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MSNBCW Meet The Press November 2, 2020

The president seeking reelection during the worst covid outbreak yet. Its killing me inside. Im kind of im broken. Im broken. And my colleagues are broken. With cases now approaching 100,000 a day. No matter how you look at it, its not good news. Plus, our final nbc news wall street journal poll just out on where the race stands with 48 hours to go. This morning, well get reports from our four battleground states that could decide who wins this election, from two experts on how safe your vote is, and on the chance the election could be decided by lawsuits, and from our pollsters on latest numbers and whether we could see another electionnight shocker. Joining me for insight and analysis are nbc News White House correspondent kristen welker, nbc news capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt, rich lowry, editor of National Review and former democratic senator of missouri, claire mccaskill. Welcome to sunday and a special election edition of meet the press. Announcer from nbc news headquarters in new york, the longest running show in television history, this is a special edition of meet the press with chuck todd. Well, good sunday morning from our election headquarters right here at Rockefeller Center in new york city. We are just two days before the strangest president ial election in our lifetimes, fought amid the deadliest pandemic in a century will finally come to an end or will it . Yes, on tuesday, millions will go to the polls to either reelect President Trump or make him a oneterm president in favor of joe biden. Not only do we not know who is going to win, but because nearly 92 Million People, so far a record have already voted and some battleground states count votes very slowly and late, we dont know when were going to know whos going to win. But heres what we do know. Our final nbc news wall street journal poll completed overnight shows joe biden leading President Trump by ten points among registered voters, 52 42 . That tenpoint spread, thats the biggest for any president ial candidate in our poll at this late stage since bill clintons reelection in 1996. And for those of you with dreams or nightmares about a 2016 repeat, it is worth noting that our last poll four years ago showed Hillary Clinton with a shrinking fourpoint lead. It was 44 40 on this morning four years ago. That was down from a tenpoint lead, and more importantly, clintons 44 number left a whole lot of undecideds in a campaign where far fewer early votes had been banked. And remember, all of this is happening amid a coronavirus pandemic that has resulted in the u. S. In more than 9 million cases. It has taken 232,000 lives and counting so far. And not only is it not roundtable rounding the corner, it is at its highest peak yet. And with midwestern battleground states being hit particularly hard in this moment. Yesterday, President Trump, joe biden, and their running mates were all across the battleground, making their Closing Arguments. We win pennsylvania, we win it all. You know that, right . Here in michigan, where the right to vote is the most fundamental right. The road to victory goes right through the tar heel state florida is going to determine in every way who will be the next president. If biden wins, youre going to have a stock market collapse, the likes of which youve never had. He says he paid an income tax of 750. He knew how to game the system. Well, guess what, mr. President , im coming for you. Joe biden says were in for a long, dark winter. President trump said were going to distribute the vaccine, were going to defeat the virus. His Closing Argument this week is that the press and people are too focused on covid. Covid, covid, covid, hes complaining. Hes jealous of covids Media Coverage. [ crowd chanting ] youre right. Of that, youre right. You know, a lot of people call that treason, okay . Thats treason. See what happens. Everybody knows who donald trump is. Lets show them who we are this morning, were going to take a look at four battleground states, all of which President Trump won in 2016 and all of which hell likely have to win again if he wants to keep his job. Were going to begin with the mother of all battlegrounds, my home state of florida, where president ial elections often are decided already. More than 8 Million People have voted in florida and todays a big last day of early vote. In 2016, a total of 9. 4 Million People voted in the state. They may surpass that number today. Our latest nbc news marist poll out just days ago had joe biden with a narrow fourpoint lead in florida, which we know can disappear immediately. Ellison barber is standing by for us in miami. And it is miamidade, while not a swing county, it does seem to be the biggest battleground between the two campaigns. Reporter hey, chuck. Yeah, it is the last day of early voting here in florida. We have an airplane flying over us. And if the polls are right, it is going to be another nailbiter in this state. We are in miamidade county, on the western side of the county at a polling site in doral. Weve spoken to independent voters here who say they have voted for former Vice President joe biden. Weve spoken to hispanic voters who say they voted for president donald trump. You can see right over here, this is the voting line. Normally, it would be a lot longer, but its not that long right now, and that probably has a lot to do with the fact that over 60 of registered voters in miamidade have already cast their ballots. If President Trump is going to win this state, he needs to cut into bidens margin in democratic stronghold counties, counties like miamidade. His best hope for doing that is with the support of cuban and venezuelan american voters. Biden needs to get his