Treadmill in space. Reality to restore insanity or fear or pat stevens career, none of that was really me. You the nation did all of that. I Just Got Paid for it. Thanks. From the beginning of my show it was mygoal to live up to the name of this network, influence central. And if all we achieved over the last nine years was to come in to your home each night and help make a difficult day better, man, what a waste. Nation, i want you to know if i had to do it all again, if i could do it with you, i would do it the same. Good morning. Its friday, december 19th. The friday before christmas. Your all ready . So not ready. With us on set we have msnbc contributor Mike Barnacle, former treasury official and morning joe economic analyst Steve Rattner and in washington the host and managing editor of tv one news one now, roland martin. Colbert. I dont want it to stop. Its bittersweet because he was so good for nine years but i cant wait to see what he does on cbs as himself. Hes a brilliant guy. Hes a genius comedian. Being a great to see him. I love it. Bill clinton. Is he going to be colbert or colbert. He was colbert before this character. His family is originally colbert. I dont know. I think hell stay with colbert. This is fun. I agree, though. I want i want to stay. I hope the transition is fantastic but it seems like when you have a good thing im going to miss him doing the colbert report. Hes going out at the top from this gig. Hes trying something so new and a challenge. Genius and a great guy which is nice. Absolutely. We wish him the best. Hope hes nice to us. Scared. I dont know. All right. Lets get to the news. Federal officials may give word as early as today as who the source of the sony cyber attack is. The white house is calling the suspected attack a Serious National Security matter. U. S. Officials say the attack may have begun months ago and routed through a series of servers to disguise the origin. But while a senior u. S. Official told nbc news this week that the u. S. Concluded north korea was responsible, Administration Officials did not say so in public on thursday. The Obama Administration is considering how to respond but it says the attackers may be sophisticated and itching for reaction. Well they are getting it. White House Press Secretary josh earnest also confirmed sony previously sought feedback from Administration Officials about the interview. Administration officials are requested prior to its release at the request of official from the company producing the movie. Im not suggesting you dictated you had an involvement in this months ago. Did this administration under estimate the impact this would have. No because we would not be in a position of dick tight an outcome or changes to a film. We did so at the request of the company. So, again, you have this private company that had come to the Administration Officials seeking their input, and that was presumably that input was shared. Talking to people who know a lot more about this than we do and experts on hacking, ive heard for over the past six months this is the next frontier, this is the next big one coming. What do you think the chances are this is only the beginning, kind of a complete reversal of safety online . I think, clearly Companies Like sony will have to uptick their web security as much as banks and the grid do. Clearly this was, in that world not that difficult a task to get in there and they had inside help, im told in the company. But its a big leap from the kind of security they had around their system aside from sony. I think every company sure every company is going to have to look at their security in like of this. Whats scary to me is this is north korea. This isnt china. Although china may have helped. We dont know. This isnt russia. This is a country thats living halfway back to the stone age and able to wreak this havoc and get in this system. Im not one thats paranoid about my security. North korea back to the stone age at the end of the day this is espionage, cyber espionage. Were such a Technology Driven society and all of a sudden it will force people to realize that you dont fear somebody moving battle ships into the seas, you dont fear submarines you fear somebody, the leaders of a country who can bring down institutions in this country. Yes, this is a National Issue across the board. Imagine youre a hacker planning or thinking about doing something larger and you saw the disruption this caused what about issues of National Security. Its a little scary. Power grids, water supply. Variety is reporting sony could lose up to 75 million after shelving this movie the interview including 30 million in marketing cause. Paramount has now banned theaters from showing Team America World police instead of the the interview. George clooney is speaking out about his failed attempt to get hollywoods biggest names to sign a letter of support for sony. Clooney said we have a new paradigm, a new reality and we have to come to terms with it all the way down the line. This was a dumb comedy that was about to come out with the First Amendment. Youre never protecting jefferson, its usually protecting some guy whos got a dumb idea. We were just saying that in the lounge. But the problem is nobody likes the idea of banning this movie. Nobody likes the idea of giving in to the equivalent of terrorists. I was talking to a couple of senior hollywood people. If you were a senior hollywood executive, if you run a Movie Theater, you run a cable channel, do you want to take a risk in retaliation for you putting this on one of your people gets killed