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MSNBCW Morning Joe August 28, 2014 10:00:00

Start to the Labor Day Travel weekend. Aaa expects it to be the busiest since the Great Recession. Plus, theres going to be a three day birthday tribute to Michael Jackson. Thats going to Michael Jackson will get under way in his boyhood home of gary, indiana. Family members including his mother katherine and his children are expected to attend that celebration. That is going to do it of thursdays edition of way too early. Morning joe starts right now. Haes good morning. Mike has been ordered around going back to parochial school. Trying to get him ready for school is like getting a village ready. Maggie is ready. You guys. A princess. I dont know where to start today. So much to talk about. When youre looking at the threat that isis proposes and its hard for americans who poses a threat and who doesnt, lets face it, they have been lied to a lot over the past decade but the wall street journal has this great article talking about the industry that isis is, an industry of extortion. They have hundreds of millions of dollars and very dangerous. Then the fallout yesterday from a story we first ran here yesterday morning on the tragic death of the gun range at the gun range. Bullets and burgers is actually what they call the tourist the tour that these people were taking yesterday. They shoot all sorts of weapons. This girl girl was from new jersey and they drove out from las vegas. The parents, we find out, are the ones that are videotaping this. I talked to so much friends, because i have so many friends being from the south that grew up in a culture of guns. Theres so many things that are wrong here. Even the most ardent Second Amendment right supporters saying this should have never happened. It is so shocking that it has been covered around the world. My father was in town last night and he watches the bbc and they covered it in depth because it raises so many questions ranging from parenting to why in the world would an 9yearold in this case would be handling a weapon like that . The gruesomeness of what happened. You hate to talk about the instructor who died tragically, but ive heard so many people that have worked at ranges saying he should have had his hands on the gun. Of course. There were so many things that went wrong here. And for the nuts, the absolute nuts to go online yesterday defending this is beyond me. I had a guy. Oh, no. I had a guy tweet, and i asked the question, why would we have a yearold girl shooting an uzi. And he showed a picture of somebody walking down a street in iraq carrying a separate hand and he said, this is why this is why i wanted to reply but my followers always told me dont feed the trolls. I wanted to reply, if we are depending on putting uzis in the hands of 9yearold girls to save american, we might as well put the islamic flag over the brooklyn bridge right now. The family says its fun for them. One could argue whether that should be, but, i mean, the reality was the instructor, she could barely hold the gun. I think you look at this poor girl and what is her life story from this moment on . And you can put aside all of the gun nuts and anything else of that, but you look at this. How is this little girl going to move forward . The thing is, i think there has to be a lot more regulation at these gun ranges. My argument has always been if you want to fire an automatic weapon, like a real not a semi. But if you want to fire these military style weapons, a gun range request proper training is actually the best place to do that. Ive always said, all of these people that want to have these massive weapons, militarystyle weapons in their home to protect from home invaders, thats crazy. People love firing these guns, thats great but fire them at gun ranges and have the gun ranges regulated so 9yearold girls from jersey cant come in and get an uzi and fire it. It is a real tragedy. But we will get to that later in the show. Yep. I want to get to the morning grind. Toppling the news this morning a Law Enforcement official tells nbc news it appears a second american has been killed while fighting for the militant group isis in syria. His identity has not yet been revealed but reports suggests he died in the same firefight as american doug mccain who joined ranks with the terror group after crossing the border from turkey. Lets get this right. Another american goes to syria and joins isis and how does that end up . Badly. They die. Its going to happen to you, okay . Just stay in minnesota, okay . Its not going to end up well for you. When you go over there, we are going to kill you, right . Dont join isis, okay . Go to disney land. By some accounts up to 100 u. S. Citizens are fighting along the lamic extremist. The mother of another u. S. Journalist being held hostage by isis is speaking out. Shirley sotloff made a plea to the leader of the Islamic State, the group that executed james foley. Since stevens capture ive learned a lot about islam. Ive learned that they teach that no individual should be held responsible for the sins of others. Steven has no control over the actions of the u. S. Government. Hes an innocent journalist. Ive always learned that you, the kaliff can grant amnesty. I ask you to please release my child. That was really compelling, mike barnicle. She put a challenge to this guy, basically, saying if youre so mighty and powerful, then you, islam teaches us, you have the power to show mercy to my son. Unfortunately, sadly, it will fall on deaf ears because we are dealing with people with an apock apocalyptic version