Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20160817

MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews August 17, 2016 23:00:00

Speeches and he says, ive heard, or people have said. Something well watch closely. See what investors had to say about donald trump and our new bloomberg politics. Coming up. Hardball with chris matthews. Getting nasty. Lets play hardball. Good evening. It looks like donald trump is training for the javelin. Once the olympics are over, he is gearing up to start throwing thunderbolts like a 21 century jupiter. Today he made cheer there will be no more mr. Nice guy. Not that hes been one of much before with the recruitment of kellane conway. From here on out trumps cane will be a bare knuckles ball with full blown populism politics. Well, Paul Manafort will remain his Campaign Children but it is reported, the opportunitying decision today effectively ended the months long push by Campaign Chairman manafort. So at breitbart, Stephen Bannon had a reputation for picking fights, most importantly with Hillary Clinton. A lengthy profile called him the most dangerous political operative in america and now he will be running the trump show. Same with kellyanne. She has a practiced ability to shift from defense to offense quite quickly. Always ready to land a big one on Hillary Clinton. I feel great about our position. I think well start doing at this time next few days. I think we have some pretty good adds. And well see what happens. For more on the Trump Campaign shakeup. This political analyst, for the Washington Post. Lets to go katy tur right now. Youve just been with Kellyanne Conway. What do they say about the power move . The move toward nasty, i would say. She is saying donald trump will be donald trump and he will continue doing what he has been doing. Which is appeal to working the rank and file voters in this country. Not necessarily the establishment. As you say, she is very adept at quickly going from defense to offense so she turned her argument around to Hillary Clinton repeatedly. I can tell that you there are gop operatives calling this a lastditch effort. Trump turning darker toward the antiestablishment message. Part of his campaign. Sources tell us he has been unhappy for quite some time tunneled leadership of manafort. That he has been told to control himself. To not be the man who won the primaries. He is also feeling like he knows better than everybody else and thats why this change happened. Manafort is in no way gone from the campaign. We are told he will focus more on washington. They call her a calming presence for donald trump. Somebody who can tell him no if he needs to hear no and then there is bannon who will be in charge of the punching points. Not the talking points. Weve seen as you mentioned, at breitbart. Theyve taken up trumps mantle. Theyve helped fight his wars. Going after paul ryan when donald trump is not necessarily getting along with paul ryan. Going after Hillary Clintons health with that becomes a talking point. They have been trying to push. It shblt come as a surprise but it is eye opening and worrisome for some in the establishment for those other believe he wont champion their causes. I am told by a gop sporss bannon realizes that. He called the rnc yesterday and assured them he would not go after the republicans. Theres some wariness. The let me go now to robert costa. What will we see . Based upon what happened today . Are we going to see headlines in the next couple days and weeks that had to do with populism and make america strong again and jobs and screw the bad trade deals some are we getting a message now or shots at hillary . My belief, shots at hillary are redundant. Everybody who hates her already hates her. If you want to go up, you have to do what you did at the beginning sthfl guy, breitbarts bannon, is kelly going to do it in. Conway and brannon bring certain at rebeauties. Bannon is known as someone who can rearticulate these themes. He is someone who embraced sarah palin. He sees the anticorporate message as the key to the future. He has been whispering that counsel in the past year. Go heavy on trade, illegal on immigration, conway is trying to pitch himself to we will. In the south carolina, ohio. He wants to win over those female voters to have a shot. Let me go to you. I watched Ronald Reagan come out and win an election. He talked about the economy and how we have to be stronger against iranians and it worked. He stayed on message. Trump doesnt. He had a really Good Campaign message which is, were getting pushed around. Im going to push back. That worked with a lot of regular people. Not just working people. For the last three or four weeks, it has been a crazy boomerang stuff. He gets hit. He doesnt stay on message. It is not the things that he wants to stay on message about. He has no interest in sitting down and studying briefing. Just talking like huey long. Nationalism. I dont think that this particular change is going to signal a pivot to that by any means. If somebody was going to do that. It would have been a Campaign Manager. This signals, like he said, more nationalistic some of the things weve seen on the bright b. A. R. T. Site. Doubling