supporters to the polls. Democrats are outpacing republicans when it comes to absentee ballots in the state of florida, but Florida Republicans are actually outpacing democrats when it comes to inperson, early voting. That was not the case in 2016. But today is souls to the polls, and democrats are hoping, praying, if you will, that it will help them shift those early voting numbers. Chuck . Ellison barber in miamidade for us, and its a reminder, nobody ever wins florida the same way twice. Up next, the bordering state of georgia, a state democrats have carried just once in the past nine president ial cycles but where both parties, particularly in this last week, believe its biden that has the slight edge right now going into election day. Nearly 4 million votes have been cast so far in georgia, comparing to 4 million votes cast all told four years ago. And the 538. Com polling average has biden up by just a moint point and a half, making georgia a true tossup state. Thats where we find blayne alexander, in atlanta. Really, it is about atlanta turnout and the atlanta suburbs. What can you tell us, blayne . Reporter chuck, just the fact that we are even talking about the state of georgia right now shows you just how much things have changed in this oncereliably red state. Consider this, President Trump won the state of georgia in 2016 by five points without making a single stop here once he became the partys official nominee. Well, now were seeing the president twice in the peach state in the final three weeks of this campaign, including a stop today. Now, on the democratic side, were seeing a stop from senator kamala harris. Also today. Tomorrow, former president barack obama will be in atlanta. All of this, of course, comes on the heels of joe bidens appearance here just last week. So, chuck, in addition to all of these Closing Arguments, though, we are going to be watching closely to see exactly how georgia actually handles this election. Remember, the last time we saw georgia head to the polls was during the june primary. Thats when we saw people waiting in line, outside, at times, in the rain for hours to cast their ballot. And many of the early voters that i spoke to this time around say that was a big reason that they came out early this time, that, coupled with Stacey Abrams narrow defeat for governor back in 2018. They say they want to make sure theres enough time to troubleshoot, as they say, to make sure if they come into issues with technology or long lines, they can work that out and have their vote count. Chuck, as if all that wasnt enough, this year, georgia has not one, but two u. S. Senate seats up for grabs, and democrats are hoping to flip them both. Chuck . Blayne alexander, ill tell you, if georgia does turn blue, i have somebody say it is not hype. Stacey abrams will deserve the credit there. Something to watch for tuesday night. Lets move up the Atlantic Coast and turn to North Carolina, which democrats have won just once since jimmy carter took it in 1976. At this point, more than 4 Million People have already voted in North Carolina. Its not far off from the 4. 7 million votes that were cast in total in the state four years ago. In fact, when all of todays totals are put in, its likely North Carolina will have already passed that total. Now, our last nbc news marist poll had biden leading President Trump by six points among likely voters. It was a big spread, but were seeing late here that a few other polls are finding similar results. Morgan radford is standing by in charlotte, North Carolina. Morgan, does joe biden have momentum here at the end . Reporter he absolutely has momentum, chuck. And to be clear, simply put, North Carolina is the state to watch. Theres not one, but two important races here that could shift the balance of power, not only here in the state, but also in the country. One, you have the president s race. North carolina is essentially a mustwin state, if President Trump wants to stay in the white house. Its a state that he won by less than four points, less than 200,000 votes back in 2016. But chuck, right now, he is slipping amongst support with the very people who put him there suburban voters, women voters, collegeeducated voters and those are exactly the voters who joe biden is going after right now, those who may, perhaps, be disillusioned with the president , and particularly, his handling of the coronavirus pandemic. But chuck, i have to tell you, there is probably no one who needs North Carolina more than senator chuck schumer. This is one of those critical swing states that the democrats are hoping to flip in their quest for those three states that could put them back in the balance of power. And right now, you have a vulnerable incumbent republican who is now being edged out in the polls by a democratic challenger. And chuck, this is now on track to be the most expensive u. S. Senate race in history. That is now surpassing the 2018 record held by florida. And all of this, chuck, were wondering is how is it going to affect the state of play in a state where already 4. 5 Million People have cast their ballots. And well have a lot of data on Election Night, but november 12th is the date to watch, because thanks to a latebreaking Supreme Court decision, that is the date by which all of these mailin ballots must be counted. Chuck . Well, in an extraordinarily close election, november 12th becomes then the second election deadline, if you will. Morgan radford in North Carolina, putting it well when it comes to the battle for the senate as well. Finally, its pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, one of the three blue wall states. Wisconsin and michigan are the other two. They all fell to mr. Trump in 2016, giving him the presidency. Well, the early vote in pennsylvania is 2. 