His team were communicating behind the scenes with friends to refute that claim, according to Text Messages obtained by nbc news. Those texts sent between two of kavanaughs friends suggested the nominee himself was personally talking with former classmates about ramirezs story in advance of the new yorker that made the article public. Julie swetnick is speaking out in an interview with nbc news. Michael avenatti released a sworn declaration which alleged in graphic detail that she, quote, witnessed efforts by Brett Kavanaugh and others to cause girls to become inebriated and disoriented so they could then be gang raped. Heres what swetnick said about kavanaughs alleged behavior and high School Parties on nbc nightly news tonight. Can you describe to me what you saw him do . He was very aggressive, very sloppy drunk, very mean drunk. I saw him go up to girls and paw on them, try to, you know, get a little too handsy, touching them in private parts. I saw him try to shift clothing. Other people . Yes there are people that know about those parties. Kavanaugh has vehemently denied swetnicks allegations saying he doesnt even know who she is. And nbc news has not been able to independently corroborate her claims. While avenatti provided the names of four people he said could confirm her account, one is dead, another says he does not remember Julie Swetnick at all and the others have not responded to nbc news. Meanwhile after attempting to limit the fbis ability to conduct a full Background Investigation on kavanaugh, the president is backing down and allowing the fbi to do its job. Thats good news. The fbi was the first to report that. The the white house has authorized the fbi to expand its abbreviated investigation into Sexual Misconduct allegations against judge kavanaugh. As long as the review is finished by the end of the week. They tied the investigators hands. They could speak to, believe it or not, four witnesses. Thats all they were allow today talk to. Among them was mark judge who was today interviewed by the fbi. Heidi przybyla who broke that latest story kavanaugh and ramirez nbc news, and jeff bennett, White House Reporter for nbc nightly news. Thank you all. Congratulations on breaking this story. I was looking at it and thinking this is tampering with witnesses, going around finding people that were going to be interviewed. Judge kavanaugh said he didnt know about this allegation until he read about it in the new yorker. Your reporting was it was around before the new yorker trying to kill witnesses basically. Right. Part of my reporting was i went back and looked at his testimony when senator hatch asked him when did you find out about these allegations. He said in the new yorker story. According to these Text Messages we obtained between two friends in this tight Yale University circle, brett as hes referred to as well as bretts guy and bretts team were very much behind the scenes trying to control the narrative in advance. What were they doing . Number one, they were trying to get a photo of Debbie Ramirez and Brett Kavanaugh at a wedding ten years later showing them together smiling. Secondly, one of the women was being pursued by, quote, brett to go public and refute Debbie Ramirez. The white house is not responding, chris, but bob bauer, who is someone who has run these types of confirmations before told us it is highly i am prudent for someone in Brett Kavanaughs position to be a Supreme Court nominee and also with the allegations the democratic lawyer. Yes. For these allegations being so severe that he would be trying to do anything, that that would be very unwise of him to be trying to do that behind the scenes. The second important thing, chris, i think all of us need to take a look at which is actually lower down in the story is really compelling, is that one of the former classmates said when she went to that wedding, she noticed something very odd about Debbie Ramirez, that she was really uncomfortable and she was avoiding brett and his friends at all costs, which was really odd since they were supposed to be friends in a tight circle. You can imagine trying to avoid him if that happened ten years before. Nbc reports kafrm gnaw and his team try to refute ramirezs claim before it came public. He told the Senate Judiciary committee he first learned about it in the article in the new yorker. Lets watch. When did you first hear of miss ramirezs allegations against you . In the last in the period since then, the new yorker story. Well, there he is saying something that may have covered his tracks because he didnt want to admit he was out there scurrying around getting people to say nice things about him, refute this story that was coming. He knew ramirez was about to make the allegation about what he did with his private parts in her face, the whole thing. And yet he denied knowing about it. Why would he do that, glenn . You know, because he didnt want under oath. He didnt want to be caught sort of knowing something he shouldnt know in advance of that story breaking, but heidi said people have said that its high highly imprudent for somebody in his situation to reach out and communicate with witnesses. It is beyond that. It is downright reckless. Every attorney will tell his client do not communicate with witnesses regardless of whether your intentions are pure. Because if you Say Something to a witness like, remember, i didnt do anything to you. Well, how is that going to be