Permission to not just violate i mean, i have that ethic, you have to go to ethics briefings as white house staffers twice a year. Ive been there six years. I think i went 12 times. She was just sworn in. She had to have just been briefed on the ethics, it is a clear violation. Do you think loyalty includes, go ahead, break the law, kellyanne . Not at all. Im more based on my reporting explaining the culture that i think enables this kind of thing to happen. You have, for example, the sons who have been running the most of the trump organization. Theyre still participating in White House Events like you had the nomination ceremony for judge gorsuch, his sons were there. And you have Kellyanne Conway, a counsel to the president , a confidant to the president talking about ivanka trumps brand. There are questions being raised right now on capitol hill where i am about what is the White House Counsels Office doing to make sure these senior officials at the white house, even if theyre warmly received by trump for these kind of comments, are doing the right thing by the law, by the ethics code, and thats why you have Jason Chaffetz, the oversight chairman of the house and others raising serious questions about this kind of conduct. Jeremy, back to you. You spent a lot of time on the hill. Do you think there will be some sort of buy part san demand for an ethics investigation . I dont know if it will come up with this thing honestly, nicole. Just to defend her for one moment, she didnt do this in a way that i think was had knowledge and a forethought that she was trying to do something unethical. She blurted out something. But it points to a jeremy, let me stop you right there. When a woman tells another woman to go out and buy clothes, she is spreading the word. Thats how kind of how business is done. Thats kind of i dont think she was trying to violate the ethics rules. You dont think she was trying to get people to go out and buy ivanka trumps clothes for a family that doesnt ingratiate itself with ethics . There is a broader problem, there is not a lot of trust built up on ethics around this team. That is going to trigger a lot of congressional scrutiny. This one instant isnt going to cause a fire storm, but i think it could be a small spark that could ignite a bigger problem. Eugene, if this is the small spark, what is the straw, to mix metaphors here, its after 11 00, thats what happens to me. What is the straw that breaks the camels back on this . You can break your pit fall. There is the hotel down the street from the white house where donald trump is currently both tenant and landlord. And you know, there is a clause in the lease that says public official cant be the lessor. There are a million of these things. I think its face nating, though, that Jason Chaffetz signed onto that letter. Yeah. And i think, and maybe im reading too much to into it, but i think he saw this as a Good Opportunity to sort of put down a marker and say, we actually are going to have to Pay Attention to this stuff. And he starts with Kellyanne Conway, not with a not specifically with a member of the family. Not with jared kushner, not with ivanka herself. Lawrence, you just mentioned congressman chaffetz. I think we have some sound from the town hall he had tonight and this came up. [ do your job ] hold on, when Kellyanne Conway said what she said about buying that particular product, that was wrong, wrong, wrong. I called it out. They need to investigate it, what Kellyanne Conway was wrong, it should never happen again and there should be some accountability there. Eugene, i just called you my first tv husband by the wrong name. I am deeply sorry. But, eugene, what is the cross pressure with republicans on the hill on the ethics front . Republicans we suffered so many losses as a party for getting branded with all the scandals and all the resignations and all the lobbying, abramoff. Is there a fear of this sort of ethics problem hanging over the partys brand . Yeah, theres a fear of that and there is also a fear of crossing President Trump, you know. And also angering constituents. So, its fascinating because republican congressmen these days have had two sets of anger constituents at home. The trump supporters, but also tons of progressives and others who have been coming to their town halls to sort of call them out and ask them where theyre standing on these sorts of issues. And, so, there are a lot of conflicting pressures on them. And i think this is pretty easy call, right . Right. There is a rule. You dont do this, and she clearly did it and i think they can just kind of draw a bright line here and then sort of take it from here. I have to agree with that. Thats where i took issue with jeremy, and im very careful to do that because of his connections. This is one of those things where this administration has danced around this line. Sean spicer has repeated that donald trump is not subject to any sort of rules when it comes to conflict of interest. We know thats not exactly true. A lot of people think they have danced on the line. And sean said today this was an attack by nordstrom on ivanka trump. It was no such thing. Nordstrom has never attacked anybody in its 117year history. This is now something someone can point to that we can all agree and the ethics counselors can agree and the white house can agree, this is actually wrong. When Jason Chaffetz and others are on the same side of this, you know that something has to be done. And thats why i think no one should let that opportunity go because this is, as eugene says, a bright line. Lets draw the line somewhere. Swe havent been able to find it. Its a bright line the president doesnt seem to mind. Stick with me, everybody. Up next amid all the other news President Trump is making, he also took a oh, im sorry, he also took on a u. S. Senator. Imagine that. Well explain when the 11th hour returns. No sir, no sir, some nincompoop stole all my wool sweaters, smart tv and gaming system. Luckily, the Geico Insurance agency recently helped baa baa with renters insurance. Everything stolen was replaced. And the hooligan who lives down the lane was caught selling the stolen goods online. Visit geico. Com and see how easy it is to switch and save on renters insurance. Why pause a spontaneous moment . Cialis for daily use treats ed and the urinary symptoms of bph. Tell your doctor about your medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. 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He misrepresented that just like he misrepresented judge gorsuch. Thank you all very much. There is a leader of the free world Going Nuclear on senator blumenthal for making comments about his Supreme Court nominee neil gorsuch. Blumenthal apologized sefrm ven years ago. Our panel is still with us. Bob costa is all over the Gorsuch Nomination effort. Tell us what youre hearing on the hill. I spoke at length today, nicole, to senator blumenthal and he said he was surprised by President Trumps comments because the white House Counsel don mcgann was in the room with judge gorsuch during the meeting with the senator. A former senator out of new hampshire. Gorsuchs spokesperson confirmed the comments and blumenthal said he just finds it odd that the president , in his words, is not communicating perhaps with his staff. You real have i a war of words between the capital and pennsylvania avenue. The one thing that i picked up today in my reporting is that gorsuch may have helped himself with some of these comments. Whether it was a strategy or not from the white house, democrats were interested in his flash of judicial independence, but chuck schumer, the minority leader and others are still going to press for more questions and more examples of him showcasing that independence. So, bob, to your point, let me put up on the screen real quick all the people that can corroborate what gorsuch did say about those comments. It is as you said, senator blumenthal, republican senator ben sas se, chuck schumer, kelly ayotte shepherding the communication, and the only person who said that he didnt say that is the leader of the free world. What kind of you know, wink and a nod do senators think that theyre getting from the white house . Do they think theyre being played or do they think this is just trump being trump . The thinking in actuality is gorsuch being gorsuch. He is not entirely cozy with trump, even though he is the Supreme Court nominee and he has his own views about the role of the judiciary and hes not trying to play to trump at all. In fact, they were not real sure the white house privately is telling me, in essence, that gorsuch said what he said in these meetings and theyre not going to counter what gorsuch said because hes so firm in his views, even if the president thinks that these views are being misrepresented, it is what gorsuch said. Yeugene, i want to play something for you. You and i lived some of these moments. I want to travel down memory lane with you. Watch. I have a judge who is a hater of donald trump, a hater. Hes a hater. His name is gonzalo curiel. And he is not doing the right thing. He knows hes unfair. This judge is of mexican heritage. Im building a wall. In you are saying he cant do his job because of his race, is that not the definition of racism . I dont think so at all. Sometimes you pick a judge. Doesnt workout. Thats happened. Numerous of them over the last 25 years, thats happened. The last thing you want are judges put on the United StatesSupreme Court that are going to destroy our nation. If you are a good student in high school or a bad student in high school, you can understand this. Eugene, donald trump and judges, complicated history there. That was a compilation of all of the things he said about judges. And i think his sister is a sitting judge, or retired judge. Yeah. So, one in the family. What do you think is going on . I have no idea except that if you hit donald trump, he hits you back. And he perceives any sort of adverse decision or opinion or dirty look as an assault on him personally and thats the way he is. And i just you know, are there people still out there i hope not, but are there people out there who think think that at some point President Trump is going to begin acting president ial . Lets talk to jeremy bash who for the sake of americas Intelligence Agency hopes so. Jeremy, what do you think . Look, i thought one very interesting aspect of the 9th circuits opinion tonight, nicole, they went out of their wear to cite these cases that say that the president s authority in National Security affairs is not limitless, and that judges, the judiciary, can review what the president does. Now, ordinarily in a case involving a temporary restraining order, you dont have to get into knees grand issues of executive power. But i think this was a warning shot from three federal judges tonight that said that if the president tries to do this over and over again, invoking National Security to do what he wants, theyre going to call him on it and they reasserted the power of the judiciary over the executive. And thats relevant for the coming nomination of judge gorsuch. All right. Were going to fit in another break. The 11th hour will be right back after this. This is humira. 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Were going to ask jeremy bash to weigh in on reports from reuters about Donald Trumps first phone call with russian president Vladimir Putin. He didnt seema we aware of whae start treaty is. Thats all right with me. If youre the president of the United States, you should probably know what that is. Jeremy, explain that to our viewers. Its actually the new start treaty, see see. Signed by president obama in 2010. We have many more Nuclear Weapons than we need to for any possible military objectives. The reason why we dont just reduce our Nuclear Weapons is because we want to maintain parity with the russians. If our stockpile gets out of whack with theirs, they could have leverage over us. So, its in our interest to jointly reduce our stockpiles together with the russians. Almost every president has done it. Ronald reagan did