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MSNBCW Morning Joe April 8, 2016 10:00:00

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With us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle. Donny deutsch is with us, how did he do . Representing the he brewic community, ted cruz in a matzo factory is like me being here, doesnt fit. Youre here by marriage because we have to but we all kind of go ugh. Former Communications Director for president george w. Bush, nicolle wallace. How did he do . He did great. [ laughter ] lot of meds today. Thats what the gentile says. In washington Pulitzer Prize winning columnist in, associate editor of the Washington Post, how did he do . Bless his heart. So this great panel along with will he and me, joe will be here in a bit, hes taking a morning joe sabbatical which is about five minutes. Did he get up at 5 20 instead of 4 10. He was trying to swipe his metro card. I think hes on the subway trying to use tokens. Jam them in that slot. The debate over which democratic president ial candidate is qualified to hold the oval office continued all day yesterday. All day. Hillary clinton said her opponents remarks about her qualifications are silly and former president bill clinton agreed. He came right out and said he doesnt think youre qualified to be president. Well, that will be up to the voters of new york and the other states that will be passing judgment in the weeks ahead. I think its kind of a silly statement but hes free to say whatever he chooses. Is he qualified to be president . Heres what i believe. I believe that voters will be looking at both of us, but i will take Bernie Sanders over donald trump or ted cruz any time. So silly, about what he said . Whats your response . Is she more qualified than he is . He s he qualified . The most qualified person to run for president in our primary since ive been voting. More than i was in 92. Do you think hes qualified . No. I think that i will abide by what hillary said today. We shouldnt be distracted by this. We need to talk about these people and their future. Im for what hillary said. All right, i should clarify, it continued all day because people kept asking about it all day. Spoken like a true husband whatever hillary said. I think its such a silly argument in that the whole premise maybe its a silly question at this point but we keep asking it, i dont know why. Theoretically, when youre banging the other candidate, the implication is theyre not qualified. In reality the whole premise is that person is not qualified, i am. The simple pivot is not as qualified but theoretically youre constantly saying that person is doing this, stupid about this, wrong about that implication theyre not qualified for this job. But the answer to the question to cut it off is, is he qualified to be president . Yes, he is, but im more qualified. Next question. Its interesting. I thought the Democratic Party had a decent chance at contrasting itself against the republican contest. It went away yesterday. Well, i mean theres still pretty big contrast. Well, but in terms that they hadnt begun comparing comparing hand size. They hadnt begun tearing each other down with general election like attacks and i think that began yesterday. And what Bernie Sanders said two nights about about hillary clinton on the stage when he said shes not qualified and here are the five reasons is a clip that can be used in the general election over and over and over again. Even the most progressive democrats dont believe theyre still talking about the issues. By the way, the voice of reason is senator sanders spouse, she weighed in saying her husband as moved on. It almost like she was saying move on, everybody. Willing everybody. Yes, including us from using the term unqualified while the senator himself said he would continue to fight back when attacked. You made a comment about Hillary Clinton being unqualified for the office of president. Is that something you regret saying . Well, it was said after she and her Campaign Said that i was unqualified. I didnt hear her say you were unqualified. I heard her fail to say you were qualified but she didnt say unqualified. Well, look, the issue is after we won in wisconsin and that was our sixth victory in seven caucuses and primaries i think the Clinton Campaign has been getting a little bit nervous and i think they have been getting more negative and i hope very much that we can have an issueoriented campaign. There are a lot of of problems that the middleclass and working class in this country are facing. We should be talking about that. But if people attack me and distort my record, we will respond. Now, i think they should all go back to the issues and deal with that and Bernie Bernie has moved on. He has said, okay, lets not use the word unqualified, lets use the word contrast. Why do i think im better than her . They would take the country in very Different Directions, even though it seems like theyre on the same page and thats what the secretarys campaign keeps on saying. Theyre on the same page. Theyre not on the same page. And that we will be asking the candidate about when he comes on the show in the next hour. Actually, not going to be asking him about the qualified unqualified. Anyone who does can go because im kind of its a silly little fight. But the issues, we can go deep on with him. Especially the daily news article. Im going reask those questions because he came up short. I was surprised. I love the excitement around his