Shows doing nothing is no longer a position that people can hold. They have to do something. Its unfortunate this is how it went down. It shows that, you know, the American People are outraged and wants something to be done and Still Congress is just not quite there. And so we have to hold them accountable in november. All right. Colin, luke, thanks for joining us. That will wrap it up for this hour of coverage on nbc. Dont go anywhere. Hardball starts right now. Lewandowski, youre fired. Lets play hardball. Good evening, everyone. Im joy reid in tonight for chris matthews. With four weeks to go until the Republican Convention, theres been a big shakeup in the campaign. The news comes as trump is slipping in the polls badly behind in fundraising and under pressure for failing to curve his habit of making controversial comments. Particularly in the last several weeks. One Campaign Insider told nbc the move was meant to signal to republicans that trump understands things havent been working and that changes are needed. According to nbcs katy tur lewandowski was escorted from trump tower by security. Trumps son said thats just how things are done. There is protocols in place. I dont care if youre an intern or this. When those things happen, thats what happens. Lewandowski has been with trump since the start of the campai campaign. Trump stood by him when he was accused of physically assaulting a female reporter. I dont discard people. I stay with people. Thats why i stay with this country and a lot of people treated unfairly and thats one of the reasons im the front
runner by a lot. According to bloomberg, trump advisors huddled to discuss a political central gee shift as he looks to move beyond recent missteps this afternoon lewandowski said he was honored to be part of the campaign. I had a great conversation with mr. Trump and i can tell you this, its been a privilege for me to serve the last 19 months on this campaign, a campaign that nobody gave us credit on being successful and i have a small part of that and i can tell you i have no regrets. Its been an honor and i respect mr. Trump. I respect him more so than any other person thats ever entered this race and ill do Everything Possible through me and my friends and my family to ensure that donald trump is the next president of the United States. In a sign of just how unusual the Trump Campaign is, one of trumps top advisors, michael responded to the news with glee. He wrote on twitter minutes after the news broke, ding dong the witch is dead. Late today he resigned saying he regretted sending out the tweet. Meanwhile, there is new evidence how much ground trump has to make up. A monomouth poll shows he is 4740. Can he make that up . Howard fineman is global editor. Katy, i want you to walk us through this extraordinary day of events and how did the firing go down. Reporter im told lewandowski was blind sided with this and texting with reporters this morning unaware this would happen and im told the rnc was given notice before lewandowski was told. Im told that he was alerted of news in person this morning around 9 30 a. M. And then he had a phone conversation with donald
trump, which was described as amicable. He was escorted from the premise here at trump tower by security. Donald trump telling me that is standard protocol from anybody fired from their organization or from the campaign. Why did this happen, joy . Weve been hearing issues with Corey Lewandowski for almost the entirety of the campaign certainly coming to a head in the past few months. According to sources, they say Corey Lewandowski did not get along can colleagues, he was trying to under cut them and block staffing and consolidate power and block information getting to donald trump that he did not agree with. When Paul Manafort was brought on board, he felt threatened and tried to under cut the influence and he also did not get along with people at the rnc. He was problematic with a loose
hot temper. He wasnt necessarily clear in his messaging, often paul man fort would make a decision and Corey Lewandowski would go against that decision. It wasnt clear who was really in charge of the campaign. The kids were also not on his side. They have been trying to convince their dad for months that lewandowski was not right to helm the campaign, that they needed somebody with more experience to run a president ial campaign and somebody steadier and could give donald trump advice and the strategy he needed. Corey lewandowskis model had been let trump be trump and it worked for him. They won the primaries and part of the reason im told donald trump did not let him go sooner is they were winning. No reason to fix him and it wasnt broken. Now the past few weeks donald trump has been slipping in polls and being out spent 23 million to zero in Battle Ground states by Hillary Clinton and hes facing a mute within the
republican for and im told e v ivonka had a big say even before he assaulted a reporter in march. Today was the day they got their message through to their father and today was a day he saw it was a problem and he needed to make a change before this campaign sputtered even more. Katy, one more quick question to you because you talked there about the trump children who have been all over the news cycle today as being unflu we think so l. At the end of the day candidates make the decisions. Do you get a sense from your reporting and talking to folks in the campaign, do they think the problem was the Campaign Apparatus and Corey Lewandowski not doing a good job or believe the problem might actually be the candidate . Well, its mixed. There are those who say that the campaign itself was problematic and corey blocked anyone from
getting did thes ear and advising him to back off things. I have from my previous reporting been told by multiple sources that that is not necessarily true. Donors, campaign staff, aids, Party Sources and leaders told donald trump on numerous occasions certain rhetoric went too far, specifically to the judge comments but ultimately, you saw donald trump continue on with that. That is because donald trump is very much his own best advisor. He claims that he listens to his gut more than anything else and thats why youre seeing that. There is hope, there is hope among the party and hope among the children and hope among the campaign aids who are still left that Paul Manafort in charge of the campaign im told will be able to better have trumps eary influence on rhetoric. There is hope about this, joy, hope being the operative word. Donald trump has been
problematic with his words in the past and there is trust between many members of the Republican Party that hes actually going to change that i have long talked about this pivot and say they will believe it when they see it. Yesterday to the point donald trump said its common sense quote unquote to consider profiling muslims in america. I think profiling is something were going to have to start thinking about as a country. I hate the concept of profiling but we have to start using common sense and use our heads. Trump suggested if the people in the club last week in orlando were armed, thinks might have turned out differently. If some of those wonderful people had guns strapped right here, right to their waist or right to their ankle, and this son of a [ bleep ] comes out and starts shooting and one of the people in that room happened to have it and goes boom, boom you know what, that would have been
