My fellow canadians, for the second time this week, theres been a brutal and violent attack on our soil. But this weeks events are a grim reminder that canada is not immune to the types of terrorist attacks we have seen elsewhere around the world. But we will not be intimidated. Canada will never be intimidated. Good morning, it is thursday, october 23rd, welcome to morning joe. We have senior Political Editor sam stein. And in washington, washington
anchor for bbc world news america catty cay. And joe with me this morning. A lot of politics to kbet to but we have big news out of canada to start with this morning. Yeah, big news out of canada. It was unfortunately, rem any sent of what happened in the u. S. Capital in 1998 when a a deranged man shot and killed a guard at the u. S. Capital. So the question is whether this is part of a larger plot, which right now it doesnt look like this is. Whether it was just a random act. Well see. The Prime Minister is vowing the country will not be intimidated after a gunman shot and killed a soldier guarding its war memorial. Sources say the gunman has been identified as 32yearold as Michael Joseph hall. He was a convert to islam. The gunman was later killed in a shootout at the canadian equivalent and this hour officials are investigating possible ties to terror groups. Pete williams has more on a terrifying day in ottawa. Out of the way Reporter Police in ottawa frantically searched for armed men for most of the day in the fourth largest city just before 10 00 a. M. Eastern time. A soldier standing guard was shot and seriously wounded by a man with a rifle, a shocking scene witnessed by many by standers. I was just passing over here and heard a shot, turned around and there was a a guy with a rifle just around on the back corner. Just pow, pow. I thought it was just fire crackers going off. I look across the street and theres a man with a rifle shooting at a bunch of people. The gunman then hijacked a car. Then took off towards the back here and headed in that direction. Reporter the gunman went a third of the mile to the building housing parliament in session at the time. As officers inside responded, dozens of shots rang out inside the buildings or nat halls. Members of Parliament Inside meeting rooms reacted by piling furniture against the doors. Outside members were hustled away by police and security. Canadian Authorities Say the gunman was shot and killed in parliaments central hall of honor. Police also went door to door after witnesses reported there were other armed men in the streets, but Officials Say they found no evidence of other gunmen. Were looking for people who were there who can talk about this. Look who we found. Former u. S. Managing editor of
financial times now member of the canadian parliament, used to be on morning joe a lot, you were there locked down in Parliament Yesterday until 8 00 last night. Tell us what the scene was like. Well, it was a very, very frightening time. I was walking towards our caucus meeting yesterday morning. It was a time when theres a large number of members of parliament in the building. Theres a time they have their weekly caucus meeting. I was walking towards my caucus meeting and i heard in the stairwell above me shots, chi recognized as shots. I ran into a nearby room and i hid there. It turned out to be the lunchroom of the security guard. s of the house of common, so that was a lucky choice for me and i was soon joined by a lot of security staff who were really helpful and i spent the
rest of the day being shuffled around from room to room in the house of commons as they tried to clear the building. I would like to say one thing, which is i, like all canadians today, is thinking of captain nathan and his family, the soldier shot and killed yesterday. And is the most important casualty of yesterdays tragic events. Sam stien . Just a quick question, im glad to see youre okay. Thoughts obviously go. To the officer. What is the latest that we know about the motivation of the shooter . We still dont know. Its less than 24 hours since all this happened. Its being investigated. I u think that we have to be really careful about speculating too much before we have full details. What im really pleased about is the house, our parliament will be in session today at 10 00 in
the morning. We are determined that were not going to be intimidated by this and canada is not going to change. Okay thank you so much, good to see you. Hope to see you under better circumstances. Thank you. Were going to turn to the battle for the senate. A new polling says were in for an exciting nail biter. Have you seen some numbers . In iowa, joni ernst, shes leading bruce braley 47 to 46 . She had the nickname the castration candidate. She may live up to that. You never know. Scott Brown Holding on to a onepoint lead over Jeanne Shaheen. And in colorado challenger congressman Cory Gardener opened up a 7point lead over mark udall. He leads that race 46 to 3 . Joe s there any way to describe whats going on here . I mean, if you take those three polls, things are break the republicans way. Democrats believe the race in colorado is much closer. Those are the same democrats that say certain races they have already lost. Maybe an outliar in colorado. The one thats stick out to me right now is New Hampshire. Lets put that back up. In New Hampshire debates matter. I had a democratic u opera ty that said Jeanne Shaheen looked angry on stage and they were worried about her performance in the debate. This is only one point. All the polls are one point. A last swing could shift control of congress one direction or another. This certainly is a surprise. Scott brown, one point ahead
