Coronavirus treatment. This is something thats already been administered to about 70,000 americans and as the Washington Post points out, quote, many scientists and physicians believe that convalescent plasma might provide some benefit but far from a breakthrough. Its rich in antibodies to be effective in fighting the coronavirus but the evidence is not conclusive on whether it works, when to administer and what dose is needed. The president praised Co Commissioner steven hann accusing the deep state in hopes they wouldnt be ready in time for the election. Steven, thank you because the fda stepped up over the last few days in getting this done. The results have been incredible. What a difference a day makes. The Washington Post also reports that quote, the announcement comes as trump has put extraordinary pressure on federal agencies to test and improve treatments and especially a vaccine against the Novel Coronavirus which has already killed more than 170,000 americans and here is the key line, quote, the president s political advisors believe having a vaccine by election day is key to his prospects for winning. With that id like to welcome in my panel White House Correspondent and msnbc political contributor and with us, white house burro chief at the Washington Post and msnbc political analyst Phillip Rucker and Health Policy advisor and msnbc senior medical contributor dr. Ezekiel emanuel. Thank youall for being on board tonight and dr. Emanuel, let me start with you and give you the first word. What did we see unfold today and is this the kind of i dont want to say that the president sold this as a miracle treatment but he certainly sold this as a big breakthrough. Is that what it actually is . No, about six weeks ago, there was an article published, randomized trial of a small number of people that said no advantage in terms of mortality, no advantage in other ways. Then you had this big study of 35,000 people but it wasnt a randomized study and they looked at people who had received the convalescent serum three days after the diagnosis versus four or five days later. They noticed more mortality. Those people are different. People you dont treat up to after four days are different from people you treat right away and that may account for this difference. Its a large number but you cant make heads or tails out of this data and all the scientists ive talked to and when i look at the data, you know, it is suggestive but hardly a breakthrough and hardly evidence you could not get this approved normally because its not ram comized and patient selection. Who got the early treatment versus late can account for all the difference you see in the mortality data. So this is a im a little worried that the fda buckled under this and that is making me more nervous rather than less nervous that the political pressure might make them approve a vaccine that is not quite there yet. Well, let me pick up on that point when you say the fda buckled under this. The New York Times reported as the fda was getting ready to issue this emergency authorization, a group of top federal officials including dr. Francis collins and dr. Fauci intervened arguing the data was too weak. So what youre saying essentially is that these Health Officials pushed back and the fda is giving in . Well, thats what it appears, right . You have the chief scientist of the United States who are used to evaluating Clinical Trials saying this isnt data thats good enough because it isnt m randomized. We should not approve it. Then you have the president going after the fda because it sounded like internally the fda was agreeing with dr. Foe dhauc collins and after a barrage of tweets, you have this approval of the emergency youth authorization for the convalescent plasma. It doesnt reassure you science is driving this but there is a combination of science and political pressure that makes the ultimate decision. Thats very nerve wracking because you worry that were approving drugs and interventions and therapeutics and a vaccine that arent effective because of political pressure and because the president thinks he has to have this for any chance at reelection. Well, lets pick up on that point Phillip Rucker. Its clear to me in conversations with republicans behind the scenes over the last several weeks that they certainly think that the only open for President Trump getting reelected is to get a vaccine before november and dr. Emanuel raises a good point. This is going to be something if it is announced there is a vaccine, obviously millions of americans will get it but if its not safe, if we dont take the proper precautions, the risks are enormous because of how wide spread its use is likely to be. So whats the thinking behind the scenes at the white house on this . I mean, do they feel like they need to convince americans there is going to be a vaccine around the time of election day to actually pull this off . Whats your reporting say . Yeah, kasie, my reporting is very much in line with yours. The single most important thing for President Trump right now in his mind is winning reelection on november 3rd and so he is using every lever of executive power he can, every tool at his tool box to be able to create an environment thats more politically favorable for him. He knows the polling shows that the American People do not overall approve of his handling of the coronavirus and management of the pandemic and there is a belief that the president has but its shared by many of his political advisors and white house aids that the way to turn that around is to have a vaccine or at least create the belief among the American People that a vaccine is very near. Its why youve heard the president talk so optimistically about a vaccine to the point of quote happy talk, according to some people who are critical of this approach and i anticipate in the weeks to come well see more announcements like the one tonight where the president is trying to categorize these increate mental steps as historical breakthrough. Well, we have some recent nbc news polling showing americans are potentially skeptical of a v vaccine. 44 said yes, 22 no, 32 said they werent sure. There is a lot of risk here and lets not forget of course, this plays into a broader conversation about vaccines. There have been an increasingly large groups of people that are skeptical of getting vaccines for other standard diseases like measles, standard vaccinations for diseases like measles, mumps and roue bella. What is the risk if this goes the wrong way, we could have remr repercussions that go well beyond this pandemic . First of all, were in a health care and a fear election time. People are thinking about how scared they are of this virus, and people are also thinking about whether or not they have an administration they can trust. So yes, its true that for years and years and years ive interviewed people that are against vaccines, that dont believe in vaccines and that is an entire issue in and of itself in this country. You layer that with people that are worried that President Trump is trying to rush something out to get reelected. The president hat first waat fi the pandemic in theer rearview mirror, he switched gears, pivoted and said now i have to deal with this in the most boycerous way possible and make sure people understand im trying my best. When you think about it that way, there are americans that