a beautiful, beautiful sight, folks. So that seemed to go too far even for nra leaders wayne and chris cox. Lets watch. Donald trump suggested conceal carry in a nightclub where people are drinking. I dont think you should have firearms. Nobody thinks people should go in a nightclub drinking and carries firearms. That defies common sense and the law. Trump clarified remarks, quote, when i said if in the orlando club you had people with guns, i was talking about additional guards or employees. Uhhuh. Bray bender of usually was not talking about this beautiful scene he thought would unfold if the people in the club while drinking on the dance floor gone rambo and stopped the shooter, is that a Corey Lewandowski problem or a donald trump problem . Well, i think that a lot of that probably is a donald trump problem, probably unfair to put that on to corey however i do think this. I think that they had to make the change today not because of corey but they have a lot of
nervous republicans, particularly big donors looking for some type of signal that things are going to change. Obviously they did a campaign change. Trump had been dating two campaign mangers. Not fair to blame it on corey. Is this an attempt to put somebody into the white house who i suppose they think Paul Manafort will manage to keep him from doing things that disturb and terrify and trattle the country for four years. Is that the idea to patch him together for four years in the office . Well, i think at this point the people around donald trump are hoping they can keep him quiet for a day or two. They would consider that a victory. The background is advising
manner of ego maniacs around the world. Strong men in the ukraine, et cetera. The theory is paul that pixes that background with knowledge, deep knowledge of Republican Party mechanics can be the guy to do it but you ask the right question. If its constantly a matter of trying to tie donald trump down, you know, like in a Jonathan Swift story of travels, i dont know how thats going to work. I think this is a victory internally for Paul Manafort and his crew. They are agagenerally older and know the Republican Party but what was happening here as john said, Republican Leaders in congress, republican donors, republican governors and senators, corporate leaders, people who have a longterm investment in the Republican Party were saying this guy is definitely going to wreck the entire party unless somebody
gets a handle on him. Not necessarily to win the election but just to keep the election cycle from being a hole cast for republicans. Thats what the concern is. I think the inner trump circle meaning donald trump in his own mind realizing that he was heading into cleveland, which is still a month away and a month is a lifetime in politics with the real danger of a rebellion at the convention of some kind improbable as it snds if mcconnell and paul ryan wanted to pull the plug on him, they would try it. And just brings before we go back to the convention, john, this begs the question once again if this, the idea that the party is so destabilized by the idea of donald trump getting through november but what if he messes around and wins . Will they do for four years . I dont know there is evidence Paul Manafort was able to change the behavior. Is the idea he would somehow evolve from november until january of next year . I want to be clear on this. First of all, it would be a mistake to think republicans think donald trump cannot win. They think that hes had some bad weeks. The bigger problem quite frankly is his campaign was totally developed to win primary elections, particularly primary early elections. The problem is he has no general election place. I was at trump towers a couple weeks ago, dropped in to say hello because i know people there. It looked like a challenger race for congress, not a president ial race. Thats because they were billed as a pr machine to win the nomination which worked but its put them in a tough situation now. They have got to move quickly to change things and i think they are trying to do that. If he wins, Paul Manafort would seize his phone for four years. Thank you very much. Thank you, joy. Chilling new details as the
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attorney general could delay the purchase of guns and arrest terror suspects and close the gun show loophole and a republican version which would improve the background check system. Joining me fresh off the floor of the senate barbara boxer. Senator boxer, if we cannot pass gun reform in the wake of sandy hook and 26 little kids and teachers getting slaughtered and cant do anything after charleston and now we cant even get republicans to sign on board when there is a terrorism related attack, do you have any hope gun reform can ever pass the United States senate . I always have hope. Thats why you have elections but if im a voter, i want to know how my senator voted. We saw today that 90 of the democrats voted two common sense reforms, joy. One basically said if the attorney general suspects youre a terrorist, you cant get a gun. Then you get due process if you want to argue with it, and the other one, which is tighten the
background checks if you bought online or at a gun show. So these two measures supported by my colleagues, 90 of them written by Diane Feinstein and chris murphy are supported by 75, 85, 90 of the American People. What is going on . We had San Bernardino where we had also a lone wolf person inspired by isis. This situation is outrageous. And i just want to mention this to you. You know, when i came into politics, it was long before you were probably even maybe born, im not sure, but it was a long time ago and we had something called the vietnam war. Over the tenyear period we lost 60,000 people soldiers there and this country over that tenyear period was divided and arguing and fighting. We lost 4,000 beautiful soldiers in iraq over ten years and the same thing, but we lose 300,000
people over ten years to gun violence and its a hummer and gotten to the point where people need to make this a voting issue. Yeah, senator we put up a statistic at this point according to a poll, 57 of americans favor returning to an assault weapons ban to say nothing of the stats you talked about and overwhelming support for things like background checks, what do your colleagues on the other side of the isle and plain to you why they wont vote to keep somebody on a territe terriorism watch list getting high powered weapons of war. My own opinion is they just listen to the National Rifle association and parrot those reasons. Goes too far. No due process. This is bad. It has nothing to do with the issue at hand and write some little phony response of a bill that does nothing. So lets be clear whats
happening. Its not