down. You dance with the one that brung you in politics. What brought him was nationalism. Stopping the loss of american jobs overseas to china and mexico. And stopping stupid wars. Those were cheer cut messages to working people. A thehoff middle which is a people said why dont we friday . And then he started acting like a goof again. Youre the guy out there i listen to. Can he stay on bheg this new team . Or is it going to be this boomerang stuff in. He is comfortable with this new team. He has personal chemistry. Known him for years. He knows ban often bannon speaks to him. So for the next 80 days, he is with people he likes. People he is comfortable with. And he will be this day in and day out. Telling him to go heavy on the economy. On populism. The Clinton Campaign pounced on the news. And the Campaign Manager said donald trump has dthded to double down on his most small, nasty and divisive instincts. I think it is fair to say that donald trump has shown us who he is. He can hire and fire anybody he wants from his campaign. They can make him read new words from a teleprompter but he is still the same man who insults gold star families. Demeans women. Mocks people with disabilities and thinks he knows more about isis than our generals. There is no new donald trump. This is it. Do you think trump is a better campaigner than Hillary Clinton at his best . Clinton runs a more disciplined campaign. She has a message that shes honed over the past five, six months that is tailor made for a general election. When it comes the pure charisma and rally, when youre bringing on someone like bannon, he wants one big rally. The image of politics. When it comes to wing over the swing voters, clinton seems to be in a better position. That was a very controlled speech. She went through a couple points. She read them and had it organized. Wheres the wow . Can she beat this guy without any charisma . Heres the problem. I dont think that theyre going to play a clean game here. I think that the personal stuff will get really nasty. It will start flying from the Trump Campaign. And that i think the Clinton Campaign says she can note above it. She has lots of surrogates. They go after her with the stink bombs about Monica Lewinsky who she had nothing to do with it. She didnt have anything to do with perpetrating the lewinsky affair. Look what they did this week. With raising questions about her, the state of her health. Theyll to have respond to it. My personal opinion is that they have this awesome bench of surrogat surrogates. Theyre all these surrogates. They need street fighter at this point. They need someone like Elizabeth Warren to be out there giving the brass knuckles. As we all learned in the election, you cant just let some of this stuff sit. Will that sit . The stuff that they keep hinting at . Wink, wink . She has a Health Problem . When i talk to democrats on capitol hill, theyre situation the addition of bannon in march, they wonder if this breitbart effect thats happening will trickle over to the republican party. Maybe if youre pat toomey in pennsylvania. Kelly ayotte. Maybe the style of politics doesnt play. Thats the democratic hope. You cant may with the fisticuffs . This wild attack stuff in pennsylvania wont work for toomey . It rouses the working class voters in the pennsylvania team. If this will be won in the margins and swing states, they were skittish about it. It is whether he is electrifying beam the steve bannon politics at the end of the day for those suburban voters to come out and connect with that message. I think it is the woman in the suburbs. Always because of tax bracket reasons. Now he says i cant vote for him because of the way he treats women. Btss those suburban women of people like pat toomey and pat ayotte need to get reelected and the pressure that theyll be under to distinctly distance themselves. Whether bannon and trump will have the selfcontrol to stick to that and not to bleed down and attack their own. And conway matters. She is on the plane theretrump. We all know covering donald trump. If youre next to donald trump, youre the most important person in trumps campaign. She wants to travel with him. It will be interesting to catch the nuances. Hit hard high and low. How do you do night way thats not politically interested with you will vote . Its the words you use. How do you attack hillary without attacking women . Thank you, katy tur. Still there, i believe. Thank you. Coming up, last week, donald trump was calling president obama ask Hillary Clinton, quote, the founders of isis. Today, trump will learn whats going on in the real world behind closed doors for the first classified intelligence briefing. As the republican nominee for president , he has a right to it and he has gotten it today. Plus, long time supporter Montel Williams is on tonight. A long time reporter. And back to our roundtable. A big shakeup at the top of the Trump Campaign. Theyre bringing in the bad guys. Finally, let me finish with those two 500meter race heres stopped to help each other. What an olympic moment that was. Im going to make this as simple as possible for you. You can go ahead and stick with that complicated credit card that limits where you earn bonus cash back. Or. You can get the quicksilver card from capital one. Quicksilver earns you unlimited 1. 