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MSNBCW Morning Joe September 15, 2014 10:00:00

Hello, iowa im back shes back and clearly running. She says she hasnt decided yet but thats what someone does when they run for president. They go to iowa, joe. Yes, they do. They go to iowa. They go the steak fry. Harold, isnt that what they do . I dont know. Harold. Thats what i heard. Jeremy peters would know. When youre running for president write a book, check and then go around the country talking about what your beliefs are. Check. Use that book tour. Then do you go to iowa . I think New Hampshire is next. Exactly. So that is basically a run for president unless she says it isnt. Right. So the silliness like will she or wont she we dont do that any more. Lets look at the images. Harkin, clinton, hillary, they are at the steak fry and grilling steak. Yeah. Thats big. Okay. I like steak. 5,000 people showed up. Thats great. They were very excited. All very upset when she said, a little joke i havent decided. They all said boo. Because they want her to run. You know whats thor to here, joe. Ill tell you what the story is. I like Hillary Clinton. But what Hillary Clinton has done over the past year or so is why americans hate politics. Why . It just is. What . Shes having fun. Shes having steak. Youre secretary of state. You play it safe. You then write a book. You say absolutely nothing. You go around on a glorified book tour where you say nothing. You want people to ask you to run for president so you can say im not running for president we dont know yet. You go to these stupid events. Youre either running or not running. Shes running. Thats okay. There are enough things going on in the world, we have enough crises that maybe playing safe, we need a politician that doesnt just sit back and act like a robot and just like get programmed in and do like no creativity. No spontaneousity, nothing from the heart. This is the problem for people who month her and like her. She puts on that political hat and then shes a robot. She goes through the motions. She doesnt reveal herself. She didnt do it against barack obama thats why she lost in 2008. It wasnt until her back was against the wall and had to stop acting like a robot on the campaign trail and instead had to be herself that Hillary Clinton started winning. Shes been a robot here for two years, playing safe, writing books, telling us absolutely nothing, going to iowa, doing absolutely nothing. And just begging people to beg her to run for president of the United States or not while people are getting their heads carved off. This is not a game. This is not some little chess match. This is something that actually matters. And these families that have been around for like decades and who are now getting their children ready to run, and im not just talking about the clintons, im talks about the bushs and these two american families. You know what . If you want to run, run. If you want to save america get your ass out there and save america. Stop playing your stupid political games because more people are out of work and if they do have jobs they got two or three crappie jobs. The rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer, terrorists are carving heads off people who are trying to help in the middle east and you are playing games rubbing your hands together like hamlet jeb if youre going to run, run and if youre not going to run tell us. Hillary, if youre going to run just say youre going to run and stop playing games. We got to roll up our sleeves. If youre not going to run, then get the hell out of the way. So other people can get out there and we can start having a serious debate. What did ted turner say, lead, follow or get the hell out of the way. Hey hillary, lead, follow or get the hell out of the way. I dont want to see you eating steak. I want to see you talking about how were going to stop isis, not behind some cute little prepackaged plan that some of your handlers fixed up or somebody helped you write in a book. Same with you jeb. Come on mr. Savior of the republican party. If youre the savior of the republican party, then get out there or listen to your mom and just stay home. But stop having it both ways. Lets not cover that story. Lets cover real news. Ill end with this. In iowa with a teasing statement its true im thinking about it. Oh, shut up shut up, hillary. Shut up, jeb. No. You guys, if the two great families that have look where we are right now, right . Right . You guys have done really great havent you . America is in a great place after 25 years of bushclinton rule. What a way to go. If youre going to run, run. Give us new ideas that help us face the next 25 years. By the way, i would really like george h. W. Bush to run. I know. Wouldnt that be wonderful. Identify always loved jeb. Hes my favorite politician. Of all leaders hes my favorite leaders. Im sick and tired of the cat and mouse game. Maybe ill run, maybe i won. Hillary the same thing. Let them ask me to run and it will make me feel so good. I agree with you. Do it or dont do it. John and alex in the control room, we have kasie hunt coming up later talking about hillary in iowa. Can we scratch that and anything else that happened in iowa that was ready for elizabeth group. There was a whole other bunch of stuff happening. If she can come in to her raw tape that might serve our purpose. Mika, how was your weekend . It was okay. Okay . Yeah. Mine was really relaxing. It was. I just got a little revved up. I can tell. Im sick and tired of the games. I dont understand the calculation. Nfl story will set you off again. Jeremy wants to talk. You