with a week or so to go. Thats a big surprise. New hampshire being tight. People said they expected her to win by a couple points. If it gets down to that tightness, democrats are in for a long night. With colorado, that 7point spread is larger than anything else. People are going to say its closer. I think it is, but every trend line is pointing Cory Gardeners way. Those people who are data advantage list evangelists should recognize that cory has a growing lead. Things are clearly trending towards the republican direction there. Sam, you have to look. Somebody asked me the other day, do i think editorials still matter . They certainly do in a state like colorado where you have the denver post who is left of
center who delivers a blistering attack on the democratic candidate mark udall. On top of that, you have the fact hes saying hes trying to get away from barack obama and hes going to be tough against barack obama when hes voted with him 96 of the time. Even the New York Times yesterday was saying of these democrats that they were doing themselves a great disservice. I dont think senator udall looks to be the most straight forward guy right now in this race. Theres only one sort of general theme that ties all these races together and thats the president. In some races, obama is clearly an anchor on the candidate. You saw it in kentucky where they couldnt state the obvious, which was barack obama. Since then you have seen a cascading effect. Every single candidate in this race has asked to express their
positions visavis the president. What did you think of the handling of the Health Care Law . Thats swamped the end of this election. It hasnt been the greatest of developments for democrats. There are some races it hasnt been as bad as others. But in colorado particularly, you can see it being a problem. It looks bad, but with almost all these races, its a onepoint race. Im fascinated by whats happening in wisconsin. Scott walker hanging on by one point in most polls. Thats a close race, a lot closer than republicans would have thought it was going to be. This is going down to the wire. Maybe theres a trend. Line this way or that way for republicans, but that could all change. Before we get to that, because i have something on that, i think for joni ernst its the new hog ad. Have you seen it . They have the squeal ad. She has a new one. Im going to show it to you later. She has typical politicians in washington that are full of, well, lets just say bad ideas. You have to look at the imagery she puts out there and its pretty good. You mentioned scott walker. There are several closely contested Gubernatorial Races to keep an eye on. Scott walker has a slight lead in wisconsin, 47 to 46 . Thats tight. Florida governor rick scott and chris christie, look at that. They are divided along gender lines. Women favor crist by 6 points. In connecticut, it looks like 2010 all over again for Governor Dannel Malloy. But the latest poll has malloy
leading foley in their rematch 43 to 42 . These governor races are as exciting. Yeah, and especially that one in florida. When you look at florida and the race there and how bitter those debates have been, no wonder most floridians are turned off by what they have seen on stage. But particularly i think florida, colorado race, well be looking at the turn. Out of women. How many turn out to vote . Perhaps in colorado the thing that democrats are drawing some caution from is the idea that maybe hispanics are underrepresented in the polls. I think its going to be woman in colorado and women in the race down in florida. All right sam stein, democrats dont have the same gender gap. Advantage that they have had over republicans in the past this year. And in colorado especially,
udall is getting mocked for going to the womens issues one time too many and trying to paint as a cartoon figure. He was mocked by the denver post. I would not overstate that though. Thats an issue that motivates a lot of women voters. The question it goes state by state. Some you see gender gaps bigger than others. In colorado the key question appears to be what percentage of the hispanic population is going to come out to vote and whether they are going to be angered with the president and Senate Democrats for punching on one of their biggest priorities which was Immigration Reform and deferred action. There are consequences to decisions made many months ago. One of those could be in colorado. Now to this, she isnt naming any names, but Elizabeth Warren says shes been treating differently by colleagues on capitol hill because shes a woman. When the massachusetts democrat was asked if she wanted to
elaborate, she answered, simply, nope. She did say the different treatment wasnt surprising adding its hard to change the big, male dominated institutions. What im happy about is there are now enough women in the United States senate to bring change to that place and i think thats just powerfully important. Why is it that powerful women in the United States senate are talking about discrimination, gender discrimination, gender bias, being treated differently in the workplace, and yet when pressed to name the offenders refuse to say anything . This cone of silence to protect powerful men, i am sorry, i thought thats what the feminist movement was fighting against . Powerful positions of authority
who sexually harassed would be called out. Why wont they call them out . It brings to mind the conversation we had about senator gillibrand who wrote about in her book but chose not to publicly name the offenders. I met with her yesterday interviewing her for my book, and shes as impressive as they come. On this issue, the fear is the moment. And you are still in a position where youre not really on an equal level to Say Something back or youre powerful enough to move beyond it and make change on a bigger level. The context of the Elizabeth Warren story . I dont think its fair to call on her to elaborate. Shes asked on it out of the blue. But if she has something she wants to put out there, i u dont think that helps us. I was sort of in joes mind
set beforehand. I talked to a bunch of people about this. One of the positions that they say is that if you go by naming names, it becomes simple and easy for the conversation to focus on that one individual who you accuse of being a harasser or someone angry or mean towards you or disrespectful. And what they wanted was a broader conversation about general culture of the institution. And thats one of the reasons why. I think theres something compelling to that. Im all nor naming names. If you were working at the bbc and there were men going around and they are treating you differently and theres gender bias at the bbc or Sexual Harassment or people are grabbing you at the bbc and youre a reporter that goes around reporting against Sexual Harassment, you would call them out. You would have a responsibility to call them out. So why wont these powerful female senators do the same
thing . I really am confused. I think it depends you named the various degrees of offense. If theres gender bias, if theres Sexual Harassment and if somebody grabs you, those are potentially quite different thi things. If somebody actually physically does something to you, absolutely, you have to name names and call them out and do whatever is needed to have that person brought to some kind of justice, whatever it is. Thats obvious in the case of senator gillibrand. If its a gender bias, you have to look at it as a whole. Im not saying that person treated me disrespectful, i dont know whether naming names is particularly helpful because you get into a kind of situation. I do think when its egregious, you absolutely have to call it
out by name. When its broader, youre trying to get to a broader problem, not an individual relationship. For Elizabeth Warren, she was asked about it. So the answer is yes. Thats a little different. Im sympathetic on kirstens front. I still think we should name names. Its not worth it. You wrote a book about it. You blew the place up at msnbc and demanded fair treatment and you got fair treatment and you started a discussion and you brought in the president of msnbc who actually got engaged and participated in it. Because you did that, other people are treated differently and better. I agree with that completely. Why do the most powerful women in america sitting back saying if youre in the workplace and theres gender
bias, theres a war against women, so we want you to fight against it, unless theres bias against us because we were born female instead of male. When you looked at my situation, it had to be done. And im reading kirstens book. When youre talking about her poked and being called chubby, its totally, completely unacceptab unacceptable. But i will say, we women have to pick our battles. Is it worth bringing down that person at that moment or working on a higher level making more change, which is what shes doing. I do understand the whole thing a about picking your pat battles. I carefully pick my battles. No, you dont. I pick that one. You pick aum of them. You need to read kirstens book, its really good. Im in the middle of it. I read most to have last night. Shes coming on the show. Speak of reading the wall
street journal, i tried to email this. The wall street journal digitally is in the 1940s. Whoever running the wall street journal, you guys deliberately make your website so pathetic that we have to buy the paper. They have an oped on Hillary Clinton and Monica Lewinsky and were going to be getting to that. It is a barn burner. You cant read it online. I think they hear you. Still ahead on morning joe, some are calling it the biggest academic fraud in collegiate history. What investigators uncovered at the university of North Carolina. Youre not going to believe this. Plus the widespread problem of cyber bullying. Its a bigger problem for one of the sexes. Well have that for you later in the show. Then how far would you go to avoid prosecution for a crime. One man pretended to be in a coma for two years. That story, when we come back. Yeah, dinner sounds good. I could come by your place. My place . Uhh. Um. Hold on. Introducing the allnew volkswagen golf. Plenty of room for whatever life throws at you. When laquinta. Com sends him a ready for you alert the second his room is ready, ya know what salesman alan ames becomes . I think the numbers speak for themselves. Im sold a selling machine ready for you alert, only at lq. Com. A single ember that escapes from a wildfire can travel more than a mile. That single ember can ignite and destroy your home or even your community you cant control where that ember will land only what happens when it does get fire adapted now at fireadapted. Org
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