perceived . It is always a danger zone. I wont call it witness tampering yet because well have to determine if judge kavanaugh had was trying to corruptly persuade the witness to change her story, withhold her story, or otherwise i think he was accused about that with his secretary, being alone in the room with monica lewinsky. Trump lifted the restrictions on the fbi. He claimed he was merely following the wishes the senate. After questioning the president was forced to admit only he has the authority to set the limits of the investigation. What i said is let the senate decide whatever they want to do is okay with me. And also the fbi. My white house will do whatever the senators want. Im open to whatever they want. Im guided by the senate. I want to make the senate happy because ultimately theyre making the judgment. Im not making the judgment. Ive already made my judgment. Its up to you to instruct the fbi it is up to me. I am instructing them as per what i feel the senate wants. Trump is also questioned about who they should or should not be allow today interview. For clarity, will you instruct the White House Counsel Don Mcgahn to give the fbi free rein to interview whomever they feel is necessary . I have so instructed him and i did it again over the weekend. Just to be clear, should the fbi interview all three of Brett Kavanaughs accusers . It wouldnt bother me at all. I think the fbi should interview anybody that they want within reason. Should Brett Kavanaugh be interviewed by the fbi . I think so. I think its fine if they do. I dont know. Thats up to them. Jeff, sometimes i think interaction with the media is helpful to the republic and i think this is a case where he was prodded to give them full license to do the job which he apparently told them not to do before. I have to give anyone i know thats been talking about this all weekend, is this going to be a real fbi investigation or some cover up operation, some quickie job just to say they got it done, talk to three or four people . Apparently is it started off with he told them, just talk to four people. What a joke. The white house says they were taking their direction from the senate because the senate said we want to interview all of the current and credible accusers. So in the view of the white house, Julie Swetnick was not viewed as being credible. So only dr. Ford and Deborah Ramirez were the two allegations that were the fbi was allowed lets talk common sense. Its a Job Interview. This is what they kept saying during the interview. All the republicans kept saying, this is not an investigation, this is a Job Interview. If its a Job Interview and you hear the guy is a problem drunk, hes belligerent, mean drunk, wouldnt you want to check it out beyond the two case s . Wouldnt you like to expand your vision for people to hang out with him, drinking buddies, like this guy dan ludington . Hes already talking. Thats the whole problem, chris. The republicans are saying theres no corroboration. But lets not talk to the people who could provide corroboration, like christine ber tram who is the woman or kerry ber tram, the woman i talked to today who didnt want to come forward and who has been trying, this is her third attempt to try to get through to the fbi to get the fbi to talk to her to say, look, i have these Text Messages. Ive got this memo. You need to talk to me. Earlier before we came on air saying, they told her to talk to a field office and the field office saying, oh, were not actually the right people for you to talk to for that. On the one hand the president is saying theyre expanding the investigation but are they going to talk to people like kerry ber tram . Heres a familiar name, another expert in the New York Times oped former director james comey said the fbi is capable of rooting out inconsistencies in kavanaughs story. Quote, this is comey, they will confront people with testimony. And other accounts testing them, testing them in a professional way. Agents have better nonsense detectors than partisans because they arent starting with a conclusion. They also know little lies point too bigger lies. Obvious lies by the nominee about the meaning of words in a year book are a flashing signal to dig deeper. Glenn, expand. Unfortunately this is an artificial exercise because if you interview one person as an fbi agent, then thats going to lead you to two or three or four other people youre going to need to interview, not to mention youre going to need to get text message ands emails and information to corroborate what each of these people tell you. In order to cram this down the throats of the American People in one week or less really kind of shows it to be, i hate to say, the rigged set up that it is. When you write a book, i read a couple books, one by jack kennedy. He said the reason people read biographies, the simple question, what was he like . We were all want to know what somebody is like. The only answer to that and go to a close friend, somebody closer to him than me. Another guy is closer. Another guy knew him a different way. Thats how you find out what a guy is like, whether hes a drunk or not. Republic cabs hold up the threeday threshold it took the fbi to investigate the claims made during the anita hill case and say why cant this be done in three days . They really are trying to keep this entire thing relegate today one week because time has never been on the side of this kavanaugh confirmation process. Weve