message i thought the big part was okay, j. P. Morgan has 102 billion in asset, 190,000 employees, they won, how do we break this thing up . No answer. Thats interesting. And we have the honor of having him on and we will ask him real questions instead of you paid him to come on . Thats the way it works. No, but when you say his name he raises money. Its amazing. Very different than the way other candidates raise money. That was a joke. But the daily news article is actually how you got into that line of questioning about whether or not hes qualified to be president so its good to reask and viewers can judge for themselves. You heard bernie and jane sanders trying to tamp down this unqualified talk yesterday but the Sanders Campaign is still out beating this drum. Jeff weeaver is the campaign manager. Listen to what he had to say about Hillary Clinton. I think if you look at her campaign, her campaign is funded by millions and millions of dollars from wall street and other special interests. Shes really made a deal with the devil and we know the selfwants his money in the end. Thats the kind of campaign shes running. Shes supported these terrible trade deals which have devastated American Manufacturing in this country. Shes supported the war in iraq. She continues to have a very, very hawkish Foreign Policy which has led to the rise and expansion of isis throughout the middle east. Thats the opposite of tamping this down. He said shes made a deal with the devil taking wall street money. And the devil gets his money. Basically implying shell be in the pocket of wall street when shes president of the United States. And finishing that riff off by saying in effect her policies, along with those of president obama by implication, created isis. Thats a pretty big charge. The other aspect of it that should be troubling to both elements of the campaign, sander Sanders Campaign or Clinton Campaign. If you say anything or ask a question that has a negative connotation about Bernie Sanders you come under assault from the bernie bros, from the Sanders Campaign. Well, welcome to life as a republican. If you say anything about donald trump or ted cruz you got all their haters on you before the words are out of your mouth. It makes you wonder how many of Bernie Sanders people, his followers, if he were not to get the nomination, would be okay with sliding over to support Hillary Clinton . The same dynamic on the republican side. Whats so interesting to me this week is how much this race now mirrors the intensity of whats happening on the republican side. Totally agree. And how the whole cycle is set apart on the right and the left with the tension between the outsider, the animator, the heart candidate in Bernie Sanders and trump and the establishment figure, the head candidate in cruz and clinton. And clinton not fighting back a lot and saying i would take senator sanders over ted cruz any day. Theres a fine line she has to walk. She cant lose those that Sanders Movement is huge. You talk about taking gloves off against sanders. The media has been very soft on him. I think youre right. Basically on some level we missed it. We want anymore there. Nobody wanted to give hillary a coronation six months ago. But conscious or subconsciously they kept him you mean they want him in the race. They want him in the race because theres no story. But up until now given how drastic some of his views are, hes gotten a light swing. Gene, what i saw is us is missing the Bernie Sanders story us meaning the media, the movement kind of missing it and maybe correcting it and going easy on him. Its surprising we are this far down the line and a New York Daily News article shows so many gaping holes that we need to be looking at with him. I dont think it was purposeful. But i definitely feel im guilty of that. I feel like we completely missed the story and then were like, oh, oh, weve got to cover him. I totally agree because he wasnt covered for a long time. He was Bernie Sanders, he was running for president , give me a break. And it turned out i think a lot of people in the media sort of woke up one day and Bernie Sanders is the guy for a huge chunk of the Democratic Party, including young voters and hes a phenomenon and then people started paying attention to what he was saying. I think frankly it is somewhat embarrassing that he had not been grilled in the way that the New York Daily News did about the specifics of what do you do on day one . Not that all the questioning from the daily news was perfect, right . Because they kept asking about the fed and this and that. But he shouldnt he have had a detailed dayone plan . How are we going to break up these banks and tear them into little pieces. Gene, substitute the name trump for Bernie Sanders and youve got two swings and misses by the media. Or cruz, cruz hasnt been vetted, either. Absolutely. Heres paul krugman in the New York Times. Its one thing for the Bernie Sanders campaign to point to Hillary Clintons wall street connections, which are real, although the question should be whether they have distorted her positions, but recent attacks on mrs. Clinton as a tool of the fossil fuel industry are just plain dishonest and speak of a campaign that has lost its ethical moorings. Then there was wednesdays rant about how mrs. Clinton is not qualified to be president. It does seem like he is now getting his time in the sun, close to it, and well see how he does. Hes been winning. Go ahead, willie. Lets talk about bill clintons exchange on the trail yesterday. Incredible. A Heated Exchange with protesters of the black lives Matter Movement during an event in philadelphia. The interaction spanned more than 10 minutes. 42nd president fighting back against criticism of his 1994 crime bill. Heres the thing, i like protesters but the ones that wont let you answer are afraid of the truth. Thats simple. Be afraid. Be very, very afraid. Heres what happened. Lets just tell the whole story. When i became president the headlines in the newspapers were full now, wait a minute, i listened to you, you listen to me. You know what else you dont want to hear . Because of that bill we had a 25 year low in crime, a 33 low in the murder rate and listen to this, because of that and the background check law we had a 46year low in the deaths of people by gun violence and who do you think those lives that mattered . Whose lives were saved that mattered . [ cheers and applause ] secretary clinton herself also was targeted by the protesters with one holding up a sign that reads black youth are not superpredators. In the 1990s when secretary clinton was defending her husband bills record she went on record using that term to refer to gang members, a choice of words she has since said she regrets. I dont know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13yearold kids hopped up on crack and sent them out on to the street to murder other africanamerican children. Maybe you thought they were good citizens. She didnt. [ cheers and applause ] she didnt. You are defending the people who killed the lives you say matter. Just for a little more context, it was in 1994 that Hillary Clinton was talking about the crime bill, defending it and said we have to bring these superpredators, talking about young people in gangs, she said we have to bring them to heel. Thats some phraseology that she said she regretted . Whats wrong with those words, by the way . Well, in todays times i think theyre pretty charged so it was interesting with all the tension between police and the communities across the country. This is the problem with politics today. Bill clinton was so right in what he said there in his rejoinder to the crowd. My first the first time i heard the word crack and knew what crack was was in 1986 at the desire Housing Project in new orleans, louisiana. And for a period of nearly ten years large elements of the black community and major American Cities were decimated by crack usage and crack sales. Oakland, california, where i grew up same time, same stuff. Gene robinson, i think it would be one thing if in 1994 she had called all black kbroout sup youth superpredators but shes talking specifically about people in gangs so to people who might be watching this today are saying i dont get why thats offensive. I think one thing weve learned from the primary season so far is that Hillary Clinton has a lot of really durable support among africanamericans. And so i think this is politically not terribly important Going Forward. I think black voters will be energized if shes the nominee, theyre going to come out and vote for her. And we can do the whole show on africanamerican communities and policing and various and various views of how you do that and how much that is needed but i dont think she has a lot to worry about and i think if the clintons have to go all the way to sister soldja they will, right . Lets flip over the the republican side. John kasich and ted cruz spent yesterday campaigning across new york state. Kasich met in the bronx by a crush of cameras from the city press corps as he took a bite out of a deli sandwich. Across the city, ted cruz so much eating. [ laughter ] ted cruz got a spirited welcome in brooklyn, speaking to members of the Jewish Community there. He visited a model matzo kitchen, rolling out doug with thr doug with threeyearolds. He did his best to sing along with the group but he and governor spent the day making the case they are the only ones who are viable general election candidates. [ laughter ] its just ridiculous. Lets drink in in for a minute. Just stop. Governor kasich krasted cruzs new york views comment on the trail and his super pac went even further on the air. We love new york values, its a great place. I love new york. What does it mean . New york means innovation, neighborhoods, great food, great people. It wbr id wbr10698 means everything. New yorkers arent stupid, ted. After we were hit, we rallied, rebuilt, but remembered. We tell it like it is. Thats who we are. b so when you smear new york values in iowa for votes, we remember that, too. Now you come here and conveniently say you love new york. Forget about it, ted. What do we do if we come to september or october and its trump versus hillary . And i would say, wbrid wbr10998 look, the first thing we would do is weep. But there is something even more fundamental. We prevent that from happening. Meanwhile, some new yorkers are less than thrilled to have senator cruz in their backyard. Congressman peter king has never been shy, yesterday no exception. Let me say one thing about the new york primary. Any new yorker who even thinks of voting for ted cruz oh, boy, here we go. Really. Heres a guy who refused to sign on to the 9 11 Health Care Act for the cops and firemen. Heres a guy who talks about new york values, were tough and to have some guy like ted cruz with cowboy boots Walking Around criticizing us, i hope he gets the Cold Shoulder and other things from every

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