raise an interesting point because behind the fact of all of this empty political rhetoric, the kabuki, oh, im thinking about it stuff, you forget hillary is actually extremely well positioned to run on her Foreign Policy credentials right now. With the world on fire you would think she would be hear some ideas but youre not. Thats the problem. Maybe some criticism or concern. Thats why americans hate politics. Honesty. Its all calculation. All right. Thank you, jeremy. Is it too early to start running . How would you do it if you were advising her . Run then. I get it. How would she begin the talk . Im running for president. I know im supposed to sit back and play it safe but have you seen the middle east is on fire. You know what the Democratic Party is right now lost. The Democratic Party may actually lose control of the senate. Were going to face two miserable years. Im going out on the campaign trail and put my heart out on my sleeve an tell me why democrats are so important, why democrats need to win, why its critical you dont let the tea party take over the senate and house. They will talk about how i work with the Democratic Senate and the house to get people back to work, get good jobs with good wages, stop the isis threat in the middle east. Now is the time. Dont calculate. We have definitely heard you. Ill get to more news here because we have lots to get to. A vote is expected on capitol hill are there tranquilizers on this . You need some. A u. S. Plan to arm and train Syrian Rebels in the fight against isis. Several arab powers say they will help strike target from the air but putting combat force on the ground is elusive. Commitments from overseas is vague with concerns that the military campaign could end up helping the Syrian Government and in turn its supporters in iran. While a majority of americans back the administrations push for action nearly 70 lack confidence the u. S. Will accomplish its goals. Fewer than four in ten approve the president s Foreign Policy. Lets bring in nbc news chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel live in istanbul, turkey with the latest on this. Richard . Reporter good morning. Secretary kerry is in paris today and hes attending a conference. Hes sounding much more optimistic than in the past. Hes talking about dozens of nations that have signed on to join this coalition. In the arab world today the arab newspapers are all talking about an Arab Coalition that arab states have signed up, that some although not named are even willing to join in combat operations. So if you ask the state department and weve been talking to state Department Officials they tell you that this is starting to work, that a coalition is starting to come together. The main question is what happens after you bomb . The bombing isis is relatively easy. They are not hiding. They are operating in training camps. They are moving in visible vehicles that they were, many of them they captured from the iraqi army, american armored vehicles. Then who is going to go in to replace them . If you started bombing, for example, the main syrian city where isis is based right now, the city where its been holding many hostages, the force thats more likely to take over after that bombing is hezbollah and iran and the Syrian Government of bashar al assad. Actually, let me ask you. As we look for allies overseas, youre standing right in the middle. Obviously a country thats not been the best ally in antiterror operations. In fact, we wonder about their commitment not only there but also against hamas and several other terror groups. Where is turkey right now . Reporter turkey is in a very strange position, very difficult position because if you looked recently the outgoing u. S. Ambassador, he issued some statements that were very controversial here. As kerry was touring around the middle east he came out and said in the past turkey has aligned itself with groups that the United States doesnt support. He meeting with groups that United States considers terrorist organizations. Lot of criticism against turkey for allowing its very long border with syria to be a transit point for foreign fighters, militants can arrive from around the world and pass through the border, oftentimes with the turkish government and the Turkish Military looking the other way. Some tightening of security has happened along the border but turkey hasnt committed itself to intervening militarily in this coalition. Thats partly because turkey is trying to show independence. And the militants from isis are holding more than 40 turkish diplomats hostage and very possible turkey at least publicly come out and says it supports these actions that those hostages could be killed. Nbcs Richard Engel. Thank you very much. Of course the horrible news over the weekend the militants threaten to execute a fourth western captive after releasing video on saturday showing the beheading of a british aid worker david haines. He was captured by militants in syria 2013. The terror group says it will now kill hostage alan henning. Lets turn now to nfl. Multiple sources tell nbc sports that ray rice will appeal his indefinite suspension for lying about what occurred in a casino elevator with his then fiancee. Rice is expected to say he told officials the truth. What did or did not know about the altercation is leading to growing calls for commissioner Roger Goodell to resign. A womans Advocacy Group flew this banner that had this hash tag, goodellmustgo. Response to the case led to powerful statements from sports broadcasters on sunday. Its the biggest mistake of Roger Goodells career. He should have never been in the Court