of the future. I doubt they will pay any attention to this woman. We will see. They will pay for what they did to jim foley and they will find out as the days and weeks or months go by that they have pissed off the American People who are war weary and wanted to stay out of iraq. I think that moment is going to do more to show the nature of this groups evil and they will rule the day. Like i said before, we know how this story ends. Osama bin laden, bullet through his eyes. Saddam hussein head ripped clear off his shoulder. You could go through one terrorist after another terrorist. The most dangerous job in the world is being the number three world at al qaeda and this always ends this way. Mike, i know youre the only one here old enough to remember like me. Remember when noriega gives a speech and if americans come down to panama and has a sword and banging, they will die in the junglgles of panama now he is in jail and he is going to rot in jail this is how it always ends. We always get the enemy. We always get the thug. The vision of panama lasted about 45 minutes and noriega is in jail in florida and still in jail in florida. This is different. This is a hydra headed monster. We have been killing the number three person at al qaeda for 14 years. There is a always a new number three and there will be a new number one, two, and three of isis no matter what we do. The benefit we might gain from this is when Congress Comes back, they might be forced and the president might be forced to have a legitimate National Discussion about this. Guess what some they are going to come together. This is the danger. They have access to oil and they have access to extortion to hundreds of millions of dollars. They have the power. They have got money. They have the power to get their hands on some weapons that could kill a lot of people in the United States, kill a lot of people in london and kill a lot of people in paris and if we dont stop them and we dont take the territory away from them and seize their assets, we are all this is this is as grave of a threat as Osama Bin Laden in 2001. A texas father has been acquitted of murder. David barajas was acquitted of shooting a drunk driver that killed both of his sons in a wreck. The family was in tears in the courtroom moments after the jury found him not guilty. Bandas car slammed into barajas truck. He and his young sons were pushing it along the road to their nearby house. The prosecutor claimed barajas went home and got a gun and came back to the scene and shot banda in the head. In the end the jury acquitted barajas and he emerged to applause as he spoke to his family and media. How does it feel, david . A lot of weight lifted off my back. Ill still destroyed. Im missing my sons. Always and forever. Its been a lot of weight lifted, but im still hurt. Im still hurt. Very hurt. Listen. This story is heart breaking. It is so heart breaking. Maggie, im sorry, everybody on the jury and everybody in that courtroom and everybody in america knows who went home and got the gun and came back. Like they were looking for an excuse not to convict this father and none of us can put ourselves in the position where this father is and where he was that night after he saw his two sons killed. If it happened, a crime of passion. Thats what the prosecution said according to the reports that i read that the jury there was no actual physical evidence that linked him. There was no gun powder on his hands. I think the challenge is this is a crime of passion. The town, 50 , 60 , you go on the blogs this morning, i would have done the same thing. Thats what parents say. Unfortunately, the challenge is many people lose their family members, they dont go and take the law into their own hands and i think the challenge is how do we manage this and does it Say Something bigger about where we are with our Justice System that most people felt this was justice versus the system. You wonder if i would have done the same thing is perhaps what was part of the equation in the decision that was made because so many people chiming in, what would you have done . What would you have done . And they are saying i have no idea what i would have done. I know most people in line say they would have done the same thing. I think all of us in this situation feel like our lives came to an end. Yeah. I dont know in that moment what i would have done. You lose your mind. Removed from it all, mike, we are a nation of laws, not a nation of men. Thats what separates us from other countries. So if this man did this, if they had the evidence, then just letting him go revenge is understandable but its not a code of law. Yeah. He now lives with three losses. His two sons and the loss of something internally because if you kill another human being, that sits with you forever. He was acquitted. He was acquitted. I think that also the emotionalness of this trial, little boys were killed before christmas and they were buried with their toys that they were going to get. The entire town was really emotionally fighting. Let me get one more story in. Let me ask you this. In all of your years in working with news, did you ever have a fellow anchor or a news executive come up behind you, squeeze you and say, you know what . Dont lose toomp weig much weig. I like my children chubby. No. Its been keep losing weight, please. I cant lose enough. They are just heartless around here. Dresses arent going to fit. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand i was wondering where you were going with that. This is one of the most unbelievable i cant believe neanderthals. Kirsten gillibrand is making new rounds for her book and revealing comments she made. People magazine details some of the more uncomfortable moments of the book. For instance, while in the congressional gym, the mother of two says another male colleague told her, quote, good thing youre working out because you wouldnt want to get porky. You were working there, right . No. On separate occasion you cant put that one on me. After she lost 50 pounds, a member of the senate squeezed her stomach saying, dont lose too much weight now. I like my girls chubby. Who did that . Its madmen all over again. Maggie, its still madmen in a lot of places. Im sorry. Tv networks. A lot of friends that work at a lot of tv networks. Its crazy. Congress, crazy. I think its worse than ever because we live in a visual age. Our kids take pictures all of the time and they know how to pose and do all of these things. We are kind of caught in this middle ground between what sells, what people think sells, and what we are supposed to be which is real and normal. Mike and i go through when we walk down these halls. You could see what happens to me in central park. Bill called you yesterday and told you you needed to look more like a gq model. I need to lose a little bit of weight. No, that was me. Ahead we talk to an owner of a gun range. Tina wilson colin will join us ahead. Rand paul gives Hillary Clinton a taste of what is to come if she decides to run for president. Why the kentucky senator said good thing hillary didnt get her way while serving as secretary of state. A panda fakes her pregnancy to get special perks at a Research Center. I like that. Thats a smart panda. Youre watching morning joe. We will be right back. Funtil to keep growing, theys hneeded a new factory, but where . Fortunately, they get financing from ge capital. Were part of ge, a company thats built hundreds of factories. 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Unbelievable their competitor is lift. According to emails and interviews obtained by the verge, uber attempt to siphon drivers from other companies are using former contractors saying uber tries to recruit them and they offer anything to get started including iphone, cash, even a contract on the spot so lift is accusing uber of booking and cancelling rides. They had burn phones so they couldnt be traced. Bad news. The production behind the show cops is vowing to support the family of a crew member killed while filming this week. A sevenyear vet of the show was struck by an officers bullet during a shootout with a robbery suspect in omaha on tuesday. While crew members wear protective gear Officials Say the bullet slipped through an open spot in his vest. The Police Department is investigating the incident. This marks the first time a crew member was killed in the shows 25year history. Wow. The New York Daily News out with a newly released transcript for john lennon killer saying he bragged about his nincredible stalking of the former beatle. He scoped out the apartment building, the famous apartment on the Upper West Side here in new york. The building where lennon was living with yoko ono on new yorks Upper West Side. He expressed remorse acting like an idiot. Chapman was denied patrol for the eighth time running. Usa today bob dylans six disk compilation basement tape is released. It will be released nearly half a century after it was recorded. The collection was restored from original tapes recorded in 1967 during dylans sessions with musicians who later became the band. During that time, they recorded over a hundred songs at a studio in sagertese, new york. The album hits the stands november 4th. Cnbc. Com. You ran six miles yesterday . I know. In that hot sun. Insider trading suspect made a run for it yesterday while barefoot after noticing camera crews in front of his house. Michael lukarelli ran for it after spotting tv cameras. He has on a tank and khakis. He kept running as his flipflops flipped off. He was indicted on 13 charges of securities fraud. He has pretty good form there. Making nearly 545,000 in illegal profits. He has wheels. He does have wheels. Six miles . I didnt know that is what you were asking me. I went running but not from the police. Here is another story. Diane sawyer signs off unexpectedly a little bit early. What . Why . Did you not know this . No, i didnt it was in the daily news yesterday. I was watching the bbc with my dad. Yesterday she decided. She has been doing this a long time. Shes tired. She leaves and as it said, she exits on top and now david muehr will take over. The evening news battle is going to get pretty fierce. We knew the announcement came that david muehr would be taking over and diane sent a tweet in the afternoon saying this is it. By the way, im out of here. That is really the way to do it. You dont need all of the confetti and everything else. I agree. That would make you tired. Shes not going anywhere. She will be on abc for a long time to come. She is amazing. A new poll breaks down how women really feel about the Republican Party. Hey, guys, its not good. We have to do something about this. Kind of ugly. Its just part of this world. First, the struggle against the forces of darkness. How the Islamic State hijacked iraqs religion. We will be back with more morning joe. From safety. To fuel economy. To quality. Todays chevrolet has it all. And the time to buy is now. Its the chevy labor day sale and 0 financing for 72 months is back plus, no Monthly Payments for 90 days. 0 financing for 72 months plus no Monthly Payments for 90 days on most 2014 vehicles. 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