saw the president float the idea we should use infekct tanents t treat the virus. There are more people affected more than other groups and they are worried, base on my reporting in southeast washington d. C. , they are worried that this vaccine could be pushed out to those vulnerable populations and almost tested on them and thats not something that would be a Conspiracy Theory because we know in this country African American haves been the subjects of medical tests against their will. There is a lot of skepticism because the president has not been in a lot of times based in reality and facts in his approach to the virus and as a result, you have people that are very scared. On top of that, its an unprecedented virus. People are worried the first bach of the virus might not catch everything. But its a big problem that people dont have confidence in the science thats going behind this virus and going behind this vaccine. Lets broaden this conversation out a little bit. Dr. Rob emanuel, were headed to the Convention Week where this president will have a bigger audience because there are outlets reporting that he could potentially speak every single night of the convention. What do you think he needs to tell the American People about coronavirus or not . Are you most concerned about in terms of how he uses that platform on this issue. Well, hes been everywhere, you know, minimizing the virus, sort of denying you should wear face masks and deny we need to take special precautions and reversing himself. Its hard to know which donald trump well see. We should also note the irony of course that donald trump wants a vaccine very desperately because early in his administration, hes a vaccine skeptic. Floating ideas that maybe it was linked to autism, which is widely disproven but now in desperation because its his last gasp, hes really pushing hard on this one outlet and i think youre going to see him, you know, promote various aspects of the, you know, response hes done to try to make it look good but most americans are actually onto the fact that he is not handled this well even republican governors have admitted hes not handled it well like larry hogan of maryland. I think its going to be a hard persuasion to make for the American Public because he just hasnt responded in the consistent way and it would be a change for him to actually be consistent and stay on message four straight days. Phil, i know youve been talking to your sources throughout this. What are you expecting from the Republican Convention next week . Are you looking out for . What are going to be your met c metrics to see if theyve done the job you want them to . These four days will showcase the Republican Party entirely in trumps image. There are a number of speakers with the name trump, just members of his family in addition to that members of his white house staff are going to be speaking. That is unusual. The sitting secretary of state mike pompeo will be speaking also unusual. So its very much going to be the trump show and i think there is going to be an effort according to my reporting to present a more optimistic take. They have to confront that in some meaningful way and i think there is going to be a real deliberate effort to shift the narrative while at the same time harping about a lot of the president s grievances, as well as stoking some cultural wars that have been inflamed over the last several months talking about cancel culture as the republicans put it and try to demonize skbr izize joe biden a with trump appearing to the convention. To phils point, we do have a lot of family members, a lot of Administration Officials not very many, you know, i was looking at the list and in someways there are more main stream republicans quote unquote main stream republicans at joe bidens convention than there perhaps will be at the Republican National convention. I mean, there are a lot of people missing from this list. What does that tell you about what were going to see this week . What that tells us is President Trump like 2016 is still having to rely on his selfmostly in ordinary tore make the message and case hes the person that is best able and should be the person to lead us through the pandemic in 2021 and 2022 and beyond. The president has said over and over again that he was someone who didnt have a lot of people, sure jsure ra jets he can win t election alone. In someways that could work in his favor. He ran as an outsider and could drain the swap of course there were a lot of people that say he didnt do just that but he ran in this idea he was going to be completely different than the republicans that came before him. In someways, that could work in his favor to say look, the entire main stream of politics is going for joe biden, here is why the people that really believe in me believe in me. Ill say in my reporting, the republicans are going to be going through this emotional argument. Democrats made it their side when they brought peoples parents deported by President Trump, gun violence victims, the young boy who was working on his stuttering with the help of joe biden. Republicans are going to do that and try to do it by stoking these culture wars as phil said. It will be talking about people who were victims of undocumented immigrants and crimes committed by them. It will be people talking about that couple from st. Louis that pointed guns at the Peaceful Protesters, black lives matter protesters saying our streets are over run by an anarchists. Its a little bit of a flip to a darker side of what the democrats were doing but thats what they will try to do. Of course, aids say they will trying to be hopeful and more upbeat but we know this president isnt someone who flourishes upbeat. Hes the total carnage president. Hes someone who is american carnage president who likes to square people and talk about the dangers. 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Madam chairwoman, great to have you on the program tonight. Lets start with your hearing scheduled for tomorrow. You saw the post master general go before a friendlier audience on friday in the senate. What is your number one question for him when he sits down before you tomorrow . Well, my number one question is why did he make these changes in the first place . Hes been on the job for 67 days and already the internal report that we got from the post office showed that its a very terrible performan performance. Delivery is down, first class mail is under 8 . Id like to understand it and senator peterson asked questions about it. He did not talk about this performance measure the or report that we came to literally yesterday and we distributed it to every member of congress but it gives a devastating report card on his work. Hes been there about the delivery mail down and his actions is there. Are you hearing from your constituents across the country he has actually stopped taking these actions or to your knowledge, is it still continuing across the country . Its stopped but hes done incredible damage removing post boxes of dismantling sorting machines that run up the speed of the sorting of mail and throwing them into dumpsters, all kinds of activities, limiting the number of trucks that can leave a plant and deliver mail. Why in the world would he want to slow down the mail . He says its to save money but you dont take these types of drastic damaging actions right in t