Process because then you have to be the investigator. Then you have to look into all the details. He has other things too many inconsistencies. He should be the Supreme Court justice. There should not only be a trial court, an appellate process and if it gets to roger let it get to roger. This is a big mistake and it has to change. I spent this week answering seemingly impossible questions about the leagues biggest stars. Mom, why did he do that . Why is he in jail . Why did he get fired . And yesterday why dont they even have control of their own players . The nfl patient seeing is believing. If they had to see that video to be moved to action shouldnt those that support the league demand action. We all wait on the answer to the central question, what exactly does the nfl stand for . What does it stand for, harold . Ill tell you, the commissioner has got a lot of questions to answer. He probably brought more of this on to himself than he expected early on. You know, if, indeed, some of these things they are saying is true the video was there, he may have known some of this he has a real problem. If those things are not true, here are some of the things but im not convinced he has to resign if the video he didnt know about the video or everything what about the two day suspension for somebody getting the hell beaten out of them. Willie said it best. That was the initial response of the nfl. If that was a response, then he may have to answer that as well. I dont understand why are they are they so blind to the culture of violence in the nfl because its surrounding them . Its such a part of the life of so many of these players . Well, i wouldnt go as far to say i think this is a cultural thing. Im not sure violence that people Domestic Violence. That players are committing. First of all if you look at the incidents. The incidents outside of the nfl are far greater than in the nfl. We need to talk about this as a society and culture overall. That being said i think the commissioner has got to be able to respond honestly to these questions and if indeed he didnt see the video, didnt know about this, no one in his office knew about it its hard to say he has to resign. If he did know about it he has a real problem. Mika, he makes so much money. He does. If he didnt know about the video how do you say he needs to resign. Or a two game suspension. Ray rice basically saying that he lied. If thats true then i think youre right he has a real problem the commissioner does. He has three different sources saying he knew. Theres a much bigger problem. As you go through this, mika, you see what happened in the past several weeks. You have a cluelessness when there was an interview with Norah Odonnell. Hes sitting there and parsing words. For the billions of dollars they make they should hire a pr person. You guys make billions of dollars. You cant hire one good pr person that can help you on here . Just maybe they called baltimore and talked to the own there are. He seems to know you get it out. Which always suggests to me if they are not getting it out there that means theres more there. That means that they dont want light to be shone as a disinfectant. One of the problem is, you both talk about the dollars and money that Roger Goodell makes and the nfl makes. Where do they make the money from . Where is the money coming from . Sponsor, right . Isnt that how it works. Have any sponsors pulled out . Wheres gatorade . Wheres the big names that flash the stadiums and make commercials. Where are they on this . Were sitting here condemning the nfl rightfully show, for their stupidity, bone head edness and support for Domestic Violence. But these sponsors are in the same boat. They are paying for it. They are paying to watch football and then the side effects of it, Domestic Violence, play out and they are making money off of it and paying the nfl. How much longer. What about womens organizations. They need to pull out unless something happens. Womens organizations are speaking up. Womens organizations are going to the games. I like what womens organizations are doing. But they dont have the power. I misspoke. What about products that are focused on women. Correct. I totally agree. That are still sponsoring that. All products. If youre a major sponsor i know what youre talking about women wearing ray rice jerseys. Thats sick. Is covergirl a sponsor of the nfl, guys . Well get a list of their sporns. Check and see. Ive seen somebody do a mock up on twitter. If you were a business and you focused on women, selling to women and youre still a sponsor of the nfl you got a serious problem. I think if youre a business in general and sponsor the nfl and have not talked about this in your Corporate Community and decided to either speak to them or make a move then youre complicit, because youre paying them for this. They are making money. As long as nfl is making the money they have a business thats running and allows them to be arrogant and tone deaf and put things like Domestic Violence under the rug and pretend it doesnt exist. Youre paying for it, sponsors. Youre paying for it. Covergirl has an nfl collection. Covergirl needs to do something. Still ahead on morning joe well check with kasie hunt who is in iowa. She has the Elizabeth Warren story. Well find out the answer to the big question on everybodys mind, what kind of steak did they serve. And outage at six flags. And what went on during the palin family brawl of 2014. Sources close to the palin family are now weighing in. Thats so, so funny. There we go. Look at this one. Its monday. A brand new start. 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