already blown through the october 1st deadline for a Supreme Court. They definitely want to have it done before the mid terms. Public polling shows the longer this keeps going more oppose his nomination than support it. That is what is driving this fast tracking to get him on the court. Let me ask you about your reporting tonight, heidi. He was the judge, judge kavanaugh was calling up people making sure they were about to say the right stuff when this ramirez case broke well ahead of the article. He went, is that jury tampering . What is that . Im not a legal it seems hes tampering with what people would say spontaneously. Jury tampering, it all goes back to weve heard so much over the last year and a half about corrupt intent. You have to look into the mind of the person who is contacting witnesses and say its an attempt to save his butt. That would be corrupt if thats the purpose. How you read these comments . This is but one stream of Text Messages weve obtained. And the question now is the fbi actually going to contact all of these other individuals who are in this tight knit circle, these Close Friends of Brett Kavanaugh to see what was going on in the run up to this investigation or into this story coming out. And what more there is about kavanaughs role and trying to control the narrative and what may have also even been inadvertently admit today or leaked in those texts. Is the fbi going to look at that. Im curious how things got developed the petition put together by the people, 60 some names 65 women. Who does all that orchestration . Id say it happened organically over a period of days. It was not orchestrated by the kavanaugh team, that it was kavanaughs friends, 65 of whom from high school. I cant recall 65 people i went to high school with, but apparently they have a close knit group. I knew guys like that at school. When you want to run for student council, vicepresident , some of the guys got together and thought i should run no, they didnt. Nobody got together. You wanted to run. This guy wanted to protect himself. It areppears to be that way. 60 republicans, jeff flake and democratic senator chris coons says kavanaugh should not be confirmed if the fbi finds he lied in his testimony. If judge kavanaugh is shown to have lied to the committee, nomination is over . Oh, yes. I would think so. Oh, yes. Sifrl several of kavanaughs classmates have stepped forward at the very least kavanaugh misled the committee about his drinking. As one yale said luding ton when he got drunk he was often belligerent and aggressive, according to luding tons account, quote, i witnessed him respond to a semi hostile remark by throwing his beer in the mans face and starting a fight that ended with one of our mutual friends in jail. However, heres what President Trump said when asked about, well, today whether hell put kavanaughs nomination forward if hes found to have lied about the drinking. There are now concerns that he may have lied or mischaracterized his drinking while testifying. If they find that he did, do you think that bars him from being your Supreme Court nominee . Well, ive i watched him. I was surprised at how vocal he was about the fact that he likes beer. This is not a man that said alcohol was that he was perfect with respect to alcohol. So if he did lie about his drinking, does that mean youll pull i dont think he did. Luding ton, the guy that went to yale with him, last question here, said he drank so much he couldnt possibly remember what hes done. And therefore, he cant credibly deny what he is accused of doing by dr. Ford because he wouldnt remember it. And in this day and age, with so much outrageous conduct by our high officials, some of them, you know, were always looking for the next smoking gun. Can we prove what he did to dr. Ford . Can we prove what he did to miss ramirez, what about swetnick when his unsuitability to be Supreme Court justice is hiding in plain sight, we all watched him during those confirmation hearings be disrespectful, combative, left wing conspiracy threw the clintons in every time hes accused of something, didnt you ever do it . He did it to Amy Klobuchar. Thats the next wave, thoor going to point to his lack of neutrality and temperament that should disqualify him. What goes around comes around. Well, get even like clarence. This still lies in the hands the president said something accurate today. Its up to the senate. Thats a fact. In the end of this week, mr. Mcconnell pulls a quick one on friday afternoon, were going to vote the minute we get this report, cant read it fast enough, i think in the end its going to be up to flake. He and the president is not as close to the president of north korea. Thank you, heidi, jeff. The scope of the kavanaugh investigations, republicans are threatening to investigate their own democratic colleagues and President Trump is threatening to accuse the senator who he said has been in compromising situations. Look at the way he intimidates people. This is Street Corner stuff. Not surprising. Its only monday. What will the investigation into the parties mean for the mid terms . Who stands to win from this whole contested mess . Saturday night live was back this weekend and it came back well. And weighed in. You put this spring cord now. Dont vote. No discussion. You give him a probe and you let him do whatever the hell he wants. So, am i angry . Youre dam right. 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