3 million. That compares to 6. 17 million votes that were cast in total in 2016. Right now, pennsylvania appears to be the closest of the three rust belt states. The New York Times sienna poll out this morning has biden up six points, 49 43 . Its pretty consistent with other polls in the state, that four to sixpoint range. Maura barrett is joining us from williamsport, pennsylvania. Its really a part of the state that the president has to overperform in to overcome joe bidens lead. Maura, what have you got . Reporter well, chuck, pennsylvania still could be anyones game. In the seven months ive spent here, ive met farmers and manufacturing workers who want to support the president , even while acknowledging that his trade war hasnt helped them much. But suburban women are tired of trumps rhetoric, and black democratic voters are working to engage those in their communities that didnt show up back in 2016. And thats why we saw President Trump make four stops here yesterday, playing into his conservative, rural base. Republicans feel very confident about their 21 added Voter Registration advantage, but democrats still hold the overall lead in this state. Joe biden working to cut into President Trumps margins, especially in the suburbs, and hes been majorly outspending the president here in pennsylvania. Biden will be in philadelphia today, working to engage faith voters, while President Trump coming back to northeast pennsylvania tomorrow, in the final days ahead of election day. Chuck . Maura barrett in pennsylvania, where if were waiting for pennsylvania and waiting for that vote count to determine the presidency, some might argue, that means its already been a good night for donald trump. If joe biden wins, we may look back at three moments as key to his success. Theres, of course, congressman james clyburns endorsement that sent him on his way in South Carolina on super tuesday, wrapped up the nomination. There is President Trumps photo op at st. Johns church on june 1st and the president s disastrous performance in the first debate. All three were seismic polling shifts that became durable after the shift. Now, if the president wins, it will largely be because he has a dedicated and durable base that is large and wellpositioned enough to snag an Electoral College victory, even when mr. Trump loses the popular vote. Joining us are our two pollsters who have been up all night. Were not making that up. Crunching the numbers. Its republican pollster bill mcintyre. We told you the at the top, its ten points. But i want to focus on the virus here, because if there was movement in this poll it was over the virus, bill and jeff. Weve been tracking the most important issue in dealing with the virus and the economy in the intertwining. Do you focus more on the economy over the virus or virus over the economy . In midoctober, the economy had an eightpoint edge. The economy still has an eightpoint edge, but its now just three, bill. Is this the october surprise . Is the virus impact here at the end, particularly with independent voters, the october surprise . I dont think the numbers have changed that much, chuck. I dont think that among those numbers who say coronavirus is the most important issue, they are overwhelmingly voting for joe biden by almost 85 points. But among people who pick economy, theyre voting for trump by about 85 points. And youll see the coronavirus number didnt shift. But the question, if the coronavirus magically never happened, this would be a very different election with a very different economy and a very different structure for the incumbent president. Jeff horowitz, were reminded we learned a lot about National Polling versus battleground state polling. We have a tenpoint lead. In the battleground states, we have biden with a smaller sixpoint lead. The question a lot of people are going to simply ask can trump overcome that six points and win the Electoral College . Look, its going to be very hard. And its going to be very hard for a couple of reasons. One is, unlike 2016, this is really a referendum on donald trump. Weve had four years of the trump presidency. We know what it is like. Weve seen it. Weve lived through it. And for the first three years, we wondered what an unconventional president , how he would address a crisis not of his own making, and in the fourth year of his presidency, we know. And the verdict is not good when we have 40 who can approve of the job hes doing in handling covid19. And then the other thing is the numbers really have been stable in terms of the lead at ten points now. It was 11 at the debates. Theres been no movements to suggest donald trump is making grou ground. And the last point is joe biden. Joe bidens net positive. His personal ratings have improved over time, which was not the case in 16, while donald trump remains net negative. I want to bring up a couple other demographic splits here, bill. First, we have, among whites with College Degrees and whites without College Degrees. This has been a split weve been tracking for four years. You can see the split here. 21point edge for the president among whites without a college degree, a 15point edge for joe biden. But then lets go through the age groups here very quickly. Biden dominating among 18 to 34. Thats not surprising. The middle age groups are very tight with the president with a slight edge among 35 to 49 and 50 to 64, but its 65plus, bill, that is suddenly a 19point edge, which was a bit of a spike from some of our previous polling. Yeah. Look, theyre a volatile group. But i think the other thing to look at is whos not voting. Among the roughly, three out of ten people who say they have not voted yet, theyre voting for donald trump by almost 30 points. And the states that look at it youve foc

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