5 cash back on every purchase, everywhere. I shouldnt have to ask. Whats in your wallet . 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This morning trump said he did not trust the Intelligence Community do you trust intelligence . Not so much from the people that have been doing it for our country. Look what has happened over the last ten years. Look what has happened over the years. It has been catastrophic. In fact, i wont use some of the people, just use them, use them. Very easy to use them. I wont use them because they made such bad decisions. You look at iraq, the middle east. A total powder keg. If we would have never touched it. We would have been much better off. Well, trumps democratic rival will be receiving a routine classified briefing as well. A Senior Adviser for the Trump Campaign and ron reagan is an msnbc contributor. What do you think about now that he has this information in his head somewhere. He cant use it directly. I think it will be extremely importantist to. When he becomes president , it will be great to have this information to be ready to step into the oval office on day one. So these briefings are very important for him. And i think they will continue to provide information that is necessary once hes president. So part of what your intelligence for me is that youre letting me know trump has won the election. I love this intel i didnt expect to get from you. Im their answer any questions. If your question is how will he use the information, the briefings as you know have been around from the 1950s. I understand. I think thats important to tell people. The reason they brief these candidates is not over they can tune up their message in the campaign. Should they win, they dont have to stop the start the second they get elected and start thinking about the big picture. Ron, what do you think will be the influence . Theres so much history here. Nixon always blamed the ivy league eheat for telling about the bay of pigs coming. He could may the hawk against nixon. There is such a history of these j briefings. Both sides will get them. I imagine they will be somewhat different in that Hillary Clinton with her vast experience in Foreign Policy will be asking fairly pointed questions. Donald trump, who doesnt know anything about anything, Foreign Policywise, will be getting caught up to speed in some general way about our intelligence capabilities. But there are concerns about donald trump and they have been voiced already, getting an intelligence briefing. Many of the people in his campaign have deep connections to russia and pro russian ukrainians. Oh, yes, they do. Are you going to deny Paul Manafort working for the russians . Are you going to deny why doesnt he these concerns. Are you going to he releases his tax returns. What do we know, boris, about the relationship between Paul Manafort and the russian republic and the party in the ukraine . We know that it is a lot of conjecture on the part of New York Times and the ap. Tony pod dloeft who has taken millions of dollars, from the largest russian steered will by Paul Manafort. And now let me finish. You get to interrupt if you, Hillary Clinton is the one that should have been fired as secretary of state according to director combey. So she is the one who broke rules, laws and regulations. Did he say she should be fired . Did he say she should be fired . He said that she yes, he did. She should have been disciplined administratively and in terms of her job. Which means she should have been fired. He didnt say that. Youre denying here now that were getting to. This boris, youre denying that mania fort worked for the party over he. Hold on. Paul manafort is well known to be a Campaign Manager for parties outside the United States of america. What i am denying is the conjecture that has been in the New York Times. Im not here to talk about him. Im here the talk about donald trump. He is the cheryl of the trump campaign. He is relevant. Hes the chairman. So Paul Manafort has worked in both the u. S. And abroad. Thats very well known. The discussions weve had with donald trump. And ill start with you. Im sure well quickly get to worse. Donald trump doesnt understand certain things weve all grown up with. I think he has a great education in business. He doesnt know what deternls is. Your dad hated it. It has been the doctrine of margaret half thor going back to trumanan. Weve understood this. Bits first strike. Trump didnt seem to know that. When i asked about Nuclear Weapons in europe, i said conroll them out in europe . He said why do we have them . And he did the same thing with generals. He doesnt seem to understand basic knowledge, we have them not to use them. He doesnt understand all sorts of things. I have to say and i dont mean to detrail conversation in any way. I find it alarming and kind of december gusting that were talking about donald trump as in some way a legitimate political candidate for the presidency of the United States. But he is legitimate. Legitimate in terms of getting

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