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MSNBCW Morning Joe November 11, 2014 11:00:00

Uniform. Once again, happy veterans day. Especially my dad in baltimore, maryland. Happy veterans day, dad. That does it for way too way early. Morning joe starts right now. Bob schieffer is the kind of guy who knows how to take care of business. He interviewed president obama sunday morning yesterday morning, didnt beat around the bush, didnt waste any time. Went right to it. This is face the nation. All the president s in modern history who have been successful, lbj, fdr, Ronald Reagan, teddy roosevelt, bill clinton they all seem to have a zest for politics. I dont have a sense that you have the same feeling they did. It makes me do you like politicians . Do you like politics . No. Thank you, mr. President. Thank you. I enjoyed it. All right then. Good morning it is tuesday, november 11th, veterans day. Welcome to morning joe. With us on the set we have Mike Barnacle and msnbc political analyst and visiting professor at nyu, former democratic congressman harold ford jr. And willie and me. Well get right to the arctic outbreak early. It came early this year. The question is how long will this last. This morning more than 100 schools one minnesota are closed. More than 200 flights have been cancelled after a storm dropped up to a foot of snow. Whats the date . There are frigid temperatures moving down from canada and when its all said and done more than 200 Million People will be feeling the freeze. Nbc meteorologist bill karins is tracking it. Bill . St. Cloud, minnesota. Most snow theyve seen in any given day, 13 inches of snow. First snow of the season. Some areas got nailed by the snow. Were tracking the cold. A little bit of snow left heading up towards wisconsin. Des moines a little bit of snow surprise this morning four. Green bay and milwaukee not snowing, still warm but that cold air is on its way. This is the story today as the arctic blast makes its way to dallas, chicago, st. Louis, indianapolis this afternoon. Heres the current wind chill. This is a map if i had to guess what month it was based on this map i would say december or january. Rapid city at minus 14. Amarillo, texas has a wind chill of 5 this morning. Notice chicago and st. Louis. That cold air is heading to you next. Heres your veterans day forecast. East coast, youre just fine. You have two more days of warmth before the cold makes it across the country. Watch the temperatures just plunge. By the time we get to thursday, thats when the cold will make its way all the way to the east coast, boston, new york and d. C. Thursday afternoon is when the cold air makes it here. Not as bad as a central plains. Snow is now on the ground, no sign of any warmth, in store for a very long november. Okay. Thank you, barns barns. Youre welcome. To foreign policy. Theres a new measure to the threat posed by isis militants, the reach of the terror group now expands into egypt. The countrys most Violent Extremist Group is pledging loyalty to the Islamic State. Fires have killed scores of egyptian troops and may have informant inside the military. Its another example of diminishing hope for democratic reforms following the arab spring. A memo obtained by the nbc news the Islamic State has plans to join with militants in pakistan. The spiraling violence can be traced back to iraq and syria. And the heart of the insurgency. Richard engel enter kobani and heres his report. Reporter for two bosco ha m kobani has been fighting for its life. We managed to get inside and found a city devastated but refusing to surrender. These kurdish fighters, women and men are outgunned and outnumbered. This 34yearold woman is a top field commander. Her name means strength. Now we run she says. Sheets hung across intersections cloak our movements from enemy snipers. You stay low and run fast. The enemy is just 20 yards away. She says when they come the isis fighters come in waves not just one or two but 40, 50 fighters will come and try to swarm into the building. Reporter to keep them back the kurds of kobani mostly have Light Weapons and grenades. Half of kobani has fallen toy isis. Its defenders are trying to claw it back. Kobani has been paying a heavy price for its resistance. This is whats left of main street. There are no people here. If i took two steps in that trex theres a danger of being shot by a sniper. The kurds are back by u. S. Air strikes. These are the men and women on the ground facing an enemy known for its savagery. Everyone here carries a weapon of last resort. They will commit suicide rather than be captured by isis. That was Richard Engel reporting. Thats happening willie not only in syria and iraq, now the news this morning really bad. It continues. Now focused on egypt. Focused on pakistan, two of the most important countries in the world, certainly in the muslim world. And the United States, whether they like it or not, is going to have to get involved. And stop the spread of this. I think were going to see a renewed focus on these foreign entanglemens. Everybody was wrapped up in the med terms for a month or so. Now you open the paper and say wait a minute how has the progress been. Its been 90 days or more. Are we doing enough, too little . This debate heats up again. As you say despite our best efforts more problems are flaring up through the region. The president loves leading from behind. You can lead from behind on this any more. Youre hearing admirals talking about retired admirals talking about what their sense is. Youre hearing commanders complaining about it. The president likes to go halfway in, a little bit at a time, just sort of back into things. Its just not going to work here. I dont think its going to work here. When you combine it with the fact you have a new Armed Services Committee Chair in the sense of john mccain. Lindsey graham will be empowered. If you said that this president eight months ago mr. President you would be on the verge of deploying several thousand troops to a region in which you promised to end conflict he would find that laughable. It causes more balanced approach. You cant pull all the way out or stay all the way in. It takes a different kind of approach. The president will be prodded by this new Republican Senate to do things he wasnt inclineded to do but forced to do. History will show george w. Bush went too far. Too excessive. Too prepared to use force. Barack obama and overcorrect and were paying a terrible price for it. If he does not change, if he does not do what every other president does, what bill clinton did, what fdr did, what Ronald Reagan did, what george w. Bush did and learn from his past mistakes, if he stays isolated in a bubble, there will be a tremendous price for america to pay and im not saying to go invade the middle east. Im saying to get out of your defensive crouch and get out of your bubble and figure out whats going on and Start Connecting the dots. Its frightening as hell and if i met one ambassador across the world, if i met one world leader across the world that wasnt scared as hell at how the United States is responding to this threat, i wouldnt be speaking this way because i always assume the president and the president s advisers know a hell a lot more about stuff than those of us who dont get the intel reports. I am hearing this from around the globe. This is really, really bad. And americas response is scaring the hell out of the world. You mentioned historys assessment. Historys seesments, the headline will be that george w. Bush broke the middle east by invading iraq. Thats where it begins. Today, where were at and you have to feel some sense of sympathy for this administration, for the president of the United States because clearly the underpinning of whats happening here is the complete inability of the iraqi army to defend their own country. Anbar province is gone. It is gone. We are over the next several months have to introduce more troops on to the ground. Anbar province was gone before. George w. Bush boroke the middl east. David petraeus, the troops, george w. Bush got drugged in 2006 in his second midterm. They selfcorrected and won Anbar Province back. They did, joe. And that required george w. Bush to do what pissed off a lot of again rals in the pentagon and find a general named David Petraeus and work around him, bob woodward documented this and do things you know he had to get out of his comfort zone. Its just not enough to say george w. Bush broke it and now well gee that gives barack obama a free pass. Im not saying youre saying that. Theres no doubt that the surge under bush and general petraeus, the surge worked. But what did it work as . It wasnt a victory. It stevof staved off defeat. Thats right. We held Anbar Province. Would we rather hold Anbar Province or have isis hold Anbar Province. At some point barack obama and his people have toed mitt they screwed up by getting out of iraq as quickly as possible. This is what the 2012 election was about. They have to admit he screwed up. He was as ideological about getting out as george bush was ideologically about getting in. They should of negotiated much stronger with the Iraqi Government to maintain a true presence in iraq. One other element to point out on veterans day today is 1500 more advisors are going in, u. S. Troops going into iraq. Its a political decision from washington. Thats 1500 families. Again were going to go through this again and worry whether their husband or daughter or wife is going to come back alive. Can i ask, harold, i dont want american troops to go back to war. But you got to make some uncomfortable decisions. If you dont want american troops to go to war, then you have to do what has to be done to have the kurds take care of their own area and that means upsetting turkey and that means upsetting other people in the region. But, you know what . We dont have a lot of option. Arm the kurds. They will fight for their land. If we arm them to the teeth and give them all the support they need, our men and women dont have todiefor somebody elses property they will fight and die as we saw with Richard Engel for their own property. We wont make any decisive decisions, we sit back and let the waves batter us. Consistent with your point one of the things the democrats were highly critical of president bush about and Vice President cheney is that they were not clear and forceful in asserting why and what interests we had at stake in the region. When it became clear there were no weapons of mass destruction they didnt back track. This president hasnt made clear what our objectives are and what kind of timetable he sees us committing to. Its incumbents upon him whatever course of action to take to make clear to the country what were doing and why were doing and apply that theology and conceptual thinking to how and what were doing there. Not invading the middle east. Its not about sending troops back over to the middle east. Theres a lack of clarity. Its about being aggressive and telling turkey tough luck. Before you explain it to the American People you have to explain it to the president of turkey. The kurds are coming into your country through northern syria. Youre not going to prevent them from coming into syria. Enjoy kurdistan. You havent done the job. You played footsies with the terrorists for your own reasons. Fine. Youll have the kurds on your southern border. Were not going to send our men and women to fight and die because you let terrorists use istanbul and your terrorist highway to get to isis. Its insanity. We have to make turkey pay. Because either they pay or our sons and daughters die over there. So one of the issues that will be debated in 2016, running up to the 2016 election and right now two people generating some of the most interest for 2016 are the same two people who have said they are not running. Unlike Hillary Clinton and rand pull laying the framework for president ial campaigns, mitt romney and Elizabeth Warren push back on white house speculation. That doesnt mean they are not feeling the gravitational pull. The Washington Post reports mitt romney called dozens of candidates after tuesdays midterms cementing relationships nationwide. Supporters put out a spreadsheet contrasting his midterm picks and associates and former governors said if jeb bush doesnt run romney would consider jumping in again. A former Campaign Staffer for obama signed up for the group ready for warren which is building a base in iowa and new hampshire. What do you think of that, mika . I dont think its a big deal but seems to being pushed out there. Arent you hearing a lot of democrats saying they just dont they used to think hillary was ineactivity scrabble and 2014 has shown hillary is not inevit ampinevitable. From our democratic friends in washington, d. C. They dont think shes inevitable. 2014 makes her a stronger candidate largely because shes the perception and mika you raised this before. Talking about elizabeth warren . Hillary clinton. Mika has made the point that what is it she stands for and a lot of people to joes point believes she stands for this clinton model and the clinton engine of how you approach big issues. She will benefit from that but she has to begin to articulate that. She benefitted largely because president obama is seen on the sidelines. She was out there. She has to begin to articulate a message. If she was clumsy like with the launch of the book but i dont think inability bubble has been burst. Theres a desire to hear her. She doesnt say much she will have a problem. Theres a great desire in the party for her to begin to speak up more and be a leader. Imagine if you are Elizabeth Warren, youre sitting there, youre a smart person, and you know, you know that you own 100 the Biggest Issue in the upcoming president ial election in 2016. You own take home pay. You own the paycheck that workers in this country, republican and democrat take home. You own that issue. Mike, if you and i were advising her and were not we should be advising her to run. What would she have to lose. Mika what does Elizabeth Warren have to lose if she runs for president . I think two things in terms of Hillary Clinton. Theres a lot of room for her to be lame. If you go to a room of 500 people doing a book event, we did a few recently and asked the room are you ready for hillary they raise their room. They just do it. Its automatic. Until its not. But its still these experiences weve had over the years have reflected, you know, with mitt romney we would see the lack of excitement. Which now you see. Actually its bizarre. We went around for four years we go on College Campuses, go all over and mika always asks people who your excited about. For four years nobody raised their hands about mitt romney from 2009 through 2012. Now, youre talking about romney. Which is bizarre. Okay. Wait a second. When you knew he was running you werent interested and now we go there and mika goes some of the people are interested in mitt romney. And were stunned how many people raise their hands. Putin helped. Putin helped. In a huge way. By the way did you guys see these pictures. Awkward. Whats the deal. Why are they wearing pajamas. Is that culturally insensitive. That is. If you could take it back thats culturally insensitive to russians wearing silk pajamas. They had a moment on the sideline but didnt discuss issues. They gave their little fist pump hello. This is a beautiful place. Still ahead on this veterans day we have some that is a snappy outfit. Really nice. Sector of the va bob mcdonald its like j. J. Abrams star trek. Plus the ceo and president of the Ford Motor Company mark fields with a big announcement for his company on morning joe. Also ahead who should play Edward Snowden in the adaptation of his life. Well tell you what actor has signed up for the role. How this corvette ended up in the delaware river. Well be right back. How much money do you have in your pocket right now . I have 40, 21. Could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement . I dont think so. Well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years, that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. Do solemnly swear that i will support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. Take a look at the morning papers. The New York Times later morning the new york city doctor infected with ebola will be released from tramt. Officials at Bellevue Hospital said Craig Spencer is free of the virus and poses no risk to the public. Spencers fiancee and two friends were quantitied but no one else has tested positive for the virus. Spencer fell ill after treating patients in new guinea. How many doctors have been cured . Amazing. Amazing what he does. Maybe four, five, six. Dr. Brantley was the first in atlanta and a couple since then. Amazing the treatment. Through all the controversy the treatment that the United States is able to provide they are curing people of this d. C. Thats wiping out western africa. U. S. Today fbi says Violent Crime is on the decline. It dropped 4 since 2012. The drop in violence span categories murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault. Usa today so moving lava flow from the hawaiian volcano has engulfed its first home. A fastmoving breakout from the lava flow set the home on fire. As of now it shows little sign of slowing down. The guardian actor Joseph Gordon levitt will play

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