim admitted it finally and finally, the hardball round table will tell me something i dont know. Recently republicans admit they do this to keep people from voting. This is hardball the place for politics. Intuitive. With the pressure of my hand i can draw lightly, just like i would with a real pencil. Ive been a forensic artist for over 30 years. I do the composite sketches which are the bad guy sketches. You need good resolution, powerful processor because the computer has to start thinking as fast as my brain does. I do this because i want my artwork to help people. Real is touching a ray. Amazing is moving like one. Real is making new friends. Amazing is getting this close. Real is an animal rescue. Amazing is over twentyseven thousand of them. There is only one place where real and amazing live. Seaworld. Real. Amazing its appearing Hillary Clinton will faceoff against donald trump. According to a new poll, the two likely nominees are clocked in a close race in the all important state of ohio. Lets check out the scoreboard. Clinton holding a slight advantage over trump 45 to 42 . 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Ask your doctor if 24hour breo could be a missing piece for you. See if youre eligible for 12 months free at mybreo. Com. Welcome back to hardball. The general election fight is being sharpened. Things got heated between the two after trump tweeted crooked Hillary Clinton perhaps the most dishonest person to run for presidency and great enablers. Clinton reacted in an interview with cnns jake tapper. You know, remember, i have a lot of experience dealing with men who sometimes get off the reservation in the way they believe and how they speak. Im not going to deal with their temper tantrums or bullying or their efforts to provoke me. He can say whatever he wants. Here is what trump had to say about that. She said im used the word. Certain word. Off the reservation. I said to myself, thats a horrible expression. If i would have used that expression maybe in the opposite form, it would have been a front page story. Thats a very demeaning remark. Demeaning remark to me. Thats interesting. Last night clinton previewed general election attacks on trump proving shes ready to take him on by reminding voters of Donald Trumps public record. The leading republican contender is the man who led the insidious Birther Movement to discredit the president s citizenship and when she was asked in a National Television interview to dissupport supreme cyst supporting his campaign, he fell adecoy. We cannot let the presidency lay in Donald Trumps hands. Clinton is referring to trumps 2011 crusade to release president obamas official birth s certificate out of hawaii. I was just informed while on the helicopter that our president has finally released a birth certificate. Id want to look at it but i hope its true. Im honored to played such a big role in hopefully, hopefully getting rid of this issue. Now, we have to look at it. We have to see is it real . Is it proper . Whats on it . But i hope it checks out beautifully. Im joined right now by minnesota democratic senator and clinton supporter. You know, i dont know what to say but he hasnt talked about that birther thing. If anybody of sound mind and body thought about what hes saying is a white woman from kansas married a guy from kenya and then went over to kenya and had the baby and then pretended she was having the baby in hawaii and had the birth certificates faked and hospital and the newspaper accounts fake so she could make him president some day, this woman wanted her son to be president so marries a guy with Barack Hussain obama. Whatever your philosophy is, its the craziest, craziest Conspiracy Theory ever. And he sold it for, what, years . Yeah. He did. Thats the journey through his mind and i have to say, look at how he did this effectively throughout the republican pro primary. Low energy, little marco rubio. The names, blaming, finger pointing. Big ears. You know what shes doing . Hillary clinton is doing and started it no better place than indiana on sunday. Shes going to hit back and shes going to define him because he has been literally branding people. He hasnt been talking about issues but running a Marketing Campaign and the American People deserve better. Lets talk about the argument we just had you over heard with Andrew Sullivan that says trump is a showman. A guy who used television values, of usually crazy lines like youre talking about, stick if you say it in a show biz sense and shes a good showman. Is that the reason hes winning the republican nomination . Shes a good show . We know a number of policies they have been pushing, not just him but candidates arent in sync where the people of america are where you look at Hillary Clinton who won, what, 3 million more votes, the million more votes on the democratic or republican side. Shes been talking about the issues and differences between her and Bernie Sanders are so small compared to what were talking about with these guys. They are debating what the Percentage Rate should be on Student Loans and how we can save money for students. Some candidates are talking about getting rid of the department of education. Shes talking about her approach internationally, her qualifications. Donald trump is talking about nuclear arms in Asian Countries and building a wall and not letting muslims in this country. There is a major difference between the two parties and i think she just started laying that out last night and thats what youre going to see going forward. Obviously democrats are edagr to capitalize on the history. U. S. Senate candidate Conner Eldridge released this video tieing the opponent to trumps behavior. Watch this. She ate like a pig. Id like her right in that fat ugly face of hers. He once sent her a picture with the words the face of a do dog. The boob job is terrible. Looks like two in the body. Treat women with respect. You know, weve heard that. Dismay like everybody else because i never thought about that behavior. It is public. Look at the latest numbers from ohio. Hes in a race with hillary neck and neck. Thats a wonderfully state. We know ohio i

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