or kidnapped, theres violence they dont want to take the risk. You cant blame them. No, you cant. Everyone is upset about freedom of expression. Were all upset about that. But i was talking to someone yesterday, a lawyer, big time lawyer who said it begins at the Shopping Mall level. The Shopping Mall where the theater is located. So basically lawyers come in and say well do we have 100 assurance from the fbi that nothing will happen. No we cant give you that. I wouldnt take the risk. I dont know. I think what George Clooney said is right. I liked the idea of this. A lot of conservatives didnt like the idea of the assassination of george w. Bush winning awards either. I really am stunned that everyone has capitulated. And team america. A movie that came out years ago that is a funny movie. There are puppets in the movie. You have puppets having sex in the movie okay, stop. No, no. Its a love scene. Its done tastefully. But i got to say if we have got to the point now where you are banning puppet movies because you fear north korea let me just say you suck. Im glad you dont guard the pentagon. Im glad you werent there in 1944 scaling the walls of normandy. You suck. If youre scared of puppet sex that somehow no, no, come on. If you were running the multiplex on 42nd street you would put the interview on and say come on. I would put the interview on. What if they didnt let you. I would put the interview on. You know what . There would be a lot of Police Protection and there would be lines wrapped around the block. 20 american flags in front of there. And say come on. Come at me. You know what the problem is with this. What say you . Joe you and i agree. The problem i have they make the threat. The question so the fbi, to Homeland Security, is it a credible threat. Are we essentially saying north korea has sleeper cells in america just because they made the threat . Thats where the problem is here. Im really shocked that they went to this level to say by simple threat oh, my goodness we have North Koreans all over america waiting to pounce. Roland you dont know what the threats are or how serious are. Are you kidding me . You have a department of Homeland Security and fbi and cia for a reason. Do they have any intel that suggests that the threat can actually be backed up by reality. Mika, im sorry, this is George Clooney says this is our new reality. I understand what hes saying and i think its like a poke. This cant be our new reality. We cant let tyrannical governments halfway across the world dictate what movies were going to show on the Upper West Side. Thats nice of George Clooney while hes vacationing in sicily somewhere. Dont knock George Clooney. Thats a cheap shot. Youre in the south france every weekend. You know what listen there is nothing, willie, thats more sad than watching somebody who vacations in the south of france attack somebody that vacations in italy. I dont think we should, alex, thank you very much. I agree with you. No. I agree with you. The government has to come up with a credible plan for security for the places that are going to show this. Credible intelligence. Why do they . Why do they . Why do they . What happens next . What happens if chad does chad still exist . What if chad decides they will blow up the Village Voice. Do we shut down the Village Voice . What if lithuania this is preposterous and everybody has caved into it. Everybody has caved. Are you kidding me . How do you know what the threats are . How do you know . At this point its a pretty big threat. Mika, i got your answer. The department of Homeland Security has a threat level. Its color coded or number or whatever the hell it is. Heres the deal. If there was credible threat with intelligence what do we say level three, four, five. Have we done that . No. This is solely based on a simple threat. Thats the fundamental problem. We went through the whole idea, saddam might bomb us, he has problems, he didnt have any. But a basic threat, is there actual intelligence. Roland, when your company is hacked and everything is unravelled inside your company, personal emails flying every where, personal financial flying every where and the bottom is brought out everything that your Company Stands for and threats attached to that you let me know how you feel about it. Okay. You might want to be careful. I want the fbi and department of Homeland Security to tell me we have no actual intelligence based on research and billions we spend on our spy satellites that say they can back up the threat. At a practical level, sony probably wanted to show the film but the exhibitors, amc, regal they said no were not showing the film in our theaters because they have their lawyers and their insurance said you cant take the risk. The Movie Theater in roar, colorado where that horrible killing took place was sued many times over by the victims of those families. Thats a question of liability. Its also a human question. You dont want to be the theater operator who puts this movie on and have somebody killed. You know why sony wont stream it. The Cable Operators wont do it either because they are worried about the same thing. Post it online. Im serious. Apple tv wont do it, tivo wont do it. They are talking about netflix maybe doing it but i have not heard when a netflix has to say about it. Post it on youtube. Is this a real threat . Otherwise we wouldnt go to the real threat. What about american sniper. Surely people say it gloves an american killer. Im sure hes getting threats. Do they shut that movie down. Isis level a threats against american sniper. This is a slippery slope. I think youre under estimating how big a breach of security this was already. How frightening it is. So you let them win. Youre not seeing the North Koreans, look at the satellite pictures at night over the world. The North Koreans cant even keep their lights on at night. Do we really think North Koreans can hit Movie Theaters across america . We didnt think the North Koreans and if they do are the chinese going to tell us we cant go in and invade north korea and turn it into a turnip field . Look, weve had this Major Industrial espionage hacking whatever you want to call it one of the biggest that i can remember. The government, nobody has been able to say who did it, how it was done, bring these information justice, none of that has happened. I agree with you joe, i think the idea of cowering in the corner is a terrible idea. But until we can tell the world we figured out how this happen next story. Do you believe that the North Koreans were able to pull this off . Not by themselves. I dont believe so. Isnt that more disturbing. You look at the satellite pictures. South korea at night has lights. North korea does not. Im serious. They cant keep a power grid running let alone hack into sony. They didnt do this but we dont know who did and thats scary. More scary than the federal government assuring us the north koreanthis. Im talking about turnip fields. I dont think they have technology to plant turnip theres. Youre backing up my point. Thats sweet of you. These are the people we fear. I fear the part we dont know. Theres a larger issue involved here because of what has happened and we dont know how it has happened and we dont know for sure who did it. We assume north korea did it with assistance from an outside force. What happens with the empowerment factor in play. They got the reaction they did. What happens when they dont like an editorial in the New York Times and hacks into the New York Times. In terms of the theaters pulling out at this point, i certainly wouldnt blame them. Watch them with George Clooney in aris theater room. You guys will be fine. One more story here. In your lazy boys. The dow had its big jegest day three years on thursday soaring more than 400 points. They felt that on main street too. Oh, wait no they didnt. How annoying is that. The surge extended a market rally into a second day after a wednesday announcement by the fed that hikes in Interest Rates arent on the immediate horizon. Wow. But Oil Prices Continue to drop and after a brief respite from the recent plunge brent crude dropped below 60. For more on this lets go to come to cnbc. The u. S. Economy is growing at a moderate pace but the Federal Reserve came out and said they will keep whatever they need to do in place to make sure that the economy keeps growing and because of that you got traders all over wall street saying hey you know what . We got a seasonally strong time for the market for stocks and a fed that will accommodate whatever we need to do to keep this economy going. You have a nice bull run for stocks. Whats happening with the overall market were 200 points away on the dow from a record high again. This is all happening despite falling oil prices. The real question is whether or not these Oil Prices Keep falling and whether the economy can keep going and thats a big deal at the end of the year. Thank you so much. Can i ask willie a question. Why does mika hate George Clooney. Its easy for him to say that. Why doesnt he go work at a Movie Theater. Its like cuomo. Ahha. You going to argue where George Clooney goes on vacation. Its pretty funny. I think his opinion about whether or not theaters are concerned about a Security Threat is really just not necessary. Im sure its very nice he does the greatest Jerry Weintraub impersonation i ever seen. A very talented man. Why do you hate. Still ahead, were going to have some fun on friday. I am very upset if it wasnt the friday before christmas. Comedian and actress Sherri Shepherd joins us and then steve madden will be here. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. The daily news wants to save our horses and im with the daily news. We need horses in the park, right . Its christmas. The momentum is going the other way, i think. The de blasio possibition. I like him. Why does he hate horse sos much. Lets take a look at the moaning papers. I think you have that wrong too. He hates horses. Hes going kill them and eat them. Three women were involved in a brawl over a crying baby. Women on a recent air china flight. According to reports two women complained to the childs mother after the babys cries interrupted their sleep. Thats so mean. The women exchanged harsh words before it escalated into a fist fight and one had her head slammed into the overhead storage bin. The flight had landed in hong kong, the plane was met by local police. Let me just tell you i cant stand it when people are mean about crying babies. Its not like you can control a crying baby. You make it worse the mother gets nervous and the baby cries more. Nobody loves having crying babies sitting next to you. But you feel sorry for the mom or the dad with the crying baby and try to help. Thats someone who has never had kids before. If youre the parents on the other end all you want is for that baby to stop crying. Be nice to parents who have crying babies. You were a baby once too. Seriously ask them how you can help out. Im dead serious. We used to take our babies into the lavatory. Theres things you can do. Mika, my kids never cried in public. All